Sorry to pick nits. Not English Government, but British King ;-). Scots are extremely allergic to the misuse of the world English. Having said that I agree it is sloppy. I'm not sure of the History in a number of places. Jesuits and the 1641? The 56 years between Wentworth and the Boyne is rather skipped over, and in many ways that was then the SI got their "soul" as a people on the move because they felt threatened (and were they right) Don't know enough about the Colonial period to comment Edward Andrews -----Original Message----- From: Brian Orr [mailto:brian@orrnamestudy.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:50 AM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Web site - www.irishgenealogy.com Hi folks Just had a look at the page Linda kindly pointed to . It seems a bit sloppy to me. The Montgomery and Hamilton settlements in Co Down and Antrim were in 1606, the first settlers were there in 1607 ie BEFORE the Ulster Plantation which was from 1610 - 1630. The Plantation was a quite separate event sponsored by the English Government and did not include Antrim and Down because they were already settled; indeed it was the apparent success of these two Scots settlers that convinced them to go ahead. I could witter on but shant :)) Brian Orr