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    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] Book Review- CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland
    2. Alan
    3. Hugh H. Macartney wrote: > Having grown up in Ulster and lived in various areas I never heard the > word, "scundered". The expression is to "take a scunner" at something > you find loathsome or unpleasant. The same word is used in Scottish > dialect and is thought to derive from the Middle English word, "scurn" > meaning shrink or to shrink from. > Hugh Macartney Yes the same word. In large parts of Ulster it is scunnered and here in Tyrone there is a distinct d in the pronunciation giving scundered. A person can be a scunner or scunder but here it is also used "I am absolutely sundered". I have heard it is also used in parts of Canada alongside "reddding out" or "redding up the place" - cleaning up / tidying up > Alan wrote: > >> May 29, 2005 >> >> Biography: Carson by Geoffrey Lewis >> REVIEWED BY RUTH DUDLEY EDWARDS >> >> CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland >> by Geoffrey Lewis >> Hambledon and London £19.99 pp277 >> >> There is a timelessness about Northern Ireland. The Rev Ian Paisley, >> who has just succeeded David Trimble as the leading voice of Ulster >> unionism, >> epitomises a centuries-old tradition of roaring clergy who repel the >> British government as much as the southern Irish. A century ago, Arthur >> Balfour, the great >> Conservative statesman and Edward Carson's mentor, could no more abide >> Ulster Protestants than these days can the majority of new Labour. >> Peter Hain, the new secretary of state for Ulster, already looks like a >> chap who wishes he >> had stayed safely in his Tardis instead of straying into what sounds >> like the 17th century. >> >> Yet there have always been outsiders who saw the merits of these flinty, >> disciplined, straight-talking people, not least those Americans who >> recognise what they owe to the work ethic and raw courage of >> innumerable immigrant >> Presbyterian Ulster-Scots who fought valiantly on the frontiers and in >> the war of independence. Among those admirers closer to home were two >> romantics: >> Rudyard Kipling (who wrote elegiacally at the time of the home-rule >> controversy of >> the betrayal of loyal Ulster) and Carson. >> >> It is one of the many paradoxes of Carson's life that he was born and >> brought up in Dublin of Scottish and southern Anglo-Irish stock, made >> his career in the south and in London, yet became the greatest of all >> the heroes in the >> Ulster Protestant pantheon. An Irish patriot, he was passionately >> devoted to the Union. And although he hated the very idea of partition, >> he became >> indeed (as the book's subtitle emphasises) the driving force behind the >> division of Ireland. He is venerated by bigots such as Paisley, yet >> there was nothing >> sectarian about him. >> >> Full article at the link below....... >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2-534-1626735,00.html >> -- >> >> Faugh A Ballagh >> >> Lámh Dhearg Abú >> >> *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* >> Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in >> Ye hallion - you tearaway >> Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day >> Scundered - fed up >> >> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1 >> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>> >> -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

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