Hi Joan, We knew already my mtDNA was J1c, due to free testing at Smurf, but now it is J1c3a, which so far has not told me much. My maternal maternal line is German (everyone in Pennsylvania has some German), and it apparently goes back to the mideast, where it entered Europe in neolithic times. 25% of Arab women have it. I'm a "Lost Tribe". Actually the DNA type originated long before Abraham so both Jews and Arabs have it (I have read). My dad is English. Frisian (northern german), maybe in Durham, England long before the Romans. For only another $89 I can know for sure...... I will have to check my Kel group to see what it is....Nope, K+k-. Do you want to run the list instead? Maybe it is more appropriate since my Kel is wrong <grin>. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:02:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] If you are reading this, you are on the Scotch Irish list Linda- I was tested more than a year ago with 23andme. My mtDNA subclade/Haplogroup is: H3a and I know that my straight maternal line came from Northern Ireland and identified as being Scotch-Irish. If you just got your results your data may not be in the Relative Finder yet--check back later if it isn't. I found that tool fun and have found provable cousins using the Relative Finder (including a 2nd cousin!). As for the medical data I came out at very high risk for Celiac (which can fit with my heritage). As for your comment about no Indians in the woodpile--23andme has a disclaimer on their Native American finder that beyond the 3rd great-grandparents the test is not likely to show any NA blood even it is there. I'm not saying it IS there, just that any genetic link to that heritage is probably too watered down to prove beyond the 3rd greats. One thing I did learn in my medical info was a very rare (for Northern Eupopeans--and for anyone really) non-ABO blood antigen. In the Kel group 92% of Europeans, 98% of Africans and an equally high percentage of all groups except for Arabs where the percentage is 75%, -- are K-/k+. I'm K+/k+. On the 23andme forums I put out a query to find others who are KEL K+/k+ AND who are 100% Northern European. All of the people who responded have Scotch-Irish heritage which is our single common denominator. Obviously MOST Scotch-Irish are not K+/k+ but the only other Northern Europeans are ARE K+/k+ that I could find (admittedly unscientific) DO have Scotch-Irish heritage. My understanding is that this implies that, although the mutation occurred among the Arabic population (in the Middle East) many years ago, someone (also a long time ago) spread this SNP to Scotland and eventually Northern Ireland where it is preserved in a small percentage of the population. Interesting stuff. Joan In a message dated 5/25/2010 12:54:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I got more details on my mitochondrial DNA. I am 100% European, largely northern. No Indians in the woodpile. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message