The new thread on Irish Protestants in Ontario is interesting and illuminating on the large migration from all parts of Ireland, not just Ulster. Bruce S. Elliott, Irish Migrants in the Canadas (Montreal: McGill University Press, 1988), 2nd edition, 2004, $32.95 US and Canada, tells this story, primarily through case studies of Protestant emigrants from North Tipperary to Ontario. This is an outstanding book, that I considered groundbreaking when I reviewed it in 1988 (and my review is still quoted in the publisher's blurb). The author is a trained genealogist who drew on genealogical records of many Ontario families. Donald Harmen Akenson, The Irish in Ontario, also from McGill, is another good book on the topic. Akenson has researched and written widely on both Ulster and rural Ontario. Richard

Just a bit more information about Irish Protestants in Ontario, this from my own background: My grandfather's grandparents left northern Ireland in 1840, immediately after marrying, to go to Canada. Here is what I know: Samuel Hart (b. abt. 1815, "north of Ireland, near Belfast, in Ulster", poss. Co. Cavan, m. Rebecca Kelly from Co. Armagh March 15, 1840.) Rebecca was the youngest of four girls: Anna Bella Kelly (b. about 1800) Jane Kelly Mary Kelly Rebecca Kelly (1) Anna Bella Kelly m. John Caughey (b. Callyshiel, Co. Armagh, d. November 25, 1871, m. Anna Bella Kelly January 17, 1828 in Clare Presbyterian Church (Co. Armagh?), Ireland.) (2) Jane Kelly m. David Jeffrey October 28, 1831, in the same church. (3) Mary Kelly m. James McHenry April 23, 1839, in the same church. (4) Rebecca Kelly m. Samuel Hart March 15, 1840, and they left "immediately" for Canada. I do not know what ship they traveled on, nor where they landed in Canada. I do know they soon were living in Bishop's Mills, Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Ontario, Canada. Rebecca Kelly's father was named James Kelly, but I do not know anything about his siblings or his parents or where they lived. It is possible that James Kelly had a brother John. James Kelly died between October 28, 1831 and April 23, 1839, as he was present for his first two daughter's weddings, but not for the last two. It is possible that Rebecca Kelly's mother was Jane ? but that is not definite. I would love to know more about Samuel Hart (b. Ireland) and also about the parents of Rebecca Kelly (b. Ireland), as well as previous generations in Ireland. All of that is likely to be in Co. Cavan (family memories) or possible Co. Armagh (since Rebecca Kelly's family church was there.) Last summer, my husband and I traveled to Bishop's Mills, Ontario, Canada, and we found the log cabin that Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly built and lived in. It is being lived in and loved by a family who is working on making it look like it did when it was built. It still does look exactly like that -- I mean they are restoring it where needed. Townspeople knew it as the Hart cabin. We also found the Minish cabin (see more info below if you are interested.) Following is the line from Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly who married in Ireland. If it is more information than what you are interested in, just skip it! In Canada, Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly Hart had 4 children: James Hart b. 1843 Martha Jane Hart b. 1844 Samuel Hart, Jr. Maurice Hart, b. December 25, 1850 Maurice Hart married a girl from the farm next door in Bishop's Mills: Catherine Minish, poss. b. 1845, as her gravestone says "died March 26, 1911, at the age of 66 years." We also found the Minish cabin, sure enough, visible from the Hart cabin's back yard. Maurice Hart and Catherine Minish Hart had nine children, all born in Canada: (1) Samuel Hart (b. February 11, 1868, m. Mary Ellen Snowdon, had one child Ruby Elizabeth Hart. Mary Ellen Snowdon died at the age of 97.) (2) David Lorenzo Hart (b. March 28, 1870 d. March 12, 1908) (3) Margaret Hart (b. December 20, 1872. Never married, d. February 12, 1961) (4) Ella Hart (b. July 13, 1875, m. ? Gibson, had two children Mansell Gibson and Bernice Gibson, died September 03, 1959) (5) Charles Merrill Hart (b. July 7, 1877, d. September 08, 1961) (6) Eli Maurice (Morris) Hart (b. March 25, 1879, m. Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975) August 02, 1905, had two children Merrill Bliss Hart and Lauren Bliss Hart, d. (7) Agnys ("Nancy") Hart (b. October 12, 1881, d. 1923) (8) Elizabeth Ruby Hart (b. November 09, 1883 d. April 17, 1884 at the age of 2 years and 5 months) (9) Archibald "Albert" Arthur Hart (b. January 24, 1885, d. December 16, 1953) Eli Maurice Hart moved to Hartford, Connecticut, lived in a boarding house, and married the daughter of the owner of the boarding house. Her name was Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975). They are my grandparents. They had two sons. (1) Merrill Bliss Hart (b. August 19, 1920, m. Norma Grace Thomas (b. 1915, d. 1972), had two children named Merrill and Lauren, and d. 1969. Merrill Bliss Hart and Norma Grace Thomas Hart had two children: (a) Thomas George Hart, b. 1936, m. Inger from Sweden, lives in Sweden, has three children: Stephen, Birgitta, and Karin, also grandchildren) (b) Margaret Ruth Hart, b. March 18, 1943, had four children: William, Merrill, Thomas, James), d. August 29, 1989) (2) Lauren Watson Hart (changed his name at the age of 21 to Lauren Bliss Hart) (b. November 20, 1914, m. Ruth Margaret Kelley [this Kelley has an e] (b. November 5, 1916, had three children named Karen, Steven, and Jill), d. February 01, 1992) Lauren Bliss Hart and Ruth Margaret Hart had three children: (a) Karen Ruth Hart (that's me! b. October 01, 1940, m. Gerald Jordan Reese September 02, 1962, had two children Michael Todd Reese and Brian Hart Reese, divorced 1975, remarried to Cushman Dodge Anthony 1976) (b) Steven Merrill Hart (b. February 07, 1942, m. Carlotta Bethea, no children) (c) Mary Jill Hart, known as Jill Hart (b. November 24, 1945, m. Thomas Johnson, had two children Tammy and Carrie) Karen Ruth Hart Reese and Gerald Jordan Reese had two children: (a) Michael Todd Reese (b. October 13, 1964, lives in Hawaii, not married) (b) Brian Hart Reese (b. September 5, 1965), lives in Virginia with long-time girlfriend, has one child Jennifer Myita Hart Reese (b. August 26, 1999) That's all for now. I would greatly appreciate any information on the first named people in this story: Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly, who married in Ireland. Karen Hart Anthony Falmouth, Maine USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <RKMacmaster@aol.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever > The new thread on Irish Protestants in Ontario is interesting and > illuminating on the large migration from all parts of Ireland, not just > Ulster. > > Bruce S. Elliott, Irish Migrants in the Canadas (Montreal: McGill > University > Press, 1988), 2nd edition, 2004, $32.95 US and Canada, tells this story, > primarily through case studies of Protestant emigrants from North > Tipperary to > Ontario. This is an outstanding book, that I considered groundbreaking > when I > reviewed it in 1988 (and my review is still quoted in the publisher's > blurb). > The author is a trained genealogist who drew on genealogical records of > many > Ontario families. > > Donald Harmen Akenson, The Irish in Ontario, also from McGill, is another > good book on the topic. Akenson has researched and written widely on both > Ulster > and rural Ontario. > > Richard > > >