After many years of searching for my ancestors in the wrong counties, I have recently had reason to zero in on County Monaghan regarding my GG grandparents-Jeremiah Bell And Frances Elliott. I recently discovered that Frances Elliott was born in County Monaghan. I then did a search of the Tithe applotment books for Monaghan and found a Jaramiah Bell in 1824 living in Figevly townland, Donaghmoyne parish. In trying to figure out where to go from here, I have the following questions which I am hoping someone can help me with. 1. Figevly townland cannot be found in subsequent records. In Griffiths there is a Feegavla townland in Donaghmoyne. How do I verify that Figevly=Feegavla? 2. Does a townland map exist for Donaghmoyne Parish & where can I get a copy? 3. What protestant. church records exist for Donaghmoyne Parish for the period 1800-1840. The family was Methodist but I realize Methodist's often utilized the Church Of ireland. Any advice much appreciated. tanks, murray Bell
Murray I checked out Donaghmoyne parish in the Index to the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland. These Memoirs were the reports written on each parish during the Ordnance Survey in the 18030s. They were written to accompany the 6 " maps but were not published at the time. The Memoirs have been collected and comprise 40 volumes. The index points to the volume in which a parish is to be found. Sometimes individuals like teachers and ministers are mentioned in a parish memoir along with local gentry. The memoirs are inconsistent since they were written by different people but a memoir on a parish usually gives a list of individual townlands at that time, a description of their size, etc. A Memoir usually list all the churches and meeting houses in each parish, including when there were groups that were meeting in someone's house. In a recent lookup, I found a townland spelt 4 different ways in the same Memoir so two spellings for Feegavla is not very surprising. The index does not mention any Elliotts in Donaghmoyne. However, you will find the description of Donaghmoyne in Memoirs volume 40. From the references in the index, it appears that the Donaghmoyne memoir probably spans at least 30 pages. I own a couple of Memoirs volumes but not that one so I cannot look up the actual description. I was able to purchase my volumes online some years ago and I assume that you can still do that. Unfortunately, I don't remember now who I purchased them from but it should be simple enough to Google Memoirs of Ireland and track them down and order volume 40. Cheers John -----Original Message----- From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Murray Bell Sent: November-18-11 7:50 PM To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books After many years of searching for my ancestors in the wrong counties, I have recently had reason to zero in on County Monaghan regarding my GG grandparents-Jeremiah Bell And Frances Elliott. I recently discovered that Frances Elliott was born in County Monaghan. I then did a search of the Tithe applotment books for Monaghan and found a Jaramiah Bell in 1824 living in Figevly townland, Donaghmoyne parish. In trying to figure out where to go from here, I have the following questions which I am hoping someone can help me with. 1. Figevly townland cannot be found in subsequent records. In Griffiths there is a Feegavla townland in Donaghmoyne. How do I verify that Figevly=Feegavla? 2. Does a townland map exist for Donaghmoyne Parish & where can I get a copy? 3. What protestant. church records exist for Donaghmoyne Parish for the period 1800-1840. The family was Methodist but I realize Methodist's often utilized the Church Of ireland. Any advice much appreciated. tanks, murray Bell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Murray After I posted my last message I decided to check it out myself. Global Genealogy had the following listing for Volume 40. In my search, the price came up as $C 29.95. Counties of South Ulster, Ireland: Cavan, Leitrim, Louth, Monaghan and Sligo: BOOK - Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland: Volume 40 Counties of South Ulster, 1834-8, Cavan, Leitrim, Louth, Monaghan and Sligo Edited by Angélique Day and Patrick McWilliams This volume contains the Memoirs for five counties, comprising 34 parishes, in and along the southern reaches of the province of Ulster, a large area stretching from Sligo and Leitrim in the west and as far south as Louth in the east, with Cavan and Monaghan, particularly the latter, having the best coverage. Cavan is endowed with accounts of Cavan town, Cootehill, Kingscourt, and Stradone, with Monaghan possesses descriptions of Ballybay, Carrickmacross, Castleblayney, Clones, Drum, Emyvale, Glaslough, Newbliss, RockCorry, and Scotshouse. There are also details of Manorhamiltonin Leitrim, and Achonry, Aclare, Ballymote, Ballysadare, and general information about land-holdings in Sligo comprise the records for that county. Louth is represented by a set of interesting townland statistics for Ballymascanlan and Carlingford. Throughout this area the linen industry has been very significant, as witnessed by the many substantial houses of those involved in that trade, but the tide of prosperity had turned and agricultural economy was the mainstay of the region, as seen through its many livestock fairs. Ancient and early Christian remains, as well as fortifications and significant buildings of later centuries, are well documented and there are some particularly good accounts of the wildlife and geology in this typical drumlin landscape of South Ulster speckled with lakes. Altogether these Memoirs provide a unique insight into life and society in this area over one hundred and fifty years ago. The parishes covered in this volume are: Co. Cavan: Drumgoon, Drumloman, Drung, Enniskeen, Killdrumsherdan, Laragh; Co. Leitrim: Manorhamilton Union; Co. Louth: Ballymascanlan, Carlingford, Castletown; Co. Monaghan: Aghabog, Aughnamullen, Ballybay, Clontibret, Currin, Donagh, Donaghmoyne, Ematris, Errigal Truagh, Inniskeen, Killanny, Kilmore, Magheracloone, Magheross, Monaghan, Muckno, Tydavnet, Tyholland; Co. Sligo: Emlaghfad, Killoran and KIlcarnet, Kilmactigue. 212 pages; published 1998; 24 x 17cm; paperback; ISBN 085389 661 5 John -----Original Message----- From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Carey Sent: November-19-11 8:18 AM To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books Murray I checked out Donaghmoyne parish in the Index to the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland. These Memoirs were the reports written on each parish during the Ordnance Survey in the 18030s. They were written to accompany the 6 " maps but were not published at the time. The Memoirs have been collected and comprise 40 volumes. The index points to the volume in which a parish is to be found. Sometimes individuals like teachers and ministers are mentioned in a parish memoir along with local gentry. The memoirs are inconsistent since they were written by different people but a memoir on a parish usually gives a list of individual townlands at that time, a description of their size, etc. A Memoir usually list all the churches and meeting houses in each parish, including when there were groups that were meeting in someone's house. In a recent lookup, I found a townland spelt 4 different ways in the same Memoir so two spellings for Feegavla is not very surprising. The index does not mention any Elliotts in Donaghmoyne. However, you will find the description of Donaghmoyne in Memoirs volume 40. From the references in the index, it appears that the Donaghmoyne memoir probably spans at least 30 pages. I own a couple of Memoirs volumes but not that one so I cannot look up the actual description. I was able to purchase my volumes online some years ago and I assume that you can still do that. Unfortunately, I don't remember now who I purchased them from but it should be simple enough to Google Memoirs of Ireland and track them down and order volume 40. Cheers John -----Original Message----- From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Murray Bell Sent: November-18-11 7:50 PM To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books After many years of searching for my ancestors in the wrong counties, I have recently had reason to zero in on County Monaghan regarding my GG grandparents-Jeremiah Bell And Frances Elliott. I recently discovered that Frances Elliott was born in County Monaghan. I then did a search of the Tithe applotment books for Monaghan and found a Jaramiah Bell in 1824 living in Figevly townland, Donaghmoyne parish. In trying to figure out where to go from here, I have the following questions which I am hoping someone can help me with. 1. Figevly townland cannot be found in subsequent records. In Griffiths there is a Feegavla townland in Donaghmoyne. How do I verify that Figevly=Feegavla? 2. Does a townland map exist for Donaghmoyne Parish & where can I get a copy? 3. What protestant. church records exist for Donaghmoyne Parish for the period 1800-1840. The family was Methodist but I realize Methodist's often utilized the Church Of ireland. Any advice much appreciated. tanks, murray Bell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Thank you very much for the info. I will most likely spend the $30 bucks to purchase volume 40. I like that it also includes Cavan which is another county of interest to me. You mentioned that there were no Elliotts mentioned in Donaghmoyne index. Were there any Bells? again, thanks very much murray On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:17 AM, John Carey wrote: > Murray > > I checked out Donaghmoyne parish in the Index to the Ordnance Survey Memoirs > of Ireland. These Memoirs were the reports written on each parish during > the Ordnance Survey in the 18030s. They were written to accompany the 6 " > maps but were not published at the time. The Memoirs have been collected > and comprise 40 volumes. The index points to the volume in which a parish > is to be found. Sometimes individuals like teachers and ministers are > mentioned in a parish memoir along with local gentry. The memoirs are > inconsistent since they were written by different people but a memoir on a > parish usually gives a list of individual townlands at that time, a > description of their size, etc. A Memoir usually list all the churches and > meeting houses in each parish, including when there were groups that were > meeting in someone's house. In a recent lookup, I found a townland spelt 4 > different ways in the same Memoir so two spellings for Feegavla is not very > surprising. > > The index does not mention any Elliotts in Donaghmoyne. However, you will > find the description of Donaghmoyne in Memoirs volume 40. From the > references in the index, it appears that the Donaghmoyne memoir probably > spans at least 30 pages. I own a couple of Memoirs volumes but not that one > so I cannot look up the actual description. I was able to purchase my > volumes online some years ago and I assume that you can still do that. > Unfortunately, I don't remember now who I purchased them from but it should > be simple enough to Google Memoirs of Ireland and track them down and order > volume 40. > > Cheers > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Murray Bell > Sent: November-18-11 7:50 PM > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books > > After many years of searching for my ancestors in the wrong counties, I have > recently had reason to zero in on County Monaghan regarding my GG > grandparents-Jeremiah Bell And Frances Elliott. I recently discovered that > Frances Elliott was born in County Monaghan. I then did a search of the > Tithe applotment books for Monaghan and found a Jaramiah Bell in 1824 living > in Figevly townland, Donaghmoyne parish. In trying to figure out where to go > from here, I have the following questions which I am hoping someone can help > me with. > > 1. Figevly townland cannot be found in subsequent records. In Griffiths > there is a Feegavla townland in Donaghmoyne. How do I verify that > Figevly=Feegavla? > 2. Does a townland map exist for Donaghmoyne Parish & where can I get a > copy? > 3. What protestant. church records exist for Donaghmoyne Parish for the > period 1800-1840. The family was Methodist but I realize Methodist's often > utilized the Church Of ireland. > > Any advice much appreciated. > > tanks, murray Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Sorry Murray, My mind got ahead of my fingers. There were no Bells in the index either. John > John > > Thank you very much for the info. I will most likely spend the $30 bucks > to purchase volume 40. I like that it also includes Cavan which is another > county of interest to me. > > You mentioned that there were no Elliotts mentioned in Donaghmoyne index. > Were there any Bells? > > again, thanks very much > > murray