How does one pronounce "Taoiseach"? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > Hi Karen, > > It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to > Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology. You > can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures > on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading > lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here: > http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm > > The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep > records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is > before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that > may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or 30 > years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and > none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in family > histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite > www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart > that details the possible sources to find information about migration. You > can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data > you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds > immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to > my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried > treasures found in what clients of mine have sent. > > Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may > have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume, > anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4 with > her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a letter > documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did > in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to > discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged > people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship. > Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back > another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy, > received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family > history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from the > grave to the spiritual circle..... > > I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has > been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how my > great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many > thanks, > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > > > My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. > Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and > the > land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his > wife > died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when > they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert > WILSON > Mary Widener > > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
"Taoiseach" is pronounced Teeshuck. Cheers Sharon Belfast. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan How does one pronounce "Taoiseach"? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > Hi Karen, > > It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to > Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology. You > can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures > on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading > lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here: > http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm > > The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep > records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is > before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that > may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or 30 > years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and > none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in family > histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite > www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart > that details the possible sources to find information about migration. You > can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data > you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds > immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to > my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried > treasures found in what clients of mine have sent. > > Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may > have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume, > anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4 with > her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a letter > documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did > in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to > discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged > people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship. > Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back > another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy, > received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family > history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from the > grave to the spiritual circle..... > > I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has > been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how my > great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many > thanks, > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > > > > My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. > Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and > the > land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his > wife > died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when > they arrived. 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