John, thanks so much for looking and trying to find information about the Milligan surname. As it seems a lot of those from the counties in what is now Northern Ireland probably early on came across from Scotland (or were taken across), I guess trying to label what a surname is or from where it came as definitely Scottish or Irish is really difficult. I am happy to think my folks were Scotch-Irish and I am proud of them wherever they came from. It's interesting to try to learn as much about them as I can before they came to the USA, but there comes a time when my husband is wondering what's for supper and I have to put those ancestors away for another day...or week...or month. Regards, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carey" <johnca@quickclic.net> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > Marilyn and Linda > > I imagine that the MacLysaght book that Linda is using is The Surnames of > Ireland. It was first published in 1985. As she said, Milligan is not > listed there. Another of his books is Irish Families Their Names , Arms > and > Origins that was first published in 1957. Milligan is not one of the > names > dealt with in the main parts of this book as well. However, among the > Appendices to this book there is one listing other Irish surnames rarely > found outside particular counties or baronies. Milligan is listed there > in > connection with Antrim and South Derry but he doesn't say the source of > this > information. Unfortunately, that's one of the frustrations with > MacLysaght. > > > John Carey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lmerle@comcast.net > Sent: November-14-11 10:19 AM > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > > Hi Marilyn, > > I do find Milligan in Black "Surnames of Scotland". This is one I'll have > to > blame on the Irish! (Joke). Ie MacLysaght doesn't mention it. > > Usually Black is considered 'definitive' for Scottish surnames. MacLysaght > is rarely accorded that same high esteem among the Irish, as I have > learned > on various lists. He has to compete with several earlier documenters of > Irish surnames, some quite early. The same lists discuss who is the truest > but of course it varies with the poster and I also think who you are > trying > to research. No doubt McL and his associates are great for those > researching > the Irish, but unfortunately, especially for those of us researching in > Ulster, that may not be the case. > > Besides these two books I have an "English" surname that also has a lot of > Scots, Welsh, and Irish names, which is why I said "English" and not > English > <grin>. However I don't have the time to look up all this. > > Often Bell "Book of Ulster Surnames" will give you a summary of what McL, > Black, and Reaney and Wilson (my English surname book) say. Bell does say > Milligan could be either Scots or Irish. > > This illustrates one of my main points: always look up the surname. I > should > add, in the right book <grin>! And I should take my own advice and follow > it > compulsively to avoid screwing up. > > Did you find the McCoy, etc? or where to check? Browse from > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NIR/Scotch-Irish.html > > down to Nov. 2011. > > If I am hallucinating and didn't do them, let us know. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Otterson" <rosiedoggie@myfairpoint.net> > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:47:37 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > > Hi, Linda.....hey, I got a DNA test, even found an Armstrong cousin in Co. > Tyrone although he wasn't interested in swapping ancestor stories. His > ancestors are from the same tiny townland...it's only a 25 match, but with > the location and all, it seems pretty positive. His cousin sent me photos > of > the old (wrecked now) farmstead. > > Milligan is also a Scottish name...they say that she always swore she was > Scottish, but then everybody did that. We don't know where Milligan and > Field came from for sure, but assume Milligan was Fermanagh as that is > pretty close to where my Armstrongs lived in Tyrone. We finally found the > Milligan graves in a Boston area cemetery. Of course they were hard to > find...one stone was only "Mother" and the other was "Father." It took a > Milligan researcher to find the stones among some of the offspring, but we > still can't find where they came from. You might remember that I asked > about > those folks before....they went back to Ireland and then back to the USA > through Liverpool to Quebec to Boston. We could never find ships' > records in Boston because they didn't come in that way. > > Sorry I missed the McCoy and Armstrong stuff...Termonmagurk area of Co. > Tyrone. You mean the list archives? I am surprised I missed that although > this has been a beastly year and I had to let the genealogy stuff mostly > slide. Hoping to get back to it. > > Cheers, > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lmerle@comcast.net> > To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > > >> Hi Marilyn, McKay and Armstrong are done. Check archives.....amazed! >> You aren't reading every single one of these <grin>!!! >> >> Nada for the other two. Mulligan of course is Irish, a Donegal sept, >> though now found in Mayo and Monaghan. Because as MacLysaght says >> "much reduced at the time of the Plantation". I think by that he means >> "mostly killed. " Field? Was his first name "Green"???? Sorry, bad >> joke. The Irish didn't tend to take locative surnames but it is >> possible his Irish name sounded like something...Or he was English. >> McLysaght says... bingo! (Oops that was me).... could be Fehilly or > Maghery. Fehilly is a Connacht sept. >> An Mhachaire 'of the field' is one of the few 'cognomina' taken from a >> place of residence. It is found in Co Limerick in the 1300s, but ... >> it takes the form Field in Armagh. >> >> Maybe you need a DNA test <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Otterson" <rosiedoggie@myfairpoint.net> >> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:47:45 PM >> Subject: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field >> >> Hi, >> I just dropped into the list today as I have been involved in a couple >> of other projects and have let genealogy slide. >> >> Now I see McKoy and McKay and now I am interested. I never pass up a >> chance to ask this group questions and now I am wondering a bit what >> is going on. >> Anyway....Armstrong, McCoy (or sometimes McKay), Milligan and Field >> from Co. >> Tyrone. If anybody sees those names, I'd love to know about it. >> >> Thanks, >> Marilyn >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >