Well, it was pre-starvation, I think, but certainly small (read, tiny) farmers were not wealthy at all, and I imagine times were quite hard. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Acheson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan >I have this same problem. They came in 1840. No other info about from where > in Ulster. I wonder what was happening in 1840 to come here??? Your info > might help me thanks Linda-from Louise > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:56 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan > >> Hi Karen, >> >> It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to >> Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology. >> You >> can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures >> on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading >> lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here: >> http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm >> >> The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep >> records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is >> before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that >> may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or >> 30 >> years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and >> none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in >> family >> histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite >> www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart >> that details the possible sources to find information about migration. >> You >> can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data >> you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds >> immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to >> my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried >> treasures found in what clients of mine have sent. >> >> Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may >> have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume, >> anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4 >> with >> her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a >> letter >> documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did >> in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to >> discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged >> people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship. >> Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back >> another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy, >> received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family >> history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from >> the >> grave to the spiritual circle..... >> >> I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has >> been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karen" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan >> >> Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how >> my >> great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many >> thanks, >> Karen >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Widener" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan >> >> >> >> My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast. >> Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and >> the >> land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his >> wife >> died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when >> they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert >> WILSON >> Mary Widener >> >> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message