Linda, I think you have made yourself perfectly clear and those of us like myself, who have appreciated the work you have done on this list for several years now, do not need any more convincing that you are correct. So do not feel the need to respond or say anything further on the matter of what is and is not off list. It is your judgement and there are always grey areas but if the boundaries of genealogy are pushed too far then we all might as well start with a study of Adam and Eve. John should confine himself to his first topic: Early Ulster Plantation Settlers. Give him his due however, to be so strident and so easily offended, he must, like myself, be a true Scotch-Irishman. As for "Cumbric" - Ulster says No! Regards, Boyd

I agree with one of the list-members this afternoon that squabbles on this list can be more fun! Up to a point, that is. Linda, I have learned so much from you, especially, and this list, and among that was that my Scottish GGp who came to Co. Louth for 7 years do not apply to the specifications for this listbut you gave me suggestions on how to find the information I wanted. That I have no idea where my Day/Odea line was from and that the Heards who came from Co. Tyrone are hard to find (the ancestor my family used to qualify for DAR was in the past few years as being the wrong brother of the family---haven't been able to puzzle that out) and my Butlers were, according to family records, from Dublin . So, really I don't have much claim to this list except that I enjoy especially the discussions on the different religions, and some of the "color". I get a lot of pleasure from some of the messages----simply delete others. But, Linda, as much as I enjoy your information, your knowledge, you do come on a bit strong sometimes and disregard that sometimes the writer considers his question appropriate for the list whether you do or not. Instead of chewing out this particular writer, rudely all but crawling through the air and strangling him, couldn't you have simply offered him help to start a new Rootsweb list for the subjects he (and apparently others who spoke up) is interested in? You could then refer some of the messages you find inappropriate to his website and be rid of the problem without raising the writer's ire. The "problem" message then could just disappear. It would save your patience. You read the riot act to those whose understanding of the purpose differs from your interpretation and by doing so prolong the strife that you hope to avoid. He is correct that you asked for people to get more active and send more messages and then blew up when he did just that. I don't know if it was an old Irish, excuse me, Scotch-Irish, saying but my Scottish (who called themselves "Scotch") ancestors said often, "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar". But who wants flies? Mary Lander ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyd Gray" <boydgray26@utvinternet.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 12, 2005 05:02 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] No More on Britons and the Scotch-Irish > Linda, > > I think you have made yourself perfectly clear and those of us like myself, > who have appreciated the work you have done on this list for several years > now, do not need any more convincing that you are correct. So do not feel > the need to respond or say anything further on the matter of what is and is > not off list. > > It is your judgement and there are always grey areas but if the boundaries > of genealogy are pushed too far then we all might as well start with a study > of Adam and Eve. John should confine himself to his first topic: Early > Ulster Plantation Settlers. Give him his due however, to be so strident and > so easily offended, he must, like myself, be a true Scotch-Irishman. > > As for "Cumbric" - Ulster says No! > > Regards, > > Boyd >

WOW! Haven't seen a dust-up like this for quite a while -- really takes me back! Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyd Gray" <boydgray26@utvinternet.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] No More on Britons and the Scotch-Irish > Linda, > > I think you have made yourself perfectly clear and those of us like > myself, > who have appreciated the work you have done on this list for several years > now, do not need any more convincing that you are correct. So do not feel > the need to respond or say anything further on the matter of what is and > is > not off list. > > It is your judgement and there are always grey areas but if the boundaries > of genealogy are pushed too far then we all might as well start with a > study > of Adam and Eve. John should confine himself to his first topic: Early > Ulster Plantation Settlers. Give him his due however, to be so strident > and > so easily offended, he must, like myself, be a true Scotch-Irishman. > > As for "Cumbric" - Ulster says No! > > Regards, > > Boyd > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005