Sarah, thanks for the advice. I looked at some of the census records, and the pages before and after . People in the same vicinity... Have a couple of possibilities. Amanda the daughter of Jefferson worked in a couple of homes, since she was unmarried. As far as I know she remained unmarried. I have been hunting for possible brothers for Jefferson, thinking maybe they may have a way to trace the family back further. since Amanda's son was named Jordan Winfield McCleary , I hunted for men with those names. What I found was a Jordan creek and Winfield, I think was a county. Did find a Jordan Sims close by but nothing to really get excited about. Plan to hunt some more. Thanks again, Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:42 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] McClary/McCleary of NIR and early 1700's America > ya know Ellie one thing not mentioned yet in helping your search would be > to > look at the cencus at the time of his birth or before of the soundex > for the surname JEFFERSON.......the father could have been a neighbor like > you thought who she worked for.....she could have given the boy that name > as > first name..if it isnt in any other record for the McClearys family line > it > could be the father???? Just an idea. Many families used the surnames of > mothers and grandmothers for given names....Just an idea. > Sarah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellie Dowling" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:01 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] McClary/McCleary of NIR and early 1700's America > > >> LOL!!! I loved the line about being an expert on McCleary's in America! >> I had just about figured out I was going to have to look at every >> McCleary >> and then make the best guess as to what family Jefferson came out >> of...Thanks for the advice.. I have looked at some of the McCleary names. >> I >> actually looked at some of them before I found Jefferson, but how do you >> connect them when you are missing a generation of records. All I could >> think to do is try to see if some first names ran generationally. Then I >> could make a fair guess that they were of the same line.. but that really >> doesn't prove anything. I never tried to Google any names yet. I'll >> give >> it a try. It would be the most wonderful gift to give my mother -in-law >> if >> I could find her ancestors. I went to an Irish free site that had lots >> of >> records, but I didn't find one McCleary. Scotland had McClearys listed >> under the covering of clan Cameron. Wish I had a better memory at this >> stage of the game. I am still trying to get a handle on the timings of >> the >> Scotts Irish upheavals. They seemed to come in waves to America, in the >> 1700's and early 1800's . I have been cramming so much in this 56 year >> old >> brain so fast, not all of it is staying. or staying in the right order. >> At >> least I'm exercising my brain. Thanks a bunch, . Ellie >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:34 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [S-I] McClary/McCleary of NIR and early 1700's America >> >>> Ellie, >>> Linda is right in regards to your research needs and area of focus. I >>> wanted to just let you know you that your Scotch-Irish focus may not be >>> too >>> far of the beaten path. >>> There are 4 documented McClary families in early 1700's in New England >>> 1718- Thomas McClary (b.1706) from Londonderry, NIR to Windham, New >>> Hampshire brother of >>> 1718- Daniel McCleary (b. 1708 in Maghera, Londonderry, Ireland) of >>> Methuen, Mass. died same 1788. >>> 1727- Andrew McClary from Londonderry, NIR to Nottingham, NH >>> 1751- David McClary from Ireland, living Boston, Mass. died Bedford, >>> NH >>> A John McCleary and Alexander MaClery are in Boston, Mass 1730 to 1739 >>> >>> There are online Pennsylvania records that may give you access to >>> McClary >>> family info. Google is also a major FREE source. try McClary and >>> Lancaster >>> and you'll find the easy ones quickly. >>> DON'T spend a lot of time reading every hit. Just get enough to find >>> proof the family was in the right place and see if you get lucky and >>> someone >>> mentions a specific family going south to VA and NC. I have the exact >>> same >>> problem in VT in 1804. Bastard or abandoned son living with Mom but who >>> has >>> no father. I did the same surname searching. So... I can state his >>> grandfather with about 95% proof, but can't connect to the five sons. I >>> may never >>> find it but I know it's there :) A miracle DNA match may be my only >>> hope. >>> So you got the right ethnic group on face value. Follow Linda's ideas >>> and some general searching like above and you may hit paydirt. If not >>> you'll >>> be an expert on early McClary's in America :) >>> >>> Colin Brooks >>> The 1718 Project >>> >>> In a message dated 3/30/2010 12:09:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> Hi Linda, thanks for taking so much time to answer my, I don't know >>> what >>> to >>> do comment. I should have let you know why I have a snag in the >>> McCleary >>> family search. I have traced them back to North Carolina during the >>> civil >>> war and even one tax list after, and then other census from then till >>> now, >>> but my snag is I can't figure out how to go further back to tie the >>> McCleary >>> family elsewhere to the one in North Carolina. The North Carolina >>> county >>> courthouse where the McCleary family lived was bombed during the civil >>> war >>> and burnt down. all records lost, and then it burnt 3 more times... I >>> can >>> not seem to find who the father of Jefferson McCleary, also spelled >>> McClorry, and MCClary on different census papers. Not doing such a hot >>> job >>> of figuring out who his wife is either. she must have been dead by the >>> time >>> the records that have survived were taken. I did read a bit of a >>> history >>> book online that said a lot of Scotts that came to North Carolina >>> actually >>> came inland through Tennessee, but Jefferson lists he was born in North >>> Carolina. I have found records in other counties of McCleary or some >>> derivative thereof, but no one claims Jefferson on their family . I'm >>> stumped. I figured I would just suearch out every MCCleary etc I can >>> find >>> from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and I might get lucky and find >>> something. Right now it is guesswork. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> If I could only find that connection in the McCleary family from >>> Jefferson >>> on back. I found a Thomas Jefferson McCleary age 26 on an 1830 >>> Maryland >>> census... but my Jefferson was born in 1814, as per the 1860 census >>> that >>> lists him as age 46. It calls him McClorry on that one, but it's him. >>> The >>> batches of first names in the family tie together the various census >>> misspellings of the last name. I even found people that may have been >>> his >>> brothers or cousins, but haven't found them back further either, yet. >>> I >>> was hoping if I couldn't follow his trail, I could hit on it with >>> extended >>> family from the same area and census. The area I found them in was >>> Cool >>> Springs, Washington County, NorthCarolina, Post office Mackeys Ferry, >>> and >>> also Harrington County Div.2. dist. 1 N.C., and the northern district >>> 1850 >>> Census Rockeartto, County, N.C. or something like that, can't read it >>> very >>> good. If you have any idea how to look back farther I'm all ears....or >>> in >>> this case eyes since we are writing, not talking. LOL. >>> >>> There are some colonial ancestors on my husbands side as well, but none >>> on >>> mine.. the hardest part of waiting so long to start hunting is I forget >>> what >>> I've found and where I found it so quickly... I am trying to document >>> it >>> all >>> as I go along... but I have gone so many directions in such a short >>> time >>> I >>> have well nigh driven myself crazy!!!! In your business do you only >>> hunt >>> Scotch Irish, or do you hunt other countries too??? Well thanks >>> again... >>> Ellie >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message