Hi John and others, This list was formed many years ago for one purpose: to help us find the origins of ancestors in Ulster. It's helped me a lot and I think we've all helped one another. The topics you are studying are good ones and they help give you a sense of the history. Without a notion of the history, you will miss clues or mis interpret them. Hopefully you are studying 'real history' and not the foggy stuff meant to entertain. But this stuff here is off topic: >(2) Pattersons/Patersons in Cunningham (near Ayrshire) Join a Scottish list to do research in Scotland. Not here. These are also off topic: >(3) The British Kingdoms of Strathclyde, Rheged and Gododdin > >(4) And Cumbric (a Brythonic language related to Welsh) and an early >language of "Cumbria" >Anyone interested in discussing / sharing information in these difficult >areas of research fel\el free to contact me directly. We can post >information that becomes interesting NOT HERE YOU DON'T. There's plenty of lists that would welcome it, but none of your explorations of these areas will help our genealogy. So you'll have to find some other lists (www.rootsweb.com) or start one yourself. It's not too painful to do so. Highly recommended. Let us know if you do. However Rootsweb says it's my job to keep us on track and that I will do. Especially, NO SCOTTISH POSTS. We've seen in the past that people have a very difficult time grasping one of the basic principles of genealogy: records are locale-based. Scotland is a different country from Ireland and doing genealogy there (I DO A LOT both personally and professionally) is DIFFERENT from research in Ireland (I do a lot there too, both ways). You must read different books, take different courses and lurk on different lists. NOT HERE. This is an Ulster centric list for researching Ulster and its diaspora. It's a topic that is difficult to get your arms around. Time to end this post. I want to remind members that off topic posts will not be tolerated. Linda Merle Scotch Irish Admin ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net