---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: sully@vnet.net Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:33:56 -0400 Subject: Scots-Irish Celebration August on PBS July 21, 2005 Dear Friends, WLIW New York Public Television is proud to announce the premiere of ON EAGLE'S WING, a celebration of the Scots-Irish journey to America, premiering this August on PBS (see listings below). A program description with song list follows below along with airdate information. I hope you will help us spread the word about this exciting new program, and let your friends, family and colleagues know about what we are doing to increase awareness of Scots-Irish history and culture. If you do not see an airdate for your market included please check with your local PBS station to see if they plan to air ON EAGLE'S WING. Be sure to let them know that there is a large Scots-Irish community out there to support the broadcast. Support of this program with a membership pledge will send a strong message to public television programmers and producers across the country - it may help get the special distributed to PBS stations that haven't yet committed to airing it, and could lead to production of additional programs by WLIW New York further exploring the Scots-Irish legacy. The DVD or VHS of the special, with bonus material that won't be broadcast, is available as a "thank you" gift for a donation of $100 as a fundraiser for Scots-Irish cultural programming on public television. In addition, WLIW's latest aerial production, VISIONS OF SCOTLAND, will air nationally on PBS this August. VISIONS OF SCOTLAND provides a thrilling tour of the country's historic and picturesque destinations. For more information on this program please see the release below. If you would like copies of the ON EAGLE'S WING promotional flier to distribute to members of any organizations you belong to, please reply to this email or call me at 212.560.8824. If you are affiliated with a media outlet, please let me know if you would like a preview copy of the program. Feel free to share this information with anyone you think will be interested that I may have missed. We look forward to hearing the community response about this landmark Scots-Irish musical production. Thank you in advance to those who can help us promote this premiere. If you would like to be removed from this email list for future information, please reply to sender. Sincerely, Natasha Padilla Communications Assistant WLIW New York Tel: 212.560.8824 Email: PadillaN@wliw.org Web: www.wliw.org ON EAGLE'S WING PROGRAM DESCRIPTION: ON EAGLE'S WING explores the heritage and history of the Scots-Irish in a breathtaking original musical production that debuted at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast in 2004 as the largest musical theatrical stage production in the world. Irish recording artist Peter Corry (best known as "Javert" in Les Miserables) leads a cast of actors, dancers, choirs, bands, pipes, fifes, drums, and full orchestra. The compelling story is set in both the past and the present, but the themes are timeless and universal - emigration, separation, love and loyalty. The soundtrack is almost exclusively original music by John Anderson. The Scots-Irish helped define working class America as our country developed. Country Music, NASCAR racing, and more than ¼ of America's presidents trace their roots to the Scots-Irish, and more Americans than ever are identifying themselves as Scots-Irish with the Census Bureau. Today, there are more than 22 million people in the United States who are of Scots-Irish descent, but many only know their heritage through their surname. ON EAGLE'S WING tells their story in a celebration that is innovative and spectacular in its presentation. ON EAGLE'S WING is a parallel of modern day and historic events. The show opens in modern America starting with the anthem "Do You Know Who You Are?," inspiring a look back into the past to see the echoes of history in modern actions. Starting in Scotland and continuing through Ireland and America, spanning 500 years in song and dance, the show weaves historical re-enactments throughout the musical drama. The show gets its name from the first immigrant vessel out of Ireland to the U.S., called "Eagle's Wing." Jimmy Carter, himself one of 17 U.S. Presidents of Scots-Irish descent, said about the stage show taped in Belfast last year, "Just as Riverdance was successful in portraying Irish culture through music and dance, so will On Eagle's Wing facilitate a better appreciation for the story of the Scots-Irish." A production of WLIW New York and Straight Forward Productions, Ltd. Conceived and Written by John Anderson. Executive Producer for WLIW New York: Roy A. Hammond. Executive Producers for Straight Forward Productions, Ltd.: Ian S. Kennedy and John Nicholson. This program made possible in part by Tourism Ireland. WLIW New York is the fourth most-watched public television station in the United States, with an average weekly cumulative audience of nearly two million households in the New York metropolitan area. As a resource for public television stations, WLIW distributes live daily broadcasts of BBC World News, and is the producer of PBS specials including the VISIONS aerial series, cultural documentaries celebrating the cultural diversity of America, and music specials. For more information, visit www.wliw.org. ON EAGLE'S WING SONG LIST (in order of appearance): Title - Performers Do You Know Who You Are? - Peter Corry, Marty McGuire, B.J. Hogg, George Jones, Alyth McCormack Lament: Uisge Domhain (A Deeper Well) - Alyth McCormack A Better Place - Peter Corry, Cast & Choir Thank You, Sir - Alyth McCormack, Marty McGuire, B.J. Hogg, George Jones Shut Those Gates - Full Company Love Goes With You - Alyth McCormack, Peter Corry Shout My Name - Peter Corry, Choir Deep River, Shenandoah - Peter Corry, Choir I'm Older Now, Are You? - Peter Corry Bonnie Lad - Alyth McCormack, Abigail Williams A Deeper Well (Reprise) - Peter Corry, Choir Anthem - Full Company Where Was Your Life - B. J. Hogg Where Eagles Fly - Peter Corry, Alyth McCormack, Choir Line Dance - Full Company Where Eagles Fly (Reprise) - Peter Corry, Alyth McCormack, Choir ON EAGLE'S WING AIRDATE INFO: In Chronological Order (reported as of 7/20/05) If you don't see your city, call your local PBS station or visit http://www.pbs.org/stationfinder. STATION CITY, STATE AIR DATE PBSHawaii/11 Honolulu, HI Sat., 8/6 @ 6 PM KQED/9 San Francisco, CA Sat., 8/6 @ 6 PM Sun., 8/7 @ 8 PM KAET/8 Tempe, AZ Sat., 8/6 @ 7 PM WJCT/7 Jacksonville, FL Sun., 8/7 @ 2 PM WGBH/2 Boston, MA Sun., 8/7@ 4:30 PM KOCE/50 Huntington Beach, CA Sun., 8/7 @ 5:30 PM WYIN/PBS56 Merrillville, IN Sun., 8/7 @ 5:30 PM KPTS/8 Wichita, KS Sun., 8/7 @ 5:30 PM KBTC/28 Tacoma, WA Sun., 8/7 @ 7 PM KCKA/15 Centralia, WA Sun., 8/7 @ 7 PM APT|Alabama Public Television/26 Birmingham, AL Sun., 8/7 @ 7 PM Thu., 8/25 @ 7 PM KSPS/7 Spokane, WA Sun., 8/7 @ 8 PM Fri., 8/12 @ 9 PM Ozarks Public Television: KOZK/21 & Springfield, MO Sun., 8/7 @ 9:30 PM KOZJ/26 Joplin, MO Sun., 8/7 @ 9:30 PM WETA/26 Arlington, VA Sun., 8/7 @ 10 PM KTXT/5 Lubbock, TX Sun., 8/7 @ 8:30 PM WLIW/21 New York, NY Mon., 8/8 @ 8 PM Blue Ridge Public Television: Tues., 8/9 @ 8 PM WBRA/15 Roanoke, VA Tues., 8/9 @ 8 PM WMSY/52 Marion, VA Tues., 8/9 @ 8 PM WSBN/47 Norton, VA Tues., 8/9 @ 8 PM WUFT/5 Gainesville, FL Tues., 8/9 @ 8 PM NHPTV|New Hampshire Public Television/11 Durham, NH Tues., 8/9 @ 7:30 PM WPBT/2 Miami, FL Wed., 8/10 @ 8 PM KVIE/6 Sacramento, CA Wed., 8/10 @ 8 PM KERA/13 Dallas, TX Wed., 8/10 @ 9 PM KRWG/22 Las Cruces, NM Wed., 8/10 @ 9:30 PM KBYU/11 Provo, UT Wed., 8/10 KRCB/22 Rohnert, CA Thu., 8/11 @ 7 PM WGTV|Georgia Public Broadcasting/8 Atlanta, GA Thu., 8/11 @ 8 PM OETA|The Oklahoma Network/11 Oklahoma City, OK Thu., 8/11 @ 9 PM WXEL/42 Boynton Beach, FL Thu., 8/11 @ 9 PM Mon., 8/15 @ 8 PM WGBX/44 Boston, MA Sat., 8/13 @ 3 PM WHYY/12 Philadelphia, PA Sun., 8/14 @ 2:30 PM WLJT/11 Martin, TN Sun., 8/14 @ 8:30 PM WVIZ/PBS25 Cleveland, OH Tues., 8/16 @ 8 PM WTTW/11 Chicago, IL Wed., 8/17 @ 7:30 SHPTV|Smoky Hills Public Television/9 Bunker Hill, KS Sun., 8/21 @ 8 PM Mon., 8/22 @ 7 PM TPT|Twin Cities Public Television: St. Paul, MN Mon., 8/22 @ 8:30 PM KTCA/2 St. Paul, MN Mon., 8/22 @ 8:30 PM KTCI/17 St. Paul, MN Mon., 8/22 @ 8:30 PM WTIU/30 Bloomington, IN Wed. 8/31 @ 8 PM Mon. 9/5 @ 10:30 PM WPSX/3 University Park, PA Thu., 9/8 @ 8 PM Sat. 9/17 @ 5 PM WNIN/9 Evansville, IN tentative: Tue., 9/13 @ 7 PM **Reply to sender if you would like to receive the airdate info as an MS Word document. VISIONS OF SCOTLAND PROGRAM DESCRIPTION: VISIONS OF SCOTLAND is a thrilling tour of Scotland's historic and picturesque destinations from the heather-clad hills of the Highlands to the low-lying borderlands, shot in high definition from a helicopter-mounted camera and set to regional music with informative narration. Starting in the south at Selkirk, once host to a revolutionary army but now the picture of tranquility, VISIONS OF SCOTLAND explores the complexity of the country's geography and history from a new perspective. In the popular destination capital at Edinburgh dramatically set on a series of volcanic eruptions, viewers trace the royal mile of restored buildings recreating the city's medieval beauty, climb the 287 steps of the memorial to Sir Walter Scott (Rob Roy, The Bride of Lamamoor) without catching their breath, and experience the romance of castles and fortresses. The aerial view offers an unprecedented angle from which to search the mysterious deeps of the Loch Ness, and the lush greens at St. Andrews golf course where the game began are seen from above the sightline of the longest drive. This journey through great glens, stunning waterways, sacred abbeys, hardy fishing ports and craggy heights showcases a bright, legendary land like never before. WLIW New York's popular VISIONS series also includes VISIONS OF ITALY, VISIONS OF GREECE, VISIONS OF ENGLAND, and VISIONS OF GERMANY. Produced by WLIW New York. Executive Producer/Aerial Director: Roy A. Hammond; Producer/Writer: Sam Toperoff; Camera Operator: Grant Bieman. WLIW New York is the fourth most-watched public television station in the United States, with an average weekly cumulative audience of nearly two million households in the New York metropolitan area. As a resource for public television stations, WLIW distributes live daily broadcasts of BBC World News, and is the producer of PBS specials including the VISIONS aerial series, cultural documentaries celebrating the cultural diversity of America, and music specials. For more information, visit www.wliw.org. VISIONS OF SCOTLAND LOCATIONS: ACT 1 Selkirk Edinburgh Castle Rock Royal Mile Calton Hill Princes Hill Royal Palace Holy Rood Abbey Dunfermline Abbey St. Andrews St. Regulue Royal & Ancient Golf Club Gold Course Hotel Perth Tay River Dundee Scone Palace Glamis Castle Crathes Castle Drum Castle Grampian Mountains ACT 2 Loch Tay Loch Ness Uruqhart Castle Caledonian Canal Inverness Craoghhaven Sound of Kira Dilean Musdile Island Isle of Mull Duart Castle Tarosay Castle Oban McCaig's Tower Crarae Garden Inveraray Inveraray Goal Clan Campbell Castle ACT 3 Stirling National Wallace Monument Stirling Castle Argylle's Lodging Doune Doune CastleDumbarton Rock River Clyde Estuary Glasgow George Square Glasgow Infirmary Glasgow Cathedral (15th century) Glasgow Green People's Palace Ranger Stadium Glasgow University, Old College Kelingrove Museum Scottish Exhibition Centre Call your local PBS station for airdates or visit http://www.pbs.org/stationfinder. ### ==== APG Mailing List ==== The Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org/publications/apg-l/index.html ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi folks For information - the Eaglewing was the ship built by Ulster Covenanters in 1636 to go to America. Unfortunately they met with severe storms and were forced to return to Ulster, deeming it God`s will. The name is taken from Exodus 19.4 " Ye have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles wings and brought you unto myself." Brian Orr brian@orrnamestudy.com

The PBS affiliate in Atlanta has advertised the program "On Eagle's Wing" to be shown August 11. Is it coming to a PBS affiliate near you? There are two programs that were shown in Northern Ireland - a telecast of the musical and an historical documentary by Moore Sinnerson - with that title.

Don't profess to know anything about the Colonial experience, and it might be a good article in that context. However the Church history is not very good. A simple example, the Church of Knox was not Presbyterian, and the reason why Irish Presbyterianism was different from the Church of Scotland up to 1638 was that the Church of Scotland was Episcopalian, while Irish Presbyterianism had imported a number of ideas from the (also Calvinist English Independents). The analysis of the situation of the pre Reformation Church is also rather deficient As I say, the Colonial period might be OK, it's not my thing, but I think that I would fail the bit about Southern Scotland in the 16th Century if it were an undergraduate essay. Edward Andrews -----Original Message----- From: Alan [mailto:alan@ulster-scots.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:39 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] The Migration of the Scots-Irish to Southwestern NC Good article at the link below *The Migration of the Scots-Irish to Southwestern NC http://www.scottishtartans.org/ulster.html **by Matthew A. C. Newsome, curator of the Scottish Tartans Museum * ©2001 Matt Newsome mirrored at albanach.org/ulster.html <http://albanach.org/ulster.html> / for information on reproducing this article, please contact the author/ *Southern Scotland in the 16th Century * To follow the route of the Scots-Irish people, we must look at the path taken by their church, the Presbyterian Church. And to better understand the culture and mind set of these immigrants, we must be aware of the history of their church. Scotland was first Christianized in the 5th and 6th centuries by great men of the church such as St. Columba, St. Kintigern, St. Ninian, etc. It was part of the Catholic Church for its entire Christian history up until the turbulent times of the 1500s. While the Reformation swept Europe and Protestantism took hold in England, there was initially very little support for Protestantism in Scotland. The Auld Alliance with France was still strong, and France was a very Catholic nation. This alliance was seen by many Scottish nobles as an unbalanced one, and it was a thorn in the side of the English, as we shall see later. When one reads of the Reformation in Scotland, the common complaints against the Church are that it was overly rich in its lands and overly corrupt in its clergy. To have a balanced look, one must also consider that this is the church whose many religious orders in Scotland had no property, owned no land, and subsisted on donations only. *edited*** *Bibliography * Blethen, H. Tyler and Curtis W. Wood Jr. /From Ulster to Carolina: The Migration of the Scotch-Irish to Southwestern North Carolina./ NC Dept of Cultural Resources Division of Archives and History. Raleigh, NC: 1998. Carroll, Warren H. /The Cleaving of Christendom: A History of Christendom Vol. 4. / Christendom Press. Front Royal, VA: 2000. Kennedy, Billy. /The Scots-Irish in the Carolinas/. Causway Press. Greenville, SC: 1997. Leyburn, James G. /The Scotch-Irish: A Social History/. University of NC Press. Chapel Hill, NC. 1962. All material on this site ©1994-2005 Scottish Tartans Museum 86 East Main St. * Franklin NC 29734 * (828)524-7472 * tartans@scottishtartans.org <mailto:tartans@scottishtartans.org> -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

Good article at the link below *The Migration of the Scots-Irish to Southwestern NC http://www.scottishtartans.org/ulster.html **by Matthew A. C. Newsome, curator of the Scottish Tartans Museum * ©2001 Matt Newsome mirrored at albanach.org/ulster.html <http://albanach.org/ulster.html> / for information on reproducing this article, please contact the author/ *Southern Scotland in the 16th Century * To follow the route of the Scots-Irish people, we must look at the path taken by their church, the Presbyterian Church. And to better understand the culture and mind set of these immigrants, we must be aware of the history of their church. Scotland was first Christianized in the 5th and 6th centuries by great men of the church such as St. Columba, St. Kintigern, St. Ninian, etc. It was part of the Catholic Church for its entire Christian history up until the turbulent times of the 1500s. While the Reformation swept Europe and Protestantism took hold in England, there was initially very little support for Protestantism in Scotland. The Auld Alliance with France was still strong, and France was a very Catholic nation. This alliance was seen by many Scottish nobles as an unbalanced one, and it was a thorn in the side of the English, as we shall see later. When one reads of the Reformation in Scotland, the common complaints against the Church are that it was overly rich in its lands and overly corrupt in its clergy. To have a balanced look, one must also consider that this is the church whose many religious orders in Scotland had no property, owned no land, and subsisted on donations only. *edited*** *Bibliography * Blethen, H. Tyler and Curtis W. Wood Jr. /From Ulster to Carolina: The Migration of the Scotch-Irish to Southwestern North Carolina./ NC Dept of Cultural Resources Division of Archives and History. Raleigh, NC: 1998. Carroll, Warren H. /The Cleaving of Christendom: A History of Christendom Vol. 4. / Christendom Press. Front Royal, VA: 2000. Kennedy, Billy. /The Scots-Irish in the Carolinas/. Causway Press. Greenville, SC: 1997. Leyburn, James G. /The Scotch-Irish: A Social History/. University of NC Press. Chapel Hill, NC. 1962. All material on this site ©1994-2005 Scottish Tartans Museum 86 East Main St. * Franklin NC 29734 * (828)524-7472 * tartans@scottishtartans.org <mailto:tartans@scottishtartans.org> -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up -- Faugh A Ballagh Lámh Dhearg Abú *Tha Hamely Tongue:-* Houl yer whist - keep quiet / don`t butt in Ye hallion - you tearaway Skreigh o day - crack of dawn / day Scundered - fed up <http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=7520&page=1>

Hi Linda... and all listers! I wanted to let you all know that there is still space available for the fall genealogy tour to N.Ireland and Ireland. It will be a small group ( no more than 12) and highly personalized research, with Nancy Bier of the BIFHS leading the group. Those without research in each place, will be touring daily and seeing the sites. Non-researching spouses welcomed and invited to come... even the golfers! There is much to see and do! Areas of interest and heavy research on this trip so far are in counties, Antrim, Mayo and Down. We will be traveling to the south as well for research and touring. Please join us! We have exciting things planned from local historians lectures, walking tours and time in all the major repositories. Also, a small group is forming after the tour to go to Scotland for a few days research. Please inquire if intersted. Please contact me at the number below or go to my website for information and inquiries. Applications will be sent by email or snail mail. Whichever is preffered. Ginger Aarons, CTC Time Travel P.O. Box 23908 Portland, OR 97281-3908 503-590-7127 tollfree and fax 877-787-7807 cell 503-421-0029 www.timetraveltours.com

Never mind!! I found it googling!! Barbara --- Barbara Braswell <barb_braswell@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find information on > the > questions that were asked on the 1841 and 1851 > Census > in Ireland? Is it possible that they asked about > children born to a couple that were dead? I have > come > across data given on the Old Age Pension > applications > that seem to indicate this was one of the queries. > > Thank you. > Barbara Braswell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Does anyone know where I might find information on the questions that were asked on the 1841 and 1851 Census in Ireland? Is it possible that they asked about children born to a couple that were dead? I have come across data given on the Old Age Pension applications that seem to indicate this was one of the queries. Thank you. Barbara Braswell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Ron, Check out our webpages at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle . The purpose is to help you do this research. You don't have much information to help someone else, who has already done the research, to connect to you. Plus, if no one has researched the family then unless you do DNA testing of all the Hamilitons in Ulster, you or someone has to do the research. This sucks -- it's my situation too. A zillion years of trolling on the Internet did not produce many cousins who had the answer. So I had to learn to do it. Really important for you do do besides buying some books on Irish genealogy and reading them is to study the free courses on immigration reserach at htt://genealogy.com/university.html . You also need to keep in mind that research in Ireland before church records (aboue 1825 or so) is considered IMPOSSIBLE (unless your ancestors include the Earl of Antrim <grin>). This is because Irish genealogical courses address themselves to the majority of Irish peole who were poor Catholics. It is not impossible to trace many Protestants, but it's DURN HARD. So we gotta learn a lot and get lucky as well. As you say you have done a bangup job on the US side, the course above will teach y ou to utilize that info to forward your Irish research. Watching Profiler on TV will help too. I'm serious. Profiling these folks WORKS. When you go to do Scottish genealogy, you will have to learn how to do it. Scottish records are different from Irish and the situation in both countries are different from the USA. Anytime you change the country or the time (19th century research is different from 18th, because the records are different), you must learn what is different as well as standard methodologies known to all who study that will result in success. Often amateurs don't bother to learn what these standard methodologies are so of course they don't have a lot of success any more than a carpenter cna succeed at brain surgery without additional training. Luckily thee are plenty of good books on h ow to do this research now. Didn't used to be that way. Best of luck! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: VistaRon96@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:51:50 EDT >Greetings List, >I am looking for a needle in a haystack. >unknown HAMILTON born ca. 1800 Scotland, emigrated to Ireland, married an >unknown Irish woman. They're son John (William) was born in 1831, Unknown, >Ireland. He married 21 Mar 1858 in Jamestown, Grant Co., Wisconsin, USA. He is my >G-Grandfather. I know everything after that. >Any help with information in Ireland and Scotland would be greatly >appreciated. > >Ron HABEL >Vista, CA, USA > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hello Ron, Lots of Hamiltons in County Tyrone where the Marquis of Abercorn, who owned 2000 acres around Strabane, was a Hamilton and some of his brothers went to Ireland with him. Try a search at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/index1.html and try the archives of the Tyrone mailing list at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html I posted a couple of pieces on researching in Ireland a couple of months ago so look through the archives of this site at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/Scotch-Irish.html Probably the best Scottish site is www.electricscotland.com Rob Doragh Liverpool UK VistaRon96@aol.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Surname researching Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 looking for needle in a haystack. unknown HAMILTON bc1800 Scotland, emigrated to Ireland, m unknown Irish woman. son John (William) b1831, Unknown, Ireland. m 21 Mar 1858 in Jamestown, Grant Co., Wisconsin, USA. He is my G-Grandfather. I know everything after that. Any help with information in Ireland and Scotland would be greatly appreciated. Ron HABEL Vista, CA, USA

Greetings List, I am looking for a needle in a haystack. unknown HAMILTON born ca. 1800 Scotland, emigrated to Ireland, married an unknown Irish woman. They're son John (William) was born in 1831, Unknown, Ireland. He married 21 Mar 1858 in Jamestown, Grant Co., Wisconsin, USA. He is my G-Grandfather. I know everything after that. Any help with information in Ireland and Scotland would be greatly appreciated. Ron HABEL Vista, CA, USA

Dwyer, Mary born 1833 Edinburgh Scotland married 1853 to Hyland, John born 1833 in or near Dublin Ireland. Married Stepney London Middlesex Ireland came to the US resode 1860 Bloomington McLean Co IL, then to Woodson Co KS in 1870-71, she died circa 1872-1877, he died 1878 as a widower leaving 6 children 18-6 years of age. Any one can help me would be appreciated Thanks in advance. Ms. Coleen Coleman wyoeagle@webtv.net

Hello list - My first email to the list--my g-g-grandfather, George Sellers, lived in Middletown, Dauphin Co., PA with his wife Margaret Wilson Sellers and children during the early 1800's. George died abt 1834 in Middletown, and I believe he was buried in the Middletown cemetery. I'm unable to verify that belief. I know that Margaret and the children left Middletown in 1835 and moved West to Hollidaysburg, Huntingdon Co.(now Blair Co.), PA. I have verified that Margaret was born in 1800, but have no clue as to the birth year of George. Nor do I have any information about George's parents. In "The Chronicles of Middletown" , George's name appears as a member of a local group who were among the "Scotch-Irish" settlers. I would be most appreciative for any information from list members pertaining to this family. Thank you. Carl Sellers

Interested in corresponding with descendants of settlers in Blandford MA 1740-1820. lila25@Juno.com

Just a few words to say "hello all" and to list some of my genealogical interests. They are relatively strictly North Antrim related. My grandfather's lot was MANN of the Portrush area and my grandmother's lot was CHESTNUT of the Ballymoney/Bushmills/Dervock/Mosside areas. My PARKES lot are direct immigrants from the midlands of England. There are web pages at http://www.parkesfamily.btinternet.co.uk/ I think that there are some on this list who have an interest in the emigrations from here in the 1760s and 1770s. Unfortunately, very few 'official' records of genealogical value exist from that time. I have made a start on the re-ordering of family names found in the 1740 lists of Protestant householders. The names (in alphabetical order) for the North Antrim parishes of Ballywillan, Ballyrashane, Dunluce, Billy, Ballintoy, Derrykeighan, Ballymoney and Kilraghts can be found at http://www.parkesfamily.btinternet.co.uk/1740nameorder.txt The lists were kindly checked for errors by international friends. I suggest that those list members who have an interest in this data take a copy of the file for use in off-line mode. I would be interested to learn if there ary any good correlations between ships' lists or arrivals' lists of immigrants and names in the 1740 "census". I should mention that advertisements for passengers on the 1760s and 1770s emigrant ships were placed in the "Belfast Newsletter" and would have been widely available in the north of Ireland. Norman

Hi Listers, Can anyone help this person, who is not on the Scotch-Irish list. She sent an email to the admin account of a dead list I started for the descendents of MY John Anderson (there were a lot about). Mine is here: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Family/index.htm (SPLAT!). The extensive tree there is from a distant cuzzin, now long dead. She of course didn't document any sources, but it's still intresting stuff. I invited her to join. Until she does, respond to her directly: cardinal201@msn.com I don't seem to have any Henry Andersons. That I know of. Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "John Hooker" <cardinal201@msn.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:21:19 -0600 Hi list, This is my first contact with the list. I have a will of Henry Anderson that I am trying to find more information on. It mentions wife Ann. Sister in Ireland married name Mary Disert and two children. Brother Thomas and three children in Ireland. Wm. Anderson, oldest son of my kinsman Oliver Anderson, second son Henry and daughter Jinil. Brother John's children: Allen,Elizabeth,John, Rebecca. ( In PA.) Does any of this connect with your family? My search is for Isaac Fulton mentioned in this will. Does anyone know the wife Ann's maiden name? Any information appreciated. Shirley H. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi folks Just started into the settlement of Derry - Londonderry and thought the 1622 Muster Roll might be of interest to some of you. Enjoy Brian Orr brian@orrnamestudy.com Persons mustered at Londonderry in 1622 by Sir Thomas Phillips and Richard Hadson, the Kings Commissioners. Listed in The Annals of Derry" by Robert Simpson, Hempton, Londonderry 1847. Reprinted North West Books, Limavady, 1987. ISBN 0-907528-09-0. Item: Corslet - armour that covers the body. Muskets cont. Mr Mayor 2 Mr Simon Pitt 1 Mr Wraye 1 Mr Robert Bives 1 Mr Winslow 1 John Seach 1 Mr Hugh Thompson 1 Richard Wilson 1 Mr Russell 1 John Knealand 1 Christopher Gifford 1 Leonard Davis 1 William Cottismore 1 Francis Dolloway 1 Mr Goodwin`s man 1 A servant 1 Mr Steele 1 Richard Bingley 1 Nicholas Baily 1 James Stewart 1 Walter Tuckey 1 Thomas Blany 1 Edmond Glover 1 John Eawke 1 John Freewen 1 Stephen Godfrey 1 Mr Brute Hamond 1 Richard Sadler 1 George Newton 1 William Cooke 1 George Downing 1 Timothey Poolie 1 William Haile 1 Nicholas Blany 1 Thomas Sherrington 1 Richard Percy 1 Robert Shawe 1 Henry Addison 1 Donnell M`Cacles 1 Item: Muskets Ermine M`Swine 1 Mr Wray`s servant 1 Richard Stock 1 Mr Goodwin`s man 1 John Enickson 1 Richard Jones 1 George Clave 1 One servant 1 Robert Thompson 1 Richard Mutterwell 1 John Cooke 1 Thomas Hamond 1 Roger Kirke 1 His two servants 1 Donnell M`Keroge 1 Isaak Smith 1 John Wallace 1 William Simple 1 John Palmer 1 Henry Dunkin 1 Mr Carridge,3 servants 1 Adam Moderwell 1 John Bradin 1 John Woldridge,younger 1 Thomas Span 1 Anthony Bowen 1 John Woldridge,elder 1 T. Sherrington,soldier 1 William Briders 1 James O`Dogherty 1 Thomas Woodney 1 Robert M`Conoghie 1 Mr Russell`s man 1 Robert bartlet 1 John Patt 1 Item: Caliver - a mounted swivel gun Item: Peece - a cannon One of Mr Sheri`s men 1 Mr Sheriffe Smith 1 John M`Mish 1 John Smith 1 Item Halberts - combined spear and battle axe. Mr Sheriffe`s servant 1 Mr Alderman Ball 1 Mr Godwin 1 Mr Dawson 1 Thomas Yarborrowe 1 Henry Scollech 1 Christopher Studdall 1 Edward Blundell 1 Ninian English 1 Mr Castell 1 Mr Brute Hamond`s man 1 Richard Apleton 1 Mr lond, a soldier 1 Michael Gravell 1 John Palmer`s servant 1 Serjeant Richardson 1 William Wells 1 Thomas Brooke 1 Thomas Baker 1 Thomas Vale 1 Edward Chambers 1 Item: Brownbills- a form of Halberd Item: Swords George Sandech 1 George Mnophey 1 Peter Shenington 1 Thomas Sherington 1 Mr Haile 1 John Cottismore. 1 NOTE: The early settlers of Derry under Sir Henry Docwra were essentially English, but some Scots were in the locality of Rathmelton and Raphoe who traded in the City. The population gradually became a mix of English and Scots. No native Irish were allowed in the city after 1615 until after the Restoration of Charles II in 1660

Thank you for this Brian. I think that it is important that if people are going to be looking at the early plantation that they are aware of the ambivalent relationships between the various components of James' Kingdom. (and in fact throughout the entire Stewart monarchy) This lasted right up until 1707 for Scotland and 1801 for Scotland. Perhaps the most remembered example of one part of the Kingdom screwing the other was when William III played a not unimportant part in the destruction of the Scottish Darian Adventure. The books which you mention (Which are all very good) have all been republished. Robinson in 2000 by the Ulster Historical Foundation ISBN 0-903688-00-0. Percival Maxwell, RKP for the Ulster-Scot Historical Foundation, 1990, ISBN 0-901915445. Dickson ([New ed.] / with a new introduction by G.E. Kirkham, Ulster Historical Foundation, 2001 ISBN 0901905128. As my Dickson is a signed copy I don't think that I'll be trading up Edward -----Original Message----- From: Brian Orr [mailto:brian@orrnamestudy.com] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:31 AM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Web site - www.irishgenealogy.com Edward, I thought I would put this into general list correspondence as it expands on the basics of the Plantation Hi folks. Yes Edward, you are correct of course. Not that the English Parliament/Privy Council were that convinced of the merits or rights of anyone else eg trade bans on Scottish produce and subsequently also in Ulster. It is an interesting point if decisions by the English Parliament were binding on Scotland. I think not until 1707. That's enough for now. Real detail BUT NOT THE NAMES OF SETTLERS can be found in "The Planatation of Ulster" by Philip Robinson , Gill & McMillan, 1984. ISBN 0-901905-62-3 - this is serious stuff, but very good. If you are looking for some other sound reading there is an excellent book (apart from my own of course !!) - "The Scottish Migration to Ulster in the Reign of James I" by M. Percival Maxwell, Pub. Routledge, Keegan , Paul, 1973. ISBN0-901905-44-5. A complementary book is "Ulster Emigration to Colonial America 1718-1775" Ed R.J Dickson Pub, RKP, 1966. ISBN 901-905-17-8. Phew ! Brian Orr brian@orrnamestudy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Andrews To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Web site - www.irishgenealogy.com

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Hi Folks I though I had better explain denization, which is simply the granting a person the rights of citizenship, this was done by a letter patent signed by the King. Knowing of your keen desire for names, below is a list of Scots who were granted denizenship in 1617 . Extracted from the Montgomery Manuscripts and the Calendar of Patent Rolls. Be lucky. Brian Orr Gilbert Adare of Ardehine Uthred M'Dowgall of Ballimaconnell Andrew Agnewe of Carnie David M`Illveyne of Ballelogan Thomas Agnew of Grayabbey James McMakene of Donaghdie John Aickin of Donaghdie John Marten of Dunnevilly Patrick Allan of Ballydonane J ames Maxwell of Gransho David Anderson of Castlecanvarie John Maxwell of Ballihalbert John Barkley of Ballyrolly Hugh Montgomery of Granshaghe Robert Boyle of Drumfad John Montgomery of Ballymacrosse David Boyde of Glasroche John Montgomery of the Redene Thomas Boyde of Crownerston Matthew Montgomery of Donoghdie Nynnan Bracklie,Newton of Donghadie Patrick Montgomerie of Ballycreboy William Caderwood of Ballyfrenzeis William Montgomery of Donoghdie James Cathcart of Ballirogane Robert Montgomery of Donoghdie Claud.Conyngham of Donoghdie Hector Moore of Donan James Cowper of Ballichosta John Moore of Donaghdie Michael Craig of the Redene Quintene Moore of Aughneill William Crawford of Cuningburn William Moore of Milntowne John Cuningham of Rinchrivie William Moore preacher at Newton David Cunyngham of Drumfad John Mowlen of Crownerston Hugh Cunyngham of Castlespick Thomas Nevin of Ballicopland William Cuninghame of Donoghdie John Peacocke of Ballidonan Charles Domelston of Proveston Andrew Sempill of Ballygrenie John Fraser of Donaghdie Patrick Shaw of Balliwalter John Harper of Ballyhay William Shaw of Ballykilconan John Harperof Donaghdie Alexander Speire of Gray Abbey. Robert Harper of Provostoun John Thompson of Blackabbey Thomas Harvie of Newton Robert Wilson of Newtowne William Hunter of Donan James Williamson of Clay Thomas Kelso of Ballyhacamore Allen Wilson of Newton David Kennedy of Gortivillan John Wyly of Ballyhay Walter Logane of Proveston William Wymis of Newtowne