Hi Linda and Karen, I just wanted to remind researchers to look in the archives of the Canadian Lists for some information. You can either search for a surname or place-name, or something like "Scots Irish" or "Scotch Irish." I would imagine that many of them first arrived in Nova Scotia which was one of the first provinces to be settled, I think. (New Brunswick annexed off of it around 1784.) And, don't forget the origin of the name, Nova Scotia ! My KERR and HENDERSON ancestors left Ireland around 1823 and went to Quebec Province ! Some of their descendants continue to live in Argenteuil County and Compton County, etc. If you do a Google search for "Canada History Timeline," you should find at least one web site offering a timeline for Canada's history, and that will show you the initial names for the first areas in Canada to be settled; e.g., "Upper Canada" and "Lower Canada." If you go to the archives of the Quebec List, you should find those web sites posted - possibly during 2004. www.rootsweb.com Mailing List INDEX FYI: My KIDDER ancestor left southern NH in 1783 to go to Canada. He was about 18 years old, so probably traveled with the families of his friends ! He went to Nova Scotia, but a year later the part he settled in became New Brunswick ! My RICE ancestor and my WILKINS ancestor both fought in the Rev. War and then moved to northern Maine, both ~1775 - 1780. So, you can't consider them Loyalists, but .. they lived among them ! If I'm remembering correctly, Rev. War soldiers were rewarded with land in "Maine" for their services ! And, "many" of the families went back and forth over the Canadian border with some frequency ! (NB / ME, NS / ME) And, many Loyalists left New England to head up to Canada, and their towns are still near the Quebec / VT and NH and NY borders ! (I also know of Loyalists who left L.I., NY, and NJ for Nova Scotia !) Betty (near Lowell, MA) (It's an interesting topic -- the Loyalists !) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts > Hi Karen, > > To learn the history of Scotch Irish settlements in Canada you would need > to check with a history of Canada. I don't myself > know. > > The history of the settlement of Canada is very different from > the USA. Due to the black fly it was settled later. Partly too > due to the policy of the British of discouraging settlements. > > I know some people moved up there after the Revolution -- > they are called Loyalists. Some were of Ulster Scots origins. > A large set of books documenting loyalists has been burnt into a CD and is > on line at www.genealogy.com (to members). > > In addition to Protestant Irish from Ulster, Canada is the home of many, > many Irish Protestants from outside of Ulster. I did read a book on the > Irish of Ontario. Most of them were Methodists and NOT from Ulster. I > believe they largely settled > there in the early and mid 1800s. It has often been wondered > where the once large and now completely forgotten Protestant 'minority of > Ireland went. I believe they went to Ontario. > > Most Irish Protestants not in Ulster were not of Scottish > descent but of English, Welsh, Irish, French, Flemish and German descent. > (The same holds true for many Ulster > Protestants, esp. those in counties settled by the English > during the Plantation). > > The American Methodist church was founded by Irish Protestants > of German descent who migrated in 1708 -- before the mass > migration of Ulster Scots even began. > > Have you tried www.cyndislist.com ?? It would have a large > section on Canada. > > Linda Merle > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:46:31 -0500 > >>Linda you say about Hanna "It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc." What about >>known >>Scots-Irish settlements in Canada. Any ideas of how to learn about those? >>Karen >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> >>To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:22 PM >>Subject: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts >> >> >>> Hi folk, >>> >>> Perhaps we can help one another by suggesting books, etc, >>> to read for Christmas that can help us understand our >>> ancestors. >>> >>> In the USA one is Hanna "The Scotch-Irish". THis book is >>> in most libraries and on CD. Parts are very dated but parts >>> are excellent. It includes primary material from the >>> settlement of Ulster so you can read this and form your >>> own opinions. It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>> settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc. >>> It's on line at Ancestry. Maybe for free !! (Check "Scots-Irish"). >>> >>> another one is the social history by Leyburn "The Scotch Irish". THis >>> book >>> is more more modern. It's chuck full of >>> good info. >>> >>> An excellent american reference book is "The Source". >>> >>> The definitive work on Irish and Scotch Irish genealogy is >>> Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". >>> >>> There is Ryan "Irish Records". >>> >>> Billy Kennedy's books are very good, such as "Faith and >>> Freedom: The Scots-Irish in America". >>> >>> You can find these at www.amazon.com, www.genealogical.com, >>> and www.ancestry.com . And 2nd hand book shops! Try >>> www.froogle.com . >>> >>> ANyone else have suggestions?? >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net > > > > > > ______________________________

My Nathaniel Barnes and his wife Annis, two sons of four, and their four daughters migrated from Harpswell, to Annapolis county, Nova Scotia in about 1760. Any one recognize that name in Nova Scotia? Chute, Young, Phillips, Lynam, Milbury, are some of the descendant families. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts > Hi Linda and Karen, > > I just wanted to remind researchers to look in the archives of the > Canadian Lists for some information. You can either search for a > surname or place-name, or something like "Scots Irish" or "Scotch Irish." > > I would imagine that many of them first arrived in Nova Scotia which was > one of the first provinces to be settled, I think. (New Brunswick > annexed off of it around 1784.) And, don't forget the origin of the > name, Nova Scotia ! > > My KERR and HENDERSON ancestors left Ireland around 1823 and went to > Quebec Province ! Some of their descendants continue to live in > Argenteuil County and Compton County, etc. > > If you do a Google search for "Canada History Timeline," you should > find at least one web site offering a timeline for Canada's history, and > that will show you the initial names for the first areas in Canada to be > settled; e.g., "Upper Canada" and "Lower Canada." > > If you go to the archives of the Quebec List, you should find those web > sites posted - possibly during 2004. > > www.rootsweb.com > Mailing List > INDEX > > FYI: My KIDDER ancestor left southern NH in 1783 to go to Canada. He > was about 18 years old, so probably traveled with the families of his > friends ! He went to Nova Scotia, but a year later the part he settled > in became New Brunswick ! > > My RICE ancestor and my WILKINS ancestor both fought in the Rev. War and > then moved to northern Maine, both ~1775 - 1780. So, you can't consider > them Loyalists, but .. they lived among them ! If I'm remembering > correctly, Rev. War soldiers were rewarded with land in "Maine" for their > services ! And, "many" of the families went back and forth over the > Canadian border with some frequency ! (NB / ME, NS / ME) > > And, many Loyalists left New England to head up to Canada, and their towns > are still near the Quebec / VT and NH and NY borders ! > > (I also know of Loyalists who left L.I., NY, and NJ for Nova Scotia !) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > (It's an interesting topic -- the Loyalists !) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts > > >> Hi Karen, >> >> To learn the history of Scotch Irish settlements in Canada you would need >> to check with a history of Canada. I don't myself >> know. >> >> The history of the settlement of Canada is very different from >> the USA. Due to the black fly it was settled later. Partly too >> due to the policy of the British of discouraging settlements. >> >> I know some people moved up there after the Revolution -- >> they are called Loyalists. Some were of Ulster Scots origins. >> A large set of books documenting loyalists has been burnt into a CD and >> is on line at www.genealogy.com (to members). >> >> In addition to Protestant Irish from Ulster, Canada is the home of many, >> many Irish Protestants from outside of Ulster. I did read a book on the >> Irish of Ontario. Most of them were Methodists and NOT from Ulster. I >> believe they largely settled >> there in the early and mid 1800s. It has often been wondered >> where the once large and now completely forgotten Protestant 'minority of >> Ireland went. I believe they went to Ontario. >> >> Most Irish Protestants not in Ulster were not of Scottish >> descent but of English, Welsh, Irish, French, Flemish and German descent. >> (The same holds true for many Ulster >> Protestants, esp. those in counties settled by the English >> during the Plantation). >> >> The American Methodist church was founded by Irish Protestants >> of German descent who migrated in 1708 -- before the mass >> migration of Ulster Scots even began. >> >> Have you tried www.cyndislist.com ?? It would have a large >> section on Canada. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> >> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:46:31 -0500 >> >>>Linda you say about Hanna "It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>>settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc." What about >>>known >>>Scots-Irish settlements in Canada. Any ideas of how to learn about >>>those? >>>Karen >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> >>>To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:22 PM >>>Subject: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish Christmas Gifts >>> >>> >>>> Hi folk, >>>> >>>> Perhaps we can help one another by suggesting books, etc, >>>> to read for Christmas that can help us understand our >>>> ancestors. >>>> >>>> In the USA one is Hanna "The Scotch-Irish". THis book is >>>> in most libraries and on CD. Parts are very dated but parts >>>> are excellent. It includes primary material from the >>>> settlement of Ulster so you can read this and form your >>>> own opinions. It also has lists of all known Scotch Irish >>>> settlements in colonial America and their ministers, etc. >>>> It's on line at Ancestry. Maybe for free !! (Check "Scots-Irish"). >>>> >>>> another one is the social history by Leyburn "The Scotch Irish". THis >>>> book >>>> is more more modern. It's chuck full of >>>> good info. >>>> >>>> An excellent american reference book is "The Source". >>>> >>>> The definitive work on Irish and Scotch Irish genealogy is >>>> Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". >>>> >>>> There is Ryan "Irish Records". >>>> >>>> Billy Kennedy's books are very good, such as "Faith and >>>> Freedom: The Scots-Irish in America". >>>> >>>> You can find these at www.amazon.com, www.genealogical.com, >>>> and www.ancestry.com . And 2nd hand book shops! Try >>>> www.froogle.com . >>>> >>>> ANyone else have suggestions?? >>>> >>>> Linda Merle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________ > > ______________________________