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    1. Re: [S-I] Roman DNA
    2. In a message dated Tue, 25 May 2010 22:58:37 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] writes: >> The answer is probably "The Romans". They lugged all kinds of strange DNA to the Isles. Among them probably the ancestors of Thomas Jefferson. Not only did he **** his slaves but his Y chromo was K -- an African type. Supposedly another Roman transportee. We can safely blame all our DNA anomalies on them << Hello Linda and all! I don't mean to be picky, because your explanation is probably correct for most cases. But there might be more to the story, because the "Mediterranean" DNA haplogroups found in the British Isles (e.g., E, J and T on the Y-chromosome side, or David Gough's U5 on the mtDNA side) may in some instances have come from Jewish or Turkish traders who settled there during the Middle Ages. Or some of this mystery DNA may even have come from the Phoenicians, who are known to have visited the British Isles even before the Romans. All very intriguing! Also, just for the record, the Jefferson DNA is no longer denominated as the K haplogroup, because a couple of years ago the "authorities" magically rechristened the whole haplogroup as T -- for reasons that will probably forever remain unknown to us lay folk. Best regards, Jim Brown (James Armistead Brown, Jr.) Administrator, Brown DNA Study Administrator, Knox DNA Project

    05/26/2010 03:27:40
    1. Re: [S-I] Roman DNA
    2. Hi Jim, thanks for your insights. Starting one of these 'rogue threads' is one way to flush out some informed people, like yourself. Can you tell us about your Brown and Knox DNA studies and what insights they have produced, esp. in Ulster? Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:27:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Roman DNA In a message dated Tue, 25 May 2010 22:58:37 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] writes: >> The answer is probably "The Romans". They lugged all kinds of strange DNA to the Isles. Among them probably the ancestors of Thomas Jefferson. Not only did he **** his slaves but his Y chromo was K -- an African type. Supposedly another Roman transportee. We can safely blame all our DNA anomalies on them << Hello Linda and all! I don't mean to be picky, because your explanation is probably correct for most cases. But there might be more to the story, because the "Mediterranean" DNA haplogroups found in the British Isles (e.g., E, J and T on the Y-chromosome side, or David Gough's U5 on the mtDNA side) may in some instances have come from Jewish or Turkish traders who settled there during the Middle Ages. Or some of this mystery DNA may even have come from the Phoenicians, who are known to have visited the British Isles even before the Romans. All very intriguing! Also, just for the record, the Jefferson DNA is no longer denominated as the K haplogroup, because a couple of years ago the "authorities" magically rechristened the whole haplogroup as T -- for reasons that will probably forever remain unknown to us lay folk. Best regards, Jim Brown (James Armistead Brown, Jr.) Administrator, Brown DNA Study Administrator, Knox DNA Project ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/26/2010 08:30:40