hi LINDA, In an earlier email you mentioned BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM, Co. GALWAY. Could you please tell me what you know about these records. My fathers family were from this area - I have been able to track records back to BMD 1864 in the parish of ABBEYKNOCKMOY. Prior to that I am hoping his families BMD records were recorded in TUAM, which is where the official records were kept starting from 1864. Thanks & Regards, SEAN

On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:34 PM, sean roche wrote: > > hi LINDA, > > In an earlier email you mentioned BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM, > Co. GALWAY. > > Could you please tell me what you know about these records. > > My fathers family were from this area - I have been able to track > records back to BMD 1864 in the parish of ABBEYKNOCKMOY. > > Prior to that I am hoping his families BMD records were recorded in > TUAM, which is where the official records were kept starting from > 1864. > > Thanks & Regards, > > SEAN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

OOps. Prior message sent by mistake. Diane

Hi Sean, I don't recall mentioning any bmds from Galway or anywhere else. I mentioned a website: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ It is the last in a series of attempts by the Irish to provide access to BMDs in a way that didn't result in them being cursed widely on the Internet for a variety of faults or sins, while harvesting money from the diaspora (a diaspora that expects everything for nothing). The first attempt had each county funded to hire some local eejit to locate and index records into a computer. Then the diaspora wrote letters enclosing cash. This didn't work out too well because some counties did good but some really bad. Some of the people hired were more fit for herding sheep. Standards were not maintained. The diaspora didn't want to wait months after sending large amounts of cash to a foreign country, especially when they got no results or responses other than the canceled check. Some of course did much better. This attempt has aggregated the indexes into one database which is free on the Internet. Then the diaspora can do the searching themselves. They are directed to the website of the county and once they pay some cash, are provided on line with a transcription of the actual text. Or (and) they can order up a copy of the real thing. Of course it might be in the FHL but as we know from the Scots, it is not so hard to get the diaspora to pay money for what they could get free or almost if they learned a bit. They want instant access and so they pay for it. In many cases the indexes and records, before, could only be got by hiring someone in Dublin if not locally (not all in Dublin, but most were). Meanwhile the law prosecuted a few bishops who wouldn't let anyone see the records (parts of Limerick come to mind). While they were ruled public records, if I recall correctly, I don't know if one can get access to all of them right now. The local genealogy centre can tell you. The Limerick ones were filmed and in Dublin but no one was allowed to view them. I was dealing with a case in Limerick, which is why it is on my mind. We located the ancestor without needing to bother with the bishop, thank heavens. Or is he an archbishop? I donno...I know he's a pain, but that's all. I know nothing about Tuam records. There are a couple ways to find out. Go to http://www.rootsireland.ie/ and follow the lines to the Galway County Genealogical Centre. You can find them here: http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/map.php Click on Galway. Read information on page. It contains an email to contact them by. The site also provides a page with their sources: http://galwayeast.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources Some of the centres have very experienced staff and some do not. It's luck of the draw. For more info you can contact the East Galway Genealogical Centre. It's a bit of a wide sweep to claim that no records are recorded before a certain date. Actually the CHurch of IReland records begin much earlier. However not all parishes survive due to the Four Courts Fire. Many Irish and Presbyterians were baptized in the Church of Ireland. In the first course you take in Irish genealogy they tell you ALWAYS check those records. How? Well, you just did at the site above. Try IGI. Also using Ryan "Irish Records", identify the status of parish records surrounding where your ancestor lived. It'll tell you if they were locally held or microfilmed at the date of publication of the book. If you mean Catholic records begin in 1864, then, if the site above and Ryan say that, that is when they start. What kind of fool keeps records of an illegal church so the government can find them and arrest everyone? Really dumb!! People that dumb didn't make it through the 1600s in Ireland. However there are plenty of records that exist that aren't Catholic records. It takes far more than an email to learn how to use them. That's why thick books are written on how to do Irish genealogy: it ain't intuitive. You gotta learn what those records are and how to interpret them. "A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering your Irish Ancestors" is a good start. Happy hunting, Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean roche" <seanroche1@hotmail.com> To: "SCOTCH IRISH list" <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:34:33 PM Subject: [S-I] BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM hi LINDA, In an earlier email you mentioned BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM, Co. GALWAY. Could you please tell me what you know about these records. My fathers family were from this area - I have been able to track records back to BMD 1864 in the parish of ABBEYKNOCKMOY. Prior to that I am hoping his families BMD records were recorded in TUAM, which is where the official records were kept starting from 1864. Thanks & Regards, SEAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message