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    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] New to List (researching Beatty)
    2. Hi Mardi, Anglican, eh? That fits with Fermanagh. Do you know who settled in Fermanagh? The border clans who were fleeing from King James in the early 1600s. I know these days we think of Scots as Presbyterian but it was a regional religion in the 1600s. Most of the highland clans were still Catholic. The borders were always place of its own. Many borders were Catholic. In fact the borders were the stronghold of English Catholicism for a very long time. Many of the 'big families' were Catholic. In any case there were very few churches -- the parish system only existed on paper and in towns. So when they settled in Fermanagh the border Scots became Anglican. Or Catholic. Fermanagh even today has many more Anglicans than Presbyterians. How to learn more? I think if you check the webpages we got some sites: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle . LDS has its free guide (www.familysearch.org). If you type www.google.com and then Irish genealogy you'll come up with lots of very good information. Try the Fianna site for example (google for it), and PRONI has huge amounts of info. I always have to google for it but I think that's www.proni.gov.uk . There's a great book about the folk culture of Fermanagh, "Passing the Time in Ballymenone" by Henry Glassie, I think it is. linda merle -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mardi Carlson" <cmc@hutchtel.net> > Linda > I did leave out religion shame on me. They were Anglican (Church of > England) in Canada. In one census in Canada one of the family members was > listed as Methodist. > > Do you have a good or even great online site to learn about Irish Genealogy? > I understand very little, but have picked up on a few things from listening > on the lists. > > Mardi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] New to List (researching Beatty) > > > > Hi Mardi and welcome to the list! > > > > You have traced your ancestors back to a specific place in Ireland and > > apparently you are wanting to know what to do next??? > > > > Probably two things. One is to continue gathering info about them in > > Canada in order to develop a good profile. Just like on TV when looking > > for a killer the more you know the more likely you are to bag your man. > > > > The second thing to do is learn how to do Irish genealogy. That's really > > critical because Ireland's records are very different from other > > countries. > > > > You might also grab a book or so to learn how to leverage your Scottish > > connection too. Scotland does have good records and by using the censuses > > and civil registration (as well as OPRs) you can locate other family > > members who might have additional info on the family in Ireland. > > > > I have two lines of Beatties, one on each side. My father's were Scottish > > border Beatties who headed up the east coast of Scotland in the early > > 1600s and eventually settled in Polmont in the 1830s. My mother's side > > entered the Irish army in the mid 1600s from Ayrshire and settled in > > Ireland due to the Williamite settlement. There were two brothers who were > > officers in King WIlliam's army. The one is well documented in Egle's PA > > genealogies. He settled in County Down where he had 15 children, > > populating the planet with Beatties. Mine was in Antrim. We left in 1729, > > settling in New York area where there were Ulster Scots. > > > > However if you check "The Scots-Irish" you'll see that native Beatties > > were given small estates in Cavan (I think it was) at the start of the > > public plantation. They lost these by the Williamite Settlement. These > > ones were Catholic. Religion is key here and one of the things you've not > > shared. > > > > You can get a fair amount of local history in Fermanagh, depending on > > where they were, that might give you an idea where yours originated: as > > native Irish or Scots settlers. > > > > You can locate Irish county resources in various books like Ryan's "Irish > > Records", but a check of the Tithe Applotment index on CD will give you a > > free two second idea of where in Fermanagh that Beatties lived and also > > give you an idea of how common or uncommon the name "James Beattie" was. > > > > Linda Merle > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "Mardi Carlson" > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> I am new to list. I am looking for any info on these people or how to > >> find > >> the info on theses People. Any help appreciated. > >> > >> James Beatty b. c. 1786 Co. Fermanagh never married in Ireland, He was a > >> school teacher in Ireland before he immigrated to New Brunswick Canada in > >> 1818 and married in 1820's. > >> > >> Brothers: > >> William Beatty married Lucy they immigrated to New Brunswick Canada in > >> 1816. > >> > >> John Beatty had a son named Benjamin. Location unknown. > >> > >> Benjamin Beatty possible he died near Portpatrick Scotland before 1852. > >> > >> Sisters: > >> Esther Beatty married a Mayne and living in Portpatrick in 1852. > >> > >> Esther Beatty married a Brown and was living near Brooksborough, Co. > >> Fermanagh in 1852. > >> > >> My gggrandfather William would be a son of one of James brothers, as he > >> was his nephew. William b. c.1803 in Ireland married Margaret and had 4 > >> kids namely Robert, James, Thomas and John before emigrating from Ireland > >> to > >> New Brunswick, Canada in 1836. > >> > >> In 1836 two other Beatty's immigrated to New Brunswick a Catherine Beatty > >> and a Thomas Jasper Beatty. Thomas Jasper and William settled in the same > >> area Kings County, NB and both attended the same church. I am under the > >> assumption that they must of been relatives. Thomas Jasper was b. 1803 in > >> Ireland. I do not know if they were brothers or cousins, or if it was > >> just > >> a big coincedence. But hightly doubt the later. > >> > >> Any Suggestions on what to try next??? > >> Mardi > >> > > > > > > >

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