Hi Cindy and Carl, It's amazing what you can do these days on the Internet. I was working on a large project for a client that traced a lot of family groups (trying to figure out which one our client's ancstor 'came from')....So okay you have them selling in Franklin Co, PA in 1802...where'd they go? Off to ancestry. I find them in the 1810 census in Ohio....2 minutes later. Repeat this a lot! It's amazing. WOrk that would take you years and years to do you can do in minutes. >all the New England publications in the local libraries that you listed in >your message. You may find 'the basics' like Hanna and Bolton. You can also get these and a number of others on a CD sold at www.genealogy.com . It has all the ones you need to start. You can find a huge amount of local resources in www.rootsweb.com and www.usgenweb.com. You also should join NEHGS -- their website has a lot of stuff on it, on line. I also think you get get to Heritage Quest through NEHGS. Otherwise let us knoew -- there are other orgs you can join. Heritage Quest is a huge collection of colonial and early USA records records. OH is it grand. You just save the pages to your computer. However if you want to produce a decent family history, avoid going crazy later when you try to 'check again' and being cursed by descendents, be sure to note where you found the image: the book, the author, etc, and the repository (Heritage Quest). I can send you a file to do it in. Also I have learned to suck down to my computer any websites I find good stuff on because next week the thing could be gone. Maybe the owner died -- who knows. Often they do go away and so does their stuff. So save it to your computer. Organizing all this is really a challenge.... >Realizing you have advised us that there is not much interest/articles about >Ulster Scots in NE.... is anyone aware of articles shedding light on >'why/how' the U Scots went to N England, the state of Maine to be specific?? Yup! Bolton wrote "the book". He tells the story. The first set arrived in 1781 on five ships. We only know the names of four....I think this is on our website in more detail (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle ). They were invited by Cotton Mather. The Ulster Presbyterian clergy, Calvinists like the English Puritans, corresponded extensively. Unfortunately Cotton failed to research whether a bunch of Ulster Scots would be welcome. They were not. They were culturally very different: very low class the Puritans with unfamiliar habits and terrible accents. They also arrived indigent so they had to be supported through the winter. WOW did those Puritans hate supporting people. Then the religious problems began. Presbyterians were indeed different, more culturally than in terms of dogma. Most importantly their church structure was different. They would not conform to the Puritan model. However many more came before the real hero of the story, William Penn, who was off saving the lives of many Protestants in Europe who were dying in huge numbers, and lugging them to Pennsylvania. He himself had done time, quite literally, in a Cork prison. He had men around him who were Ulstermen, but Quaker. So he invited them. So before long, the majority of the Ulster Scots were going to Pennsylvania or the other middle colonies where they could practice their religion in peace and freedom. The Ulstermen that did come headed for the frontiers at first spring melt where they eventually settled towns of their own on the advancing perimeter of Anglo America. SOme groups went directly to areas that would become Maine, etc, rather than going to Boston first. There were several schemes, as usual, where someone bought a lot plot and lured over friends and neighbors, or tried to. Casco Bay comes to mind. Back then it wasn't Maine. It was Massachusetts. There were some very bitter times over who would govern. Eventually the aggressive Puritans of Mass forced out the businessmen and attempted to impose their theocracy on the frontiers, but not always with success. However often you can find records in Mass. Not sure what dates you are talking about regardin the shanhainng. No one was shanghaied to Canada till after the 1750s. No one was shanghaied to settle there as largely settlement was discouraged. People were shanghaied in the 1650s in Ireland and sent over as slaves to Virginia and other southern colonies as well as the West Indies. This was a massive, massive problem. Men were sometimes shanghaied into the British army, but then again, I'd have to ask you what the timeframe was. People did not leave Ireland because they were being religiously oppressed. during the times of real repression, they stayed. They left due to bad economic times and rising rents. If you read the books mentioned as well as Leyburn "The Scotch Irish", you'll learn more. The clues you found sound very very incouraging. Unfortunately it is very unlikely you will ever find a record in Ulster of him in 1720. You can probably find the surname about anywhere in Ulster. >A town history in Chester, Maine, had a paragraph stating, >"Rosetta Tash brought the dishes to Chester that her father and mother >brought from Ireland." This is a later generation but probably from the >same NH Tash line. So that is another >reference connecting them to Ireland Eh??? If you are shanghaied you do not get time to go home, pack up your wife and dishes. Rosetta's parents were not shanhaied. If they emigrated with dishes they were relatively well off people, probalby able to pay their passage and lug over dishes. However 90 percent or so of people lived on estates in Ireland. They rented little tiny farms or they were black smiths and carpenters who also grew their own food. Or they had a larger farm of 20 acres. Or they were servants in the "Big House". Or lived in a small tenant in a town. Not likely in the town in 1720. In any case they do't tend to appear in records. We got land record but they didn't own land. We do have muster lists and freemen lists, etc. But how will you distinguish your man from others with the same names? There are ways to proceed but as you can, it's not easy. A new book just written is "Researching Scots-Irish ANcestors" by William J. Roulston. It id's records in the 1700s and focuses on Protestants. One of the challenges for us is that the vast majority of Irish are Catholic. We are a minority. Almost everything written or taught on Irish genealogy is for the majority: Catholics, as well as the gentry and titled families. This is because you must do research on ther landlord to find records. NOthing is written on Presbyterians, Methodists, etc. This book does focus on Protestants. However you can also find Ryan "Irish Records" and Grentham's book and find out what can be got easily. It's there, all you gotta do is read it. Moving on from there, a massive amount of Irish material is in Salt Lake. You must learn to use the catalog to order the film -- much of what is in the National Archives in Dublin and at least 70 plus film from Belfast. It's a heck of a lot easier to do this kind of resarch from the USA. WHen y ou get a film, you can spend a month with it. Instead of 1 minute in a crowded facility in Ireland on your only vacation to your homeland. Ultimately though, you will need to do DNA studies because the records have never existed that will tell us where in Ulster our ancestors came from. They are getting cheaper all the time. > >Thank you very much for any help you can give me on finding where this >Tash/McIntosh family emigrated from, when, etc. Donno! The name's not in Bell "Book of Ulster Surnames" though someone else check....my eyes are crossed. 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Do we appreciate Linda Merle??? You BET we do!! I have been a member only a few days of this Sc-Ir List and I am boggle-eyed with the volumes of info Linda shares with so many on an individual basis. I can see already that whether I think a 'message subject' has anything to do with me or not... it puts me wayyy farther along to read as many of her responses as I can. Has everyone noticed that also?! Linda, I thank you from the bottom of my Scotch-Irish cockles (or does 'cockles' a term the Brits use? <grin> Thanks again, Linda. Cindy McIntire (looking for Sc-Ir Tash for the time being) Johnson