Thanks to Charles and Dr. Andrew for giving us some summer reading assignments. I will attempt to find the book "Civil War and Restoration in the Three Stuart Kingdoms: TheC areer of Randal >MacDonnell, Marquis of Antrim", by Jane Ohlmeyer as he is truly one of the most amazing characters of the period. >"Three Stuart >Kingdoms", rather than being the "English civil war" I've also seen it called the "British Civil War". The author of that book said he could find no reason for it to happen in England. You had to get Scotland and Ireland involved to see its causes. >> Christopher Hill, but they are ages old - kind of 40 years Hmm...about time for us genealogists to discover them then!! Thanks for the book suggestions too and may I second Christopher Hill's books?? At amazon: The World Turned Upside Down : Radical Ideas During the English Revolution (Penguin History) by Christopher Hill (Paperback) Century of Revolution, 1603-1714 (Norton Library History of England) by Christopher Hill (Paperback) He also wrote a history of the English Bible which is amazing. I just lent my copy to my mother so I don't have it here. And mucho thanks for the Scottish book! If I ever get done moving I'll have some GOOD reading to do. > In any case there is a good Bibliography. This is a great thing, esp. for genealogists, because it can lead us to stuff. Tom Reilly who wrote the 'new' history of Cromwell in Ireland (which I packed and can't find) used contempary sources for his book -- so it is packed with all kinds of goodies he used to debunk the 'received history' of Cromwell in Ireland. >> On Ireland, Haven't a clue. There has been so much new writing about Irish >> History in the past 30 years that there is good stuff out there. >> For 1641 there is Ulster 1641 Aspects of the Rising: Ed MacCuarta Belfast >> 1993. ISBN 0-85389-591-0. This too has got a good Bibliography. It does and it's a favorite of mine. Another good one on Ireland is Elliott's book "The Catholics of Ulster". Check out your local Borders or amazon. It really covers the history of all the people in Ulster as we're all really one people, as she shows. The book is in the tradition of Christopher Hill -- providing us with a look at the lives of the people, not the kings. It transforms your picture of Ulster and helps you to understand howcum we're one people. This was the conclusion that I came to but Elliott's a 'real scholar' with FAR better documentation than I got. AND a huge bibliography to check to find out what exists that you can also utilize in your genealogical quest. I'm related to Blue Dick Culmer, of Kent, whom Laude called the most extreme person in the country. NOt sure if he meant Kent or England. He broke the stained glass at Canterbury, on order of Parliament, sparking a riot. In this case the rioters were in the right. Though dead, he's got webpages: http://www.digiserve.com/peter/bdick1.htm http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/war/cost3.html Interesting local character!! Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net