Thanks, Linda. My Irish Protestant (Presbyterian, we think) Ulster ancestors (my grandfather's grandparents) left Co. Cavan and Co. Armagh in 1820 and settled in, yes, Ontario, in a little farming town called Bishop's Mills, south of Ottawa. Its entire name is Bishop's Mills, Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Ontario, Canada. Their surname was Hart. There were others of the same ilk there; one other family into which one of mine married was Minish. Though my people apparently were not involved, it was the time of the digging of the Rideau Canal. That project attracted many Irish, and most of it was dug by "Irish." I don't know if those diggers were Catholic or Protestant; they came, I suppose, because it was known they could get work. So there's a bit of real info for you.... The most wonderful part of that tale is that, last summer, we visited the area, asked around, and were pointed toward the "Hart log cabin" and the "Minish log cabin." These were the homes built by my ancestors. We were told that they built something much smaller to live in for about one year while these more permanent structures were built. They were large, identical, and solid, and one is lived in and loved now by a young family who is refurbishing it. I was able to give that young couple a photo of Maurice Hart (born in Canada Dec. 25, 1840, died September 7, 1928, the son of the original settlers Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly Hart, ) and his next door neighbor and then wife Catherine Minish (b. approx. 1845, died March 26, 1911). Catherine Minish had grown up in their log cabin. A wonderful memory. Karen Hart Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com>; "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts > Hi Karen, > > To learn the history of Scotch Irish settlements in Canada you would need > to check with a history of Canada. I don't myself > know. > > The history of the settlement of Canada is very different from > the USA. Due to the black fly it was settled later. Partly too > due to the policy of the British of discouraging settlements. > > I know some people moved up there after the Revolution -- > they are called Loyalists. Some were of Ulster Scots origins. > A large set of books documenting loyalists has been burnt into a CD and is > on line at www.genealogy.com (to members). > > In addition to Protestant Irish from Ulster, Canada is the home of many, > many Irish Protestants from outside of Ulster. I did read a book on the > Irish of Ontario. Most of them were Methodists and NOT from Ulster. I > believe they largely settled > there in the early and mid 1800s. It has often been wondered > where the once large and now completely forgotten Protestant 'minority of > Ireland went. I believe they went to Ontario. > > Most Irish Protestants not in Ulster were not of Scottish > descent but of English, Welsh, Irish, French, Flemish and German descent. > (The same holds true for many Ulster > Protestants, esp. those in counties settled by the English > during the Plantation). > > The American Methodist church was founded by Irish Protestants > of German descent who migrated in 1708 -- before the mass > migration of Ulster Scots even began. > > Have you tried www.cyndislist.com ?? It would have a large > section on Canada. > > Linda Merle > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:46:31 -0500 > >>Linda you say about Hanna "It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc." What about >>known >>Scots-Irish settlements in Canada. Any ideas of how to learn about those? >>Karen >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> >>To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:22 PM >>Subject: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts >> >> >>> Hi folk, >>> >>> Perhaps we can help one another by suggesting books, etc, >>> to read for Christmas that can help us understand our >>> ancestors. >>> >>> In the USA one is Hanna "The Scotch-Irish". THis book is >>> in most libraries and on CD. Parts are very dated but parts >>> are excellent. It includes primary material from the >>> settlement of Ulster so you can read this and form your >>> own opinions. It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>> settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc. >>> It's on line at Ancestry. Maybe for free !! (Check "Scots-Irish"). >>> >>> another one is the social history by Leyburn "The Scotch Irish". THis >>> book >>> is more more modern. It's chuck full of >>> good info. >>> >>> An excellent american reference book is "The Source". >>> >>> The definitive work on Irish and Scotch Irish genealogy is >>> Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". >>> >>> There is Ryan "Irish Records". >>> >>> Billy Kennedy's books are very good, such as "Faith and >>> Freedom: The Scots-Irish in America". >>> >>> You can find these at www.amazon.com, www.genealogical.com, >>> and www.ancestry.com . And 2nd hand book shops! Try >>> www.froogle.com . >>> >>> ANyone else have suggestions?? >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net > > > > > >