I would also recommend being imaginative with respect to spelling. For example, I have a couple of McILVEENs in the late 1600s. Who knows. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada THE SILVER BOWL: http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html FAMILY TREE: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl