Hi Linda, Thanks again for your great input. My brick-wall is Ire origin of Daniel McKenzie b.c. 1815. John not in US 1880 census but in 1900 he listed as b. 8/1848 Ire with 1st papers (Pa) filed. I have search for naturl. docu. for ten years and can not even come up with the Pa's to compare/duplicate info with other records. 1900 census list John came to US 1872. Ship passg. record below has John arrived in Quebec 7/1871. Only found Canada records is John's ship passg. John probably walk over the border to US since I can't find any border crossing or E.Can. to NE passg. records etc. John d. 1902 & all my Ire ancestors US vitals etc. records just list Ire as origin. Only Eliz. passg. record gave Ballymoney (12 in Ire) as Ire residence which strongly suggest Antrim ? Any further insight ? Your valuable help (& grand humor) is always so great to receive ! Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt McKENZIE, Sr." <WaltIrish@comcast.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] McKENZIE - Ire,Eng,Scot,US - 1871to1907 > Greeting All , > My first 2 Irish male ancestors that came to America > in their early 20's . . . John 1871-72 via Quebec & Geo 1907 via NYC. > Both sets of parents were b. Ire as was John b. 1848. Geo was b. 1887 > Eng. Geo lived in Yorkshire, No.Eng and sailed from Glasgow. John > sailed from Glasgow while his sister Eliz. sailed to Amer. 1895 via > Queenstown, Cork, Ire to Liverpool, Eng and then to Boston, US. All > the ship info matches well for John & Geo (b. year , farmer etc,) except > for nationality of Scotch. > I'm pretty sure these are my correct ancestors. I suspect > that either 1) agent just assumed and wrote down Scotch for McKenzie > or 2) it was less of a problem at the time to give Scotch not Irish to sail > etc. > Does anyone with similar immigrat. info have other > experience and/or explanation(s) ? Or was there a more specific reason > one would give Scotch not Irish ? TIA . . . all the best , Walt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 10/11/2005

Dear Walt, Here is what Camac has to say about the McKinneys of Derrykeighan in his book (Pub. 1911?) on the history of that Parish. Derrykeighan is a rural parish in North Antrim and is about 5 miles (8Km) north east of Ballymoney town. I have searched for the McKinney gravestone at Derrykeighan cemetery without success. Norman "It is worthy of note that neither a M'Kinney or Chestnut now own an acre of land in Carnaff. The last of the M'Kinneys to hold a farm here was Samuel, who died in 1882, a man of a superior education, but of indolent habits, and a most accurate land surveyor. The tradition among the M'Kinneys is that several brothers came from Inverness early in the seventeenth century. Two settled in the Derrykeighan district, one at Feigh, Dunseverick, and one at Sheeans, Armoy. The name has still been variously pronounced or spelled M'Kinney, M'Elhinney, M'Kenzie, and Kinney. There is an armorial stone in Ballintoy belonging to the Dunseverick family, whilst a plot of ground at the west wall of Derrykeighan churchyard is the family sepulchre of many M'Kinneys, about whose kinship there can be no doubt. The oldest date on any stone belonging to this family here is 1742."

Norman , Great new info ! Thanks very much. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "N.E.Parkes" <N.E.Parkes@btinternet.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] McKENZIE - Ire,Eng,Scot,US - 1871to1907 > Dear Walt, > > Here is what Camac has to say about the McKinneys of Derrykeighan in his > book (Pub. 1911?) on the history of that Parish. Derrykeighan is a rural > parish in North Antrim and is about 5 miles (8Km) north east of Ballymoney > town. I have searched for the McKinney gravestone at Derrykeighan cemetery > without success. > > Norman > > "It is worthy of note that neither a M'Kinney or Chestnut now own an acre > of land in Carnaff. The last of the M'Kinneys to hold a farm here was > Samuel, who died in 1882, a man of a superior education, but of indolent > habits, and a most accurate land surveyor. The tradition among the M'Kinneys > is that several brothers came from Inverness early in the seventeenth > century. Two settled in the Derrykeighan district, one at Feigh, > Dunseverick, and one at Sheeans, Armoy. The name has still been variously > pronounced or spelled M'Kinney, M'Elhinney, M'Kenzie, and Kinney. There is > an armorial stone in Ballintoy belonging to the Dunseverick family, whilst a > plot of ground at the west wall of Derrykeighan churchyard is the family > sepulchre of many M'Kinneys, about whose kinship there can be no doubt. The > oldest date on any stone belonging to this family here is 1742." > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.0/134 - Release Date: 10/14/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.0/134 - Release Date: 10/14/2005