Hi Walt, If the father had a skilled trade, again, most likely they were from east Ulster. As for sources, you can check the usual sources for Irish genealogy (off our website), and consult Ryan "Irish Records". There's a huge amount of stuff you can search as well as a lot of strategies you can employ. Far more than we can put in an email. So I or someone here could name something and it wouldn't pan out. You really need to learn about the basic sources for your time period in Ireland. ALL of them and how they are used. For that a book or course is needed. SInce you have the maiden name of the mother and suggest they were married in Ireland, Civil Registration is the first thing to check. The indexes are widely available through LDS as are films of the actual records. I suggest that you do more research in the USA. If you've been here long then you've seen me refer people to www.genealogy.com/university.html which has courses (free) in migration research. There are sources you can use in the USA that might nail down the location of origin for you. Such as naturalization records, tombstones, obits, etc. There's a zillion McK's in Ireland. To figure out which are yours you need clues. For clues, read the above course and gather all the clues you can in the USA as you'll need them to do Irish genealogy. I have packed away a good book on Irish immigration to the USA. It explains that more Irish left from Liverpool than left from ALL of Ireland. If you visit the UK and Ireland, you'll discover the place is small. You can drive in a car from Louth fo Donegal in a couple hours. You can drive from the west coast of Ireland (Donegal) to Belfast in a few more. IT's small. People had legs and they moved about quite well on them. You don't provide enough info for anyone to guess how they might have moved about. Then you'd need to check to see what trains, etc, were about in your timeframe. The sweet point of this list is more the 17th century than the late 19th. WIthout any info re their economic status, seriously, we'd have to use a tarot deck to get a bead on their method of travel. There are lots of small ports on the coast of Ireland and while many have fallen into disuse today, many were still very active in the 1890s for both crossing the Irish sea and traveling up and down the coast of Ireland. Best of luck!!! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "WaltIrish1" <WaltIrish1@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:43:15 -0400 >G'day All , > Hope these few words find things going well. Could anyone >be so kind as to give an opinion. Any help is just great. > > My first 2 McKenzie ancestors per above Subj. most likely >resided in Ulster, probably Antrim/Derry area (Ballymoney). Ship >passenger info* is as follows : > >Name Year Departure Arrival Ship Origin/Residence >John 1880 1) Queenstown, New York, Algeria Ireland (Origin) > Cork, Ire > 2) Liverpool, Eng USA > >Eliz. 1895 1) Not Indicated Boston, Gallia Ballymoney, Ire > 2) Liverpool, Eng MA, USA (Residence) > > What is the likely way they traveled (boat, buggy etc.) from Ulster to all the way >south to Queenstown in those days ? > Is it more likely that they were from one of the Ballymomey's in Cork or Wexford >etc.and is why they sailed from Queenstown ? > Is another port from Eng more likely than Liverpool if they resided in Ulster ? > > Trying to save ($300 each search), I need help deciding whether >I hire a prof. to search Prost. & Cath. church records 1st for Ballymoney in >Antrim or Cork/Wexford ? > > Indicating any info to me via email would be great. If there is no info, >perhaps one could indicate other sources that might have info or related data. >Your kindness, consideration, time and effort//help is greatly appreciated. >Good luck and all the best with your own genealogy family search. > > TIA with kind regards , > Grandpa Walt-Irish McKenzie, Sr. > Central NJ Shore - Boston Area, MA - USAmerica > 1973-Present 1938-1972 > >---------------------------------------- >* Other supporting data . . . US records (census, b., m., d., obits, cemetery, >church, registers, land, probate, naturalization etc.) only list Ireland as pob, >residence etc. Only ship passenger records for the 2 emigrating ancestors >indicate more specific place names that yields some leads e.g. Ballymoney, Ire >residence and Queenstown, Ire port of departure. Daniel McKenzie b.c. 1815 >Ire & wife Margaret Miller b. Ire (m. c. 1840 or 46) had 2 known children >Elizabeth b.c. June 1841or47 Ire and John b.c. Aug. 1848 Ire both from 1900 >US census. There are a dozen Ballymoney's in Ire and based on all I know, >especially ethnicity (Prost.-Presbyt.) & religion (Catholic-2 ancestors upon >arriving US), its highly likely to be either Ballymoney, Antrim (& adjacent Derry) >or Ballymoney, Cork or Wexford (or Munster), probably Cork. > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 10/25/2005 > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net