The new edition of "The Ulster-Scot" newsletter is out, some of which is available online from the Ulster-Scots Agency website at:- http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/theulsterscot.asp -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

So sorry list for the mess......dont know what happened Will try again at another time. Sarah

HELLLOOOO List, We have returned from a wonderful trip to NI, Ireland, Scotland and England. All your talk makes me a wee bit homesick already. We didn't want to come home. Could have stayed all summer. We were there on the election day.........saw Ian Priestly'e acceptance speech..... he sang the doxology, praising God for winning....... would never happen here I'm thinking. All the winners were elated.........Anyway it was a great experience and my cup and saucer is running over with the enjoyment we had. The people, and countryside and were just like I always dreamed. I'm still absorbing all the sights, sounds, and smells we enjoyed. Just overwhelming. The weather was 2 weeks of sunshine while we did day trips and that was a big blessing. We did get to Co. Tyrone to find the area and little Church my FLEMINGS were thought to be from orginally.......and found many names that are closely realted to our lines. Got some new leads from the cemetary...... The cousin we met through DNA was just exceptionally nice and a great host. I am trying to get my old scanner up and going and will get a new power source in the am and try to get some of the photos and postcards posted late tomorrow. Many of the Armstrong Castle at Bamburg, or Bamburg Castle, and the Gilnockie Tower owned by Armstrongs. Then also saw and toured the Maxwell Castle still owned by Maxwells. It is not restored but they have drawings of what it was like......Also of course we toured Stirling and the William Wallace Memorial..........they are very proud of that and the attention "Braveheart" brought to that time in history and William Wallace. Quite a place.... then took in the Edinburg Castle.......and many more Abbys and manor homes. Just lot of great old homes and castles to wander through............had a greaet time. History is my favorite subject..........The hills and winding roads are favored by motorcycles and it is great place to ride . Especially the Highlands.......NI was too. Will answere questions is you have any and will write more later with photos late tomorrow. Left part of my heart in that beautiful land of Erin........cant wait to go back...... Later, Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scotch-Irish-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #102 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.0 - Release Date: 6/2/05

RBradley wrote: > Scundered verb found out or discovered, usually whilst trying to > do something of debateable legality, eg. "see ye got scundered working > the dole..." > > phrases uttered and spluttered by the perplexing people you may meet > in Northern Ireland. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/gmhp/dictionary/dictionary_s.shtml Never heard it being used like that before at all. Ulster-Scots Voices http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/voices/atilazed/s.shtml *Scunner*: A feeling of loathing. 'She took a right scunner at him from the very start.' *Scundered*: Embarrassed, mortified. 'I was completely scundered when he walked in on me like that'. -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

Hugh H. Macartney wrote: > Having grown up in Ulster and lived in various areas I never heard the > word, "scundered". The expression is to "take a scunner" at something > you find loathsome or unpleasant. The same word is used in Scottish > dialect and is thought to derive from the Middle English word, "scurn" > meaning shrink or to shrink from. > Hugh Macartney Yes the same word. In large parts of Ulster it is scunnered and here in Tyrone there is a distinct d in the pronunciation giving scundered. A person can be a scunner or scunder but here it is also used "I am absolutely sundered". I have heard it is also used in parts of Canada alongside "reddding out" or "redding up the place" - cleaning up / tidying up > Alan wrote: > >> May 29, 2005 >> >> Biography: Carson by Geoffrey Lewis >> REVIEWED BY RUTH DUDLEY EDWARDS >> >> CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland >> by Geoffrey Lewis >> Hambledon and London £19.99 pp277 >> >> There is a timelessness about Northern Ireland. The Rev Ian Paisley, >> who has just succeeded David Trimble as the leading voice of Ulster >> unionism, >> epitomises a centuries-old tradition of roaring clergy who repel the >> British government as much as the southern Irish. A century ago, Arthur >> Balfour, the great >> Conservative statesman and Edward Carson's mentor, could no more abide >> Ulster Protestants than these days can the majority of new Labour. >> Peter Hain, the new secretary of state for Ulster, already looks like a >> chap who wishes he >> had stayed safely in his Tardis instead of straying into what sounds >> like the 17th century. >> >> Yet there have always been outsiders who saw the merits of these flinty, >> disciplined, straight-talking people, not least those Americans who >> recognise what they owe to the work ethic and raw courage of >> innumerable immigrant >> Presbyterian Ulster-Scots who fought valiantly on the frontiers and in >> the war of independence. Among those admirers closer to home were two >> romantics: >> Rudyard Kipling (who wrote elegiacally at the time of the home-rule >> controversy of >> the betrayal of loyal Ulster) and Carson. >> >> It is one of the many paradoxes of Carson's life that he was born and >> brought up in Dublin of Scottish and southern Anglo-Irish stock, made >> his career in the south and in London, yet became the greatest of all >> the heroes in the >> Ulster Protestant pantheon. An Irish patriot, he was passionately >> devoted to the Union. And although he hated the very idea of partition, >> he became >> indeed (as the book's subtitle emphasises) the driving force behind the >> division of Ireland. He is venerated by bigots such as Paisley, yet >> there was nothing >> sectarian about him. >> >> Full article at the link below....... >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2-534-1626735,00.html >> -- >> >> Faugh A Ballagh >> >> Lámh Dhearg Abú >> >> *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* >> Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in >> Ye hallion - you tearaway >> Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day >> Scundered - fed up >> >> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1 >> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>> >> -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

Scundered verb found out or discovered, usually whilst trying to do something of debateable legality, eg. "see ye got scundered working the dole..." phrases uttered and spluttered by the perplexing people you may meet in Northern Ireland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/gmhp/dictionary/dictionary_s.shtml ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <alan@ulster-scots.co.uk> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Book Review- CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland > Hugh H. Macartney wrote: > >> Having grown up in Ulster and lived in various areas I never heard the >> word, "scundered". The expression is to "take a scunner" at something you >> find loathsome or unpleasant. The same word is used in Scottish dialect >> and is thought to derive from the Middle English word, "scurn" meaning >> shrink or to shrink from. >> Hugh Macartney > > > > Yes the same word. In large parts of Ulster it is scunnered and here in > Tyrone there is a distinct d in the pronunciation giving scundered. > A person can be a scunner or scunder but here it is also used "I am > absolutely sundered". > I have heard it is also used in parts of Canada alongside "reddding out" > or "redding up the place" - cleaning up / tidying up > > > >> Alan wrote: >> >>> May 29, 2005 >>> >>> Biography: Carson by Geoffrey Lewis >>> REVIEWED BY RUTH DUDLEY EDWARDS >>> >>> CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland >>> by Geoffrey Lewis >>> Hambledon and London £19.99 pp277 >>> >>> There is a timelessness about Northern Ireland. The Rev Ian Paisley, >>> who has just succeeded David Trimble as the leading voice of Ulster >>> unionism, >>> epitomises a centuries-old tradition of roaring clergy who repel the >>> British government as much as the southern Irish. A century ago, Arthur >>> Balfour, the great >>> Conservative statesman and Edward Carson's mentor, could no more abide >>> Ulster Protestants than these days can the majority of new Labour. >>> Peter Hain, the new secretary of state for Ulster, already looks like a >>> chap who wishes he >>> had stayed safely in his Tardis instead of straying into what sounds >>> like the 17th century. >>> >>> Yet there have always been outsiders who saw the merits of these flinty, >>> disciplined, straight-talking people, not least those Americans who >>> recognise what they owe to the work ethic and raw courage of >>> innumerable immigrant >>> Presbyterian Ulster-Scots who fought valiantly on the frontiers and in >>> the war of independence. Among those admirers closer to home were two >>> romantics: >>> Rudyard Kipling (who wrote elegiacally at the time of the home-rule >>> controversy of >>> the betrayal of loyal Ulster) and Carson. >>> >>> It is one of the many paradoxes of Carson's life that he was born and >>> brought up in Dublin of Scottish and southern Anglo-Irish stock, made >>> his career in the south and in London, yet became the greatest of all >>> the heroes in the >>> Ulster Protestant pantheon. An Irish patriot, he was passionately >>> devoted to the Union. And although he hated the very idea of partition, >>> he became >>> indeed (as the book's subtitle emphasises) the driving force behind the >>> division of Ireland. He is venerated by bigots such as Paisley, yet >>> there was nothing >>> sectarian about him. >>> >>> Full article at the link below....... >>> >>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2-534-1626735,00.html >>> -- >>> >>> Faugh A Ballagh >>> >>> Lámh Dhearg Abú >>> >>> *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* >>> Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in >>> Ye hallion - you tearaway >>> Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day >>> Scundered - fed up >>> >>> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1 >>> <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>> >>> > > > -- > > Faugh A Ballagh > > Lámh Dhearg Abú > > *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* > Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in > Ye hallion - you tearaway > Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day > Scundered - fed up > > > <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1> > > >

May 29, 2005 Biography: Carson by Geoffrey Lewis REVIEWED BY RUTH DUDLEY EDWARDS CARSON: The Man Who Divided Ireland by Geoffrey Lewis Hambledon and London £19.99 pp277 There is a timelessness about Northern Ireland. The Rev Ian Paisley, who has just succeeded David Trimble as the leading voice of Ulster unionism, epitomises a centuries-old tradition of roaring clergy who repel the British government as much as the southern Irish. A century ago, Arthur Balfour, the great Conservative statesman and Edward Carson's mentor, could no more abide Ulster Protestants than these days can the majority of new Labour. Peter Hain, the new secretary of state for Ulster, already looks like a chap who wishes he had stayed safely in his Tardis instead of straying into what sounds like the 17th century. Yet there have always been outsiders who saw the merits of these flinty, disciplined, straight-talking people, not least those Americans who recognise what they owe to the work ethic and raw courage of innumerable immigrant Presbyterian Ulster-Scots who fought valiantly on the frontiers and in the war of independence. Among those admirers closer to home were two romantics: Rudyard Kipling (who wrote elegiacally at the time of the home-rule controversy of the betrayal of loyal Ulster) and Carson. It is one of the many paradoxes of Carson's life that he was born and brought up in Dublin of Scottish and southern Anglo-Irish stock, made his career in the south and in London, yet became the greatest of all the heroes in the Ulster Protestant pantheon. An Irish patriot, he was passionately devoted to the Union. And although he hated the very idea of partition, he became indeed (as the book's subtitle emphasises) the driving force behind the division of Ireland. He is venerated by bigots such as Paisley, yet there was nothing sectarian about him. Full article at the link below....... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2-534-1626735,00.html -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://68.178.144.142/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

FYI The History Channel, at least in western New York State, will present the program, "Cromwell, the Conqueror of Ireland", this Sunday at 10:00 am. Sugar-coated history but a chance to see the actual places where these events happened. Betty Cary

I received the following notice of reproduction on CD of some old Irish publications that may be of use in your genealogy research. I have no association with this project - just pass it on for your information. John Polk Havre de Grace, MD ================================================================= > [Original Message] > From: Archive CD Books Ireland <newsletter@archivecdbooks.ie> > To: <jfpolk@earthlink.net> > Date: 5/27/2005 9:20:21 AM > Subject: May Releases > > Issue 1, 27 May 2005 > > Dear Project Members and Friends, > > Welcome to the Archive CD Books Ireland newsletter. We are > delighted to announce the second release of CD-ROMs, > bringing a number of extremely rare publications to note, > and making them available at an affordable price. All of > the items have come from the library at Trinity College > Dublin, and include rare commercial directories such as > Matier's 1835 Directory of Belfast, Harvey's 1866 Directory > of Waterford, and Pigot's Dublin & Hibernian Provincial > Directory of 1824. The last item covers the entire country, > and customers have the option of buying the complete > publication, or (for a fraction of the cost) just the > section for the Province they are interested in. We are > also pleased to bring you the second volume (1837) of much > underused Catholic Directory, Almanack & Registry. Our hope > is to bring out the entire series over the coming months. > We have also focused on the west of Ireland with this > release, bringing you a complete digitised copy of James > Hardiman's celebrated History of Galway published in 1820. > This book is now so rare that the facsimile reprint from > the 1970s is selling for more than 700 EURO! Now you can > own your own copy for just 29.90 EURO. Finally we are > particularly pleased to announce the publication of Taylor > & Skinner's road maps of Ireland, originally published in > 1783. This extraordinary book contains 289 detailed maps of > the Irish countryside, and though often listed as an > important historical and genealogical source is largely > unavailable in most libraries. Full details about all these > titles appear at the end of this message and online at: > http://www.archivecdbooks.ie/acatalog/New_Releases.html > > Those of you who are members can get your discount on all > these titles by logging onto our web site following the > instructions we sent you by e-mail. If you are not members > we urge you to join the Archive CD Books Ireland Project. > For a small initial payment you can get discounts on ALL > our titles, and any ones we release in the future too. Your > membership will help us grow the project, and make the > wealth of Ireland's rare (and often forgotten) published > heritage available to all. We also plan to publish special > editions, just for members, in thanks for their support. > > But enough of the sales pitch! Here are May's Archive CD > Books Ireland titles: > > > Pigot and Co's City of Dublin and Hibernian Provincial > Directory� (1824) > Ref: IET0005 ISBN: 1-84630-027-4 > Price: EURO 49.51 (ex VAT) > Description: This is one of earliest full commercial > directories of Ireland, and includes over 220 urban centres > throughout the island. Organised by Province, and then > town, it lists all the principal office holders, gentry, > professionals, tradesmen, hotels, schools, public > institutions, churches, and even pubs for each town in > Ireland. There is a description of each Province and town > as well. This was Pigot's much-expanded second edition (the > previous version dated 1820) and is now extremely rare. The > book is organised into four sections, by province, with > additional details for Dublin: (Leinster & Dublin, > Connaught, Munster, Ulster. You can either buy the full > publication (price above) you can buy just the Province > section you are interested in for EURO 16.45 (ex VAT) each. > > > Thomas S. Harvey, The Waterford almanac and directory for > 1866 (1865) > Ref. IET0017 ISBN: 1-84630-023-1 > Price: EURO 16.45 (ex VAT) > Description: This was the first directory of the city of > Waterford published by Thomas Harvey. It includes a > detailed alphabetical directory of inhabitants within the > city, as well as a full trades directory. The almanac > provides a lot of additional local information, including a > Calendar of important local events for 1866, lists of > officers of the state and the corporation of Waterford, > local Members of Parliament, and details of all the fairs > and markets held in the county and the adjacent counties of > Kilkenny, Tipperary and Wexford. At the start of the book > is a map of Waterford city, and at the end are many > advertisements for local merchants and tradesmen, making > this an essential resource for the study of Waterford and > its inhabitants in the mid-nineteenth century. > > > William T. Matier, Matier's Belfast directory for 1835-6, > containing a general alphabetical list of the principal > inhabitants of Belfast and Ballymacarrett... (1835) > Ref. IET0018 ISBN: 1-84630-025-8 > Price: EURO 16.45 (ex VAT) > Description: This book is the first Directory of Belfast > published by William Matier, at a time when Belfast city > was growing very quickly as a consequence of > industrialisation. This directory covers the city of > Belfast and Ballymacarrett. It gives a full trades > directory, and alphabetical lists of all professions, > noblemen, gentry, merchants, traders residing in the city > and its neighbourhood. This is followed by a full and > detailed breakdown of all the public institutions in the > city, including their principal staff members, and a full > list of all churches. The book also contains many > advertisements by traders and merchants. > > > A Complete Catholic Directory, Almanack and Registry, Vol. > 2, 1837 > Ref. IET0019 ISBN: 1-84630-022-3 > Price: EURO 16.45 (ex VAT) > Description: This is the second volume of this series, > which continued annual publication for much of the > nineteenth century. This volume contains a complete > registry of all Church officials, and the hierarchy > throughout the world. However for Irish research, arguably > the most important section is the Ecclesiastical Register > of Ireland. This is a diocese-by-diocese tour of the > country, detailing what parishes were operational, and who > were the priests and curates for each parish. This is > especially important for genealogical researchers trying to > determine what parish registers may survive. The volume > also contains an account of the state of Catholicism in > Ireland, with annals for 1836, which is an important > official overview at a time of great change. The book also > contains a general calendar or Almanack giving details of > the official religious observance for the year. > > > James Hardiman, The History of the Town and County of the > town of Galway from the earliest period to the present > time, embellished with several engravings to which is > added, a copious appendix, containing the principal > charters and other original documents (1820) > Ref. IET0043 ISBN: 1-84630-026-6 > Price: EURO 24.71 (ex VAT) > Description: This book is considered to be the definitive > history of Galway. James Hardiman, an active member of the > Royal Irish Academy and sub-commissioner of Public Records > at Dublin Castle published it in 1820. As a result the book > contains much information now lost as a consequence of the > 1922 fire at the Public Record Office. The book is > organised into four sections, with additional appendices > and other information at the end. These are: > - History of Galway from earliest times to the present in 7 > chapters. This is the main bulk of the book and includes > copious transcripts of original sources. > - The Corporation of Galway. This section includes lists of > all city officials and MPs from earliest times and copies > of the charters, etc. > - Ecclesiastical History of Galway. > �- Galway in 1820. Details of all official, public and > private institutions, governance, education, economic > information, etc. > The book also contains many fine illustrations of the city, > as well as maps, including a large-scale map of the city in > 1651. > > > Taylor and Skinner's maps of the roads of Ireland surveyed > in 1777 and corrected down to 1783 (1783) > Ref. IET0027 ISBN: 1-84630-024-X > Price: EURO 24.71 (ex VAT) > Description: This remarkable and exceptionally rare > publication was the second and corrected edition of the > first road map of Ireland. Originally published in 1778, > the authors felt it necessary to reissue the title quickly > to correct deficiencies. The maps were commissioned by the > House of Commons in Ireland, and contain 289 pages of maps. > The index for these detailed maps shows distances in > English and Irish miles. The maps themselves show copious > topographical details, like forests, hills, farm land, > mills, houses, churches, etc. The large houses also give > the owners names. There is a personal name index at the > back detailing every name recorded on the maps. This > edition also contains a new large-scale 'accurate' map of > Ireland. Taylor and Skinner's road maps of Ireland (and > their books for Scotland, England and the USA) were a > phenomenal achievement for their day, and remain an > essential research tool for the late eighteenth century. > > So come to our web site at: http://www.archivecdbooks.ie > and order today. > > We also want your feedback on what we are doing. Are there > titles you want published? Do you have a book which should > be? What do you think of the Project? or any other > questions and comments you might have. 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Listers, I need the exact and correct name of the church listed above it maybe St.Colmanels or St.Colmanells or St;Colemanels? need addy and name and whatever info can be found about and year it began.? Trying to research this Church of Ireland church that does not seem to have much info on the net about it. Researching Douglas aand Branigan there. Nancy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

> > >> I am searching for information about my paternal great grandmother, >> Annabella McCoy who married my great grandfather, James Armstrong. >> Annabella was born in 1839 in County Tyrone, Omagh district, Northern >> Ireland, the daughter of William McCoy, a farmer. James Armstrong was >> born in 1837, son of William Armstrong, a farmer. Their marriage was >> recorded in the Church of Cooley, (Church of Ireland, Anglican) on May >> 18, 1858. >> >> Annabella and James Armstrong came to America in 1868 along with their >> daughter, Eliza Jane, and my grandfather, William C. ARmstrong, b. March >> 17, 1865. They had several more children while living in Boston. >> >> If anybody has any McCoy/McKay connections in Northern Ireland, >> especially Co. Tyrone, I would be interested in hearing from them. >> (McCoy and McKay are often used interchangeably as the pronunciation >> varied. Many people couldn't write so whoever was doing the writing for >> them or recording records would record spellings of names the way they, >> themselves, pronounced them, or the way others did.) >> >> Regards, >> Marilyn in New Hampshire >

Researching Wm.Douglas and Martha his wife and their 2 children that I am aware of Chalrotte and Arthur both born before 1850 Hoping to find more family members if possible but cannot seem to find records or info about this particualar church/location on the net any suggestions or ideas..I would like to get back further in time but have run into a brick wall. Also researching Branigan there too. Need net connections to resaerch this or a direct person to person cousin connection. Nancy __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

Hi List Not strictly Scoth-Irish this one. I have a John McFaden and Patrick McCallum, both from Argyll. I know for certain that the McFadens were in Donegal 1798, from childrens death certificates etc. I suspect both McFaden and McCallum were in the 94th Argyllshire Highlanders. They both had children born in Ireland, some of whom married and returned with their own families to Scotland about 1842. Are there any McFaden (McFayden, McPhaiden), out there that might be connected Janette

The Banbridge and Dromore birth records have been updated on my website, Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/05

Judy: Follow this sequence to arrive at the archives for the Scotch-Irish list: Go to: _WWW.ROOTSWEB.COM_ (http://www.ROOTSWEB.COM) On the left side go down to the heading MAILING LIST and click on the subtitle which reads: INDEX(Browse all lists). You should now be at a page with is titled MAILING LISTS. Go to the heading which reads INTERNATIONAL. Click on the Northern Ireland title under INTERNATIONAL. Northern Ireland will give you all their lists which includes the Scotch-Irish list. Click on Scotch-Irish and then go to the bottom of the page. You will be able to Search or Browse the archives of the Scotch-Irish list. Using search you can use keywords by year while browse will give you a month by month list of entries. Mike

Could someone please tell me how to navigate through the lists of mailing lists at rootsweb to find the archives for the scotch-irish list? Under Scotland? or Ireland? Or some abbreviation that I can't quite figure out? Tracking the ancestry of Mathew Russell, arrived in PA about 1760 and said to be "Scotch-Irish." Thank you, Judy Russell Bogart, Georgia, USA

Hello, On other Lists this morning I have brought up the subject of my two KERR uncles who "firmly" believe that are Scots - mostly because they have a Scottish surname. But, as I've mentioned before*, my on-line research shows that their ancestors were in Sligo, Ireland, from at least the late 1700's. The KERR / HENDERSON "family group" which migrated to Canada in 1823 had their members born in Sligo from 1785 to 1805, so their parents must have been in Sligo from at least 1775-1780.** (So, my uncles are "far removed" from Scotland !) Several people have suggested that I get my uncles to have "DNA tests" to help determine where their ancestors came from. But, one uncle is around 80 and not in the best of health, and his younger brother is around 70, and estranged from half of the family. And, probably neither has the money to spend on such a project. But, the main reason I'm writing is that someone just wrote to offer me the URL for this web site: http://www.scotchirish.net/books.php4 and this page offers a list of books published on the subject of the Scotch-Irish. Seeing all the books mentioned gave me an idea. I'd like to buy them each a book and send it to them along with a "summary sheet" of my research on their family tree. (Also involves the HANNAH and RITCHIE ancestors who were also both in Ireland and Scotland.) I was wondering if someone could suggest which book would be best "light" reading for a "senior citizen" who should know more about his ancestors. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) *Sorry I haven't participated on the List lately. Once "spring sprung" in "New England," I became very busy with other activities. ** About two months ago, with the financial help of other researchers, I sent a "request for research" to the Sligo Heritage Centre - asking them to "attempt" to find out the names of the parents of the KERR and HENDERSON family-group, living there probably from 1780 to their departure in 1823. I have not received a response yet, but it is a volunteer organization, and I understand that research around 1800 is quite difficult. (Many people would also like to find out about "the families they left behind." So, if anyone else knows of KERR's or HENDERSON's in Sligo, Ireland, between 1810 and 1820, perhaps we could try to find out if they were related.) (Also cannot trace the HANNAH's and RITCHIE's before 1820. My ancestors were born in Donegal, Ireland, and married in Glasgow, Scotland, and came to Massachusetts in 1857. I know the names of their parents - but nothing else about them.)

Hello all, I tried to send this to the list last week on behalf of Books Ulster, but have been having some email problems. My apologies if you've already received this one. Mark ------------------------- "THE SCOT IN AMERICA AND THE ULSTER SCOT" - A 3RD CLASSIC "The Ulster-Scots Classics" is a new series of books from Books Ulster and the Ulster-Scots Academy. The third in the series, the renowned “The Scot in America and the Ulster Scot” by Whitelaw Reid (originally published in 1912) is once again available, in paperback. This has been a much sought after title for decades – now it can be yours for only £7.49  with postage, packaging and handling included. “We’re delighted with the response to the Ulster-Scots Classics”, says Derek Rowlinson of Books Ulster, “the first volume – ‘The Scot in Ulster’ has sold out, the second one ‘Sons of the Sod’ has sold very well and this is a superb third volume. It’s one of the most important Ulster-Scots books ever published so we’re delighted to be making it available to people again.” “Books Ulster is delighted once again to have had the assistance of Ards Borough Council with this volume, and the ongoing support of the key Ulster-Scots groups: the Ulster-Scots Academy, the Ulster-Scots Language Society and the Ulster-Scots Heritage Council.”   ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Whitelaw Reid (1837-1912) was one of the USA’ s foremost journalists and political figures. His grandfather emigrated from Ulster to the USA in the late 1700s. Reid ran as the Republican candidate for Vice President in 1892, alongside President Benjamin Harrison (Harrison was also of Ulster-Scots descent). “The Scot in America and the Ulster Scot” was published during Reid’s term as Ambassador to Britain from 1905 -1912. CONTENT: Nelson McCausland, Director of the Ulster-Scots Heritage Council, has written a detailed biography of Reid for the new edition, describing Reid’s Ulster-Scots roots, his glittering political and journalistic career and his achievements as US Ambassador to Britain. The biography has some wonderful illustrations of Reid and some of the key moments in his life.  “…Whitelaw Reid delivered a lecture on The Scot and Ulster Scot in America as the opening address of the season to the Edinburgh Philosophical Institution on 1 November 1911… the content and character of the Edinburgh lecture led to an invitation from the Presbyterian Historical Society to deliver a similar lecture in Belfast (Thursday 28th March 1912)… later that year the substance of the Edinburgh and Belfast addresses was published as The Scot in America and the Ulster-Scot..”.  The News Letter editorial of 29th March 1912 read as follows: “The lecture on ‘The Ulster Scot’ which Mr Whitelaw Reid delivered last night in the Assembly Hall afforded an intellectual treat to a very large audience. Originally delivered in Edinburgh, the scope of the lecture embraced the part which the Scot as well as the Ulster Scot played in the making of the great Republic of which Mr Whitelaw Reid is the distinguished representative at the Court of St James. The story unfolded was one calculated to give us a ‘guid conceit’ of ourselves, and we Ulster Scots are a modest people. All the same, it is matter of proper pride to us that those of our stock who went from Ulster to America in the seventeenth century proved themselves so worthy of the race from which they sprang. The race at home is still as virile as ever it was, still as passionately attached to the principles of civil and religious liberty, which the redemptorists of the seventeenth century carried with them to the other side of the Atlantic, and as determined to maintain them intact against every menace. The cover uses the famous American painting “Spirit of 1776”, encapsulating the Ulster contribution to the US War of Independence. As 2005 is the centenary of Whitelaw Reid’s appointment as US Ambassador to Britain it is fitting that this important publication should be reprinted this year. OTHER TITLES: Further titles in the series are being planned - if you wish to be informed of their release you can do so by subscribing to an email mailing list on the www.BooksUlster.com homepage. Some copies of “Sons of the Sod” are still available.  TO ORDER: “The Scot in America and the Ulster Scot”is an excellent third volume in the “Ulster-Scots Classics”series. It is written in an informative, yet easy to read style and will appeal to everyone interested in Ulster-Scots and local history, and is available now. To order your copy, visit www.booksulster.com or telephone Books Ulster on 028 9147 0310. -----------------------

The Banbridge and Dromore births have been updated on my website. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 10/05/05

Hello Listers. Something to aid your research: A further seven thousand passenger listings from the Port of Londonderry to various North American destinations have been added today to http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ua-free-pages.php This makes a total of almost twenty-one thousand 19th century individual passenger listings from Ulster ports covering a period 1811-1871 now available from the Free Pages section of the Ulster Ancestry site. I hope someone will find a lost relative (or two) among them! Good luck and good hunting www.ulsterancestry.com _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters