Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how my great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many thanks, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and the land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his wife died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert WILSON Mary Widener --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen, It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology. You can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here: http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or 30 years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in family histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart that details the possible sources to find information about migration. You can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried treasures found in what clients of mine have sent. Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume, anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4 with her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a letter documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship. Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy, received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from the grave to the spiritual circle..... I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how my great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many thanks, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and the land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his wife died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert WILSON Mary Widener --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have this same problem. They came in 1840. No other info about from where in Ulster. I wonder what was happening in 1840 to come here??? Your info might help me thanks Linda-from Louise -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:56 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > Hi Karen, > > It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to > Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology. You > can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures > on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading > lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here: > http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm > > The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep > records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is > before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that > may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or 30 > years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and > none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in family > histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite > www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart > that details the possible sources to find information about migration. You > can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data > you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds > immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to > my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried > treasures found in what clients of mine have sent. > > Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may > have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume, > anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4 with > her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a letter > documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did > in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to > discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged > people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship. > Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back > another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy, > received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family > history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from the > grave to the spiritual circle..... > > I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has > been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how my > great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many > thanks, > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > > > My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. > Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and > the > land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his > wife > died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when > they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert > WILSON > Mary Widener > > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message