Hi Ann, thanks, that's the index whose name I forgot -- the published index for the old GRO manuscripts in Dublin. You can go to www.worldcat.org and create an account and tell it where you live. THen it will search for this book (or any other) and tell you where the closest copies are. The whole collection of microfilm is not only in Salt Lake but also in the FHL in Los Angeles, btw. Where the weather is probably better than either here or Salt Lake today. Unfortunately these manuscripts are largely Anglo Irish and some Irish (significant families). Not much in them on Ulster farm families. But you never know so it can be worth a look. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: AnnL7777@aol.com To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 11 February, 2012 5:33:45 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] 17th century Ulster records for Individuals on, Montgomery, Hamilton, In a message dated 2/11/2012 12:53:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, "D H" <hallmark1@utvinternet.com writes: Well the Pedigree doesn't seem to exist so I need to look at as many Pedigrees as possible just to get crumbs.... Dave, you and Linda probably both know about this, but for everybody, a useful resource is Virginia Wade McAnlis’ The Consolidated Index to the Records of the Genealogical Office, Dublin, Ireland (4 vols. Issaquah and Port Angeles, WA: by author, 1994-1997) indexes surnames found in GO material and gives corresponding FHL microfilm numbers. http://www.nli.ie/en/searchresults.aspx?query=McAnlis or simply go to www.nli.ie and type in the Search box: "McAnlis" and items will come up. You download the pdf of whichever of the 4 volumes you want. Be sure to read the pages at the beginning of at least one volume (they are repeated at the front of each volume). They explain the records and how to look up the references to the records and find the number of the film on which the record appears. I found it useful to print off those two cross-reference pages. (On my copy I also highlighted the numbers to the films that currently reside at my local FHC.) Ordinary people are less likely to appear in these Wills, probates and family pedigrees, but it is worth a look. It could be a multi-generational bonanza. Many References refer to the Betham Wills and Pedigrees which are among the major groups in this collection. As an Example I looked up one of your names and found this WYLIE/ WYLY MS 223-54 Betham Will Abstracts 5/40, 10/185, 12/312, 17/213 - Lodge 5/21 This means that you want Betham Will Abstracts: Vol. 4/page 40, Vol 10 page 185 etc. and SLC means The Family History Library film number (in Salt Lake City) The Reference page says: MS 223-54 Betham Will Abstracts Vol. 1-4 MSS 223-226 SLC100103 Vol. 5-8 MSS 227-230 SLC100104 Vol. 9-11 MSS 231-233 SLC100105 Vol. 12-14 MSS 234-236 SLC100106 Vol. 15-16 MSS 237-238 SLC100107 etc etc. Lodge 5/21 refers to a ten-volume collection called "Lodge" in Bethams's Index to Alliances in Prerogative Wills. What you will find in the records themselves is an abstract by Mr,Betham of the original will giving names and relationships of those mentioned in the will, which he used to formulate the sketch pedigrees found in other notebooks mentioned below. See film number SLC #100113 for the index, and MS 223 through 256 for the abstracts. So if I am reading this right, you want Vol. 5 which is here: Vol. 5-8 MSS 227-230 SLC100104 This is a massive effort by Virginia McAnlis. Take a look. Ann Lamb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's an example of an "Ulster" family found in these records: BOYD/BOYDE MS 213 Antrim Families p. 196, 204, 210, 232 MS 280-85 Fisher MSS II, p. 199 MS 125 Heraldic Sketches p. 233, 273 MS 199 Ecclesiastical Visitations p. 215, 254, 262 MS 103-111a-h Grants/Confirmations of Arms Vol. 110, p.134 MS 223-54 Betham Will Abstracts 1/223, 3/48, 4/10, 6/219, 7/43, 9/101, 11/53, 12/279, 13/154, 14/168, 15/191, 16/206, 17/1, 18/66, 19/256, 20/254,21/91, 24/422, 26/320, 31/337, 32/52 – Lodge 5/131, 10/8 of Ballymacool, Co. Donegal MS 261-276 Betham Sketch Peds. Series 1 Vol. IV, p. 59 Kilmarnock MS 435 Iwrwin A, p. 366, 367, 368 MS 432-437 Irwin 436 p. 366-8 MS 432-437 Irwin 436 Pt. II of Co. Donegal Loose Papers/Pedigrees of Ballycastle, Co. Antrim MS 573-576 Sadleir Peds. 576 p. 25 MS 184 Lords Entries Vol. II, p. 48 Co. Antrim MS 215-219 Anglo-Irish Peds. I, p. 205 It's very easy to scroll to your surname and look. Even though you have Ulster names, take a quick look. You'll kick yourself if you don't. I'll be there in September to find out what they have. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project