Hugh, I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of Ballyboencuragh. I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems relevant. Thank you and kind regards. Tom Speer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > Joe and Linda, > > I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked > quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. > I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my > eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least the > 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of > Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the > American Revolution." > > Hugh Nevin > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index >> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >> >> Hi Linda, >> >> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then >> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still no >> luck. >> >> >> Joseph Flock III >> >> Linda wrote: >> >> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that >> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >> Famine. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

There are two Kerby Miller books now being discussed. I was originally talking about 'Emigrants and Exiles . Ireland and the Irish exodus to North America'. Hugh is now talking about 'Irish immigrants in the land of Canaan: letters and memoirs from colonial and revolutionary America'. Both are partially viewable on Google books. I picked up the first one quite cheaply from Amazon. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6nljz5N8JlUC&dq http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bq79_YZ8ViIC&dq Joe ________________________________ From: Tom Speer <tspeer@gofree.indigo.ie> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter Hugh, I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose tombstone in Donegal gives his date of  birth as 1781and age 84 years. He was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of Ballyboencuragh. I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems relevant. Thank you and kind regards. Tom Speer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > Joe and Linda, > > I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in.  I've just looked > quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. > I didn't see the specific phrase.  Of the two references that caught my > eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference:  "By at least the > 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of > Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the > American Revolution." > > Hugh Nevin > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index >> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >> >> Hi Linda, >> >> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then >> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still no >> luck. >> >> >> Joseph Flock III >> >> Linda wrote: >> >> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that >> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >> Famine. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joe, I have "Emigrants and Exiles". As soon as I finish moving my computer to Linux and set up my wifi network, I'll look through it. On Linux now but gotta learn to admin it a little better. Shouldn't be tooooooo hard as I used to teach Unix internals and administration (and advanced administration, much more interesting). But this was servers, not clients, and before graphical interfaces. This all due to the latest Xp meltdown. Of course Linux was running just fine off the same hard drive (dual boot). Repaired the XP install. Then it wouldn't let me back on till I'd activated it. This pissed me off again. Two days later it's still applying updates and making me reboot. Not now. I'm running on Linux unless I gotta use Word for this one last project. You would not believe how grouchy I was on Friday. The trouble (still) with Linux or Ubuntu (that I run) is too many choices. Firewall? Yes -- but which one? Even installing is strange. Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center? What's this codex crap just so I can listen to my DVD? Found article on installing a restricted package that installed Flash (which I hate, but oh well), and proprietary codexs and other still I don't understand, but it didn't say where to get it. Found it in Synaptics. Little squirt who wrote the article didn't say.... On and on you go, all the time decisions, and being a Libra, I have a hard time making one. Now up to "which antivirus'? Not the one that only tells you you're infected. Fix the dang thing too. Ah....found one that claims to do that too. Free Norton with Comcast, but it doesn't run on Linux, which is probably good, as I hate it. Luckily I've been migrating to free opensource software that runs on Linux now for a couple years, so I know how to use Open Office and other critical tools. Found a backup tool, but gotta configure it. Found a mozy substitute (no brainer way to go is Unbuntu One). Maybe need to write article on how to dump microsoft even if you are just a User. We need step by step instructions, which, as far as I can see, no one has done. And I got a huge stack of Linux manuals, right next to my obligatory stack of distros. 800 pages and still no answer to how to do this simply. There's no genealogy distro....hey folks, anyone want to partner on a genealogy distro? What fun! NO choices. One fire wall, one antivirus, etc. The Linux for people who don't want to read a manual on Linux. I donno if I'll stick with Legacy Family Tree (which I LOVE) and run it in Windows emulation mode under WINE, or try out Gramps (genealogy program on Linux). Any opinions? I heard Legacy runs on Linux in WINE. Maybe will try out today or tomorrow. As soon as I get rid of this dark purply black desktop...... So you can see I'm kinda busy right now..... Also gotta get this wifi router going, supposedly a 'no brainer'. I got a netbook that I mainly read books on (and take to genealogy libraries). It's going to Linux today too. I got a bag of distros that I bought cheaply as burning your own doesn't always work tooo well, and I was trying to minimize what else can go wrong. On my step by step guide, step one is 'buy some $20 distros, dude. You don't want to spend hours frying CDs with bad downloaded ISOs on them. Or trying to figure out what an ISO is. Hard enough to book from a DVD or flashdrive with a good distro. WHich function key?? GRRRR!!!!!" Such fun.... My brother and I agree we're not going to any old folks home (aka 'independent living center') that doesn't have wifi, a resident computer admin, vegetarian organic food, tai chi classes, and hot tubs. We're boomers!!! Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:51:42 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter There are two Kerby Miller books now being discussed. I was originally talking about 'Emigrants and Exiles . Ireland and the Irish exodus to North America'. Hugh is now talking about 'Irish immigrants in the land of Canaan: letters and memoirs from colonial and revolutionary America'. Both are partially viewable on Google books. I picked up the first one quite cheaply from Amazon. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6nljz5N8JlUC&dq http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bq79_YZ8ViIC&dq Joe ________________________________ From: Tom Speer <tspeer@gofree.indigo.ie> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter Hugh, I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of Ballyboencuragh. I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems relevant. Thank you and kind regards. Tom Speer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > Joe and Linda, > > I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked > quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. > I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my > eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least the > 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of > Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the > American Revolution." > > Hugh Nevin > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index >> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >> >> Hi Linda, >> >> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then >> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still no >> luck. >> >> >> Joseph Flock III >> >> Linda wrote: >> >> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that >> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >> Famine. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tom, The book is IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN: LETTERS AND MEMOIRS FROM COLONIAL AND REVOLUTIONARY AMERICA, 1675-1815. It is written and edited by Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N. Doyle. Oxford University Press published it in 2003. Perhaps the best brief description of the book is in this Preface paragraph: "Each of the book's chapters focuses on one or more specific immigrants and on the documents they wrote or dictated. Thus, the chapters constitute a series of historical essays, each can stand alone, but together they represent at once the disparate character, the common themes, and the mosaiclike texture of early Irish migration." I did not find Spier/Speer in the Index. Regards, Hugh On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Tom Speer wrote: > Hugh, > I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose > tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He > was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from > Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William > Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of Ballyboencuragh. > I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems > relevant. Thank you and kind regards. > Tom Speer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> > To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > > >> Joe and Linda, >> >> I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked >> quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. >> I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my >> eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least the >> 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of >> Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the >> American Revolution." >> >> Hugh Nevin >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >>> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >>> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >>> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index >>> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >>> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >>> >>> Hi Linda, >>> >>> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >>> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >>> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then >>> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still no >>> luck. >>> >>> >>> Joseph Flock III >>> >>> Linda wrote: >>> >>> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that >>> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >>> Famine. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Hugh, For your prompt reply and additional information. You have been most helpful. Regards, Tom. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > Hello Tom, > > The book is IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN: LETTERS AND MEMOIRS > FROM COLONIAL AND REVOLUTIONARY AMERICA, 1675-1815. It is written and > edited by Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N. > Doyle. Oxford University Press published it in 2003. > > Perhaps the best brief description of the book is in this Preface > paragraph: "Each of the book's chapters focuses on one or more specific > immigrants and on the documents they wrote or dictated. Thus, the > chapters constitute a series of historical essays, each can stand alone, > but together they represent at once the disparate character, the common > themes, and the mosaiclike texture of early Irish migration." > > I did not find Spier/Speer in the Index. > > Regards, > > Hugh > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Tom Speer wrote: > >> Hugh, >> I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose >> tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He >> was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from >> Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a >> William >> Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of >> Ballyboencuragh. >> I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems >> relevant. Thank you and kind regards. >> Tom Speer >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> >> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >> >> >>> Joe and Linda, >>> >>> I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked >>> quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. >>> I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my >>> eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least >>> the >>> 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of >>> Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the >>> American Revolution." >>> >>> Hugh Nevin >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >>>> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >>>> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >>>> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the >>>> index >>>> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >>>> >>>> Linda Merle >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >>>> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >>>> >>>> Hi Linda, >>>> >>>> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >>>> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >>>> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it >>>> then >>>> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still >>>> no >>>> luck. >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph Flock III >>>> >>>> Linda wrote: >>>> >>>> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration >>>> that >>>> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >>>> Famine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello List: Page three of "IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN" refers to a David Lindsey and a letter he wrote from County Tyrone in 1758 to his Fleming cousins in Pennsylvania (really New Jersey). Accumulated evidence suggests that this man is my gggGrandfather David Lindsay. Because I (after much looking) was unable to initiate a new thread, I'm adding this post in reply form. If this County Tyrone David Lindsey (or you may be a descendent of Malcolm Fleming) is perhaps of interest to you, let me know as I have 'stuff' to share! Linda, the "Start a new thread" instructions are: To post a new message on any board, click on the "Begin New Thread" link in the upper portion of the screen. This can be done at the home page of any board or when viewing a specific message on a board. I simply could not follow these instructions . . . send help! Bob Lindsay Email Checked by Norton -----Original Message----- From: scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scotch-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Hugh Nevin Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:24 AM To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter Hello Tom, The book is IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN: LETTERS AND MEMOIRS FROM COLONIAL AND REVOLUTIONARY AMERICA, 1675-1815. It is written and edited by Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N. Doyle. Oxford University Press published it in 2003. Perhaps the best brief description of the book is in this Preface paragraph: "Each of the book's chapters focuses on one or more specific immigrants and on the documents they wrote or dictated. Thus, the chapters constitute a series of historical essays, each can stand alone, but together they represent at once the disparate character, the common themes, and the mosaiclike texture of early Irish migration." I did not find Spier/Speer in the Index. Regards, Hugh On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Tom Speer wrote: > Hugh, > I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose > tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He > was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from > Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William > Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of Ballyboencuragh. > I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems > relevant. Thank you and kind regards. > Tom Speer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Nevin" <hnevin@nycap.rr.com> > To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter > > >> Joe and Linda, >> >> I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked >> quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants. >> I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my >> eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least the >> 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of >> Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the >> American Revolution." >> >> Hugh Nevin >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, lmerle@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you >>> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again. >>> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in >>> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index >>> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index. >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Joe Flock" <joe.flock@yahoo.com> >>> To: SCOTCH-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM >>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter >>> >>> Hi Linda, >>> >>> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the >>> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but >>> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then >>> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still no >>> luck. >>> >>> >>> Joseph Flock III >>> >>> Linda wrote: >>> >>> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that >>> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato >>> Famine. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message