O.K. Linda & Brian - that does it! As suggested in a private communication I am breakig down and posting the following: The Scots keep the Sabbath and anything else they can lay their hands on. (Scotch is a drink) The Irish don't know what they want but are willing to fight for it. The Welsh are always on their knees - either digging coal or praying. And the English! The English are a self-made race ............ thus saving God a LOT of embarressment Ray Kinkaid Ontario (A Canadian of Scottish parentage and Ulster grandparent)