Murray I'm off to babysit for my daughter up in Milton 2 blocks from Global Genealogy. I know Sandy and Rick who own it so I'm going to check 2 OSM volumes for Fermanagh because I've found Bell and Elliot in same area in Ferm. No Bell no Elliott listed in Monaghan at all in index. I have all the volumes for Londonderry and Antrim and there's a reference for James Elliot in Coleraine, LY which I'll check later. It's worth a try. Your ancestors just might have come over from Scotland originally. Have you done your DNA and listed it with family tree or not? People find a lot of information this way. Makes for a great present. I did my brothers and the 2 friends who take care of our place in Florida as a thank you and you wouldn't believe what I found on them. It's extremely complicated to say the least but a fun challenge to learn too. Must go, Susan > From: murraybel@msn.com > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:15:50 -0500 > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books..with Bells on!! > > This got me doing a lot of research and looking at maps etc. What I know is this. My gg grandmother Frances Elliott was born in County Monaghan about 1814. She married jeremiah Bell in the 1830's. There is a jeremiah Bell on the Tithe applotment Books living in the townland of Figevly (now Feegavla) in Inniskeen Parish, Monaghan. Jeremiah and Frances had a son, William born about 1838. The family immigrated to Canada in 1840. In the 1842 Canadian census they are living in Fitzroy Township, carleton County, ontario. They are tenants on a farm owned by David Elliot who came about 1830 from the Kingscourt area of County Cavan, Ireland. I have determined that Frances is definitely not a daughter of David Elliott but Is probably related somehow (maybe a niece). Both the Bell & Elliott families were Wesleyan Methodist. > > Now , it appears that Feegavla & Kingscourt are no more than 15K apart. I think that there is a strong possibility that Jeremiah Bell, Frances Elliott, and David Elliott knew each other through the same church. Since Methodists used the C of I in those days, I am thinking I should try to track down the C of I records both at Kingscourt Cavan and at Inniskeen, Monaghan. Any other suggestions? > > Another question. Feegavala is in Inniskeen Parish , Monagahan and Kingscourt is in Enniskeen Parish, Cavan. Are Inniskeen & Enniskeen the same Parish although in different counties? > > Murray, Bell > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:18 PM, D H wrote: > > > Well just off hand...you've Clontibret, Inniskeen and Carrickmacross... > > > > > > Clontibret records only have one Bell and as the bride gets married in her church you might need to look elsewhere for Bells; > > > > 10th Sept1867 William Bell son of George Bell of Toome, married Margaret Leathem dau of Robert Leathem of Avalreagh, witnesses Robert > > > > Leathem + James Sloan Performed by Archdeacon of Clogher Rev John C.Wolfe > > > > > > 10th Sept1891 James Campbell son of Samuel Campbell of Clontibret, married Annie Elliott dau of Samuel + Isabella Elliott of Avalreagh, Clontibret, > > witnesses James Finlay + Minnie Elliott Performed by Rev E.J.Bury (Annie's sister Minnie married on 4th Mar1897 to James Finlay son of John Finlay of > > Avalreagh) she also had sisters Charlotte, Margaret Jane, brother Robert Donaldson Elliott, > > > > > > So you have Bell of Toome, Elliott of Clontibret and Avalreagh.... BUT are they part of your lot?? > > > > St Colman's church in Clontibret would get you Elliotts!! > > > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-st-colmans/target11.html is an Elliott g/stone there > > > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-st-colmans/target2.html will get you the Minister's name/address/phone number > > > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/markers.htm will get you the index to 100's of g/stone photos that I and a few > > others have put on IGP site for Monaghan > > > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ will get you the counties list where you can search g/stones in other counties. > > > > Plus there is a general'search' button... > > > > > > > > On 24/11/2011 00:10, scotch-irish-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> From: Murray Bell<murraybel@msn.com> > >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Tithe Applotment Books.. > >> To:scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > >> Message-ID:<BLU0-SMTP135FC2F9DD6AA1803D7D7B6AECE0@phx.gbl> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> DH > >> > >> Good advice. Checked out some adjoining townlands in Griffiths& 1911 census. Found Bells in both on a adjoining townland-Lower Cordrummans. Can't access Tithe books on line, Will get over to the library next week to check them out. > >> > >> The Bells in Griffiths and the 1911 census were Church of Ireland. Do you where the nearby C of I churches were? > >> > >> thanks, murray > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message