Another marriage from the Ulster Historical Foundations database: http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk/ Type Civil Marriages Date Of Marriage 11/02/1855 Husband Firstname DAVID Husband Surname MINNIS Husband Townland / Street CULUINTRA Husband Occupation LABOURER Husband Age FA Husband Denomination Presbyterian Husband Marital Status Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Husband Father Firstname GEORGE Husband Father Surname MINNIS Husband Father Occupation LABOURER Husband Mother Firstname Husband Mother Surname Husband Witness Firstname THOMAS Husband Witness Surname BROWN Wife Firstname ELIZABETH Wife Surname MUNN Wife Townland / Street COMBER Wife Occupation Wife Age FA Wife Denomination Presbyterian Wife Marital Status Spinster (Previously unmarried) Wife Father Firstname JOHN Wife Father Surname MUNN Wife Father Occupation FARMER Wife Mother Firstname Wife Mother Surname Wife Witness Firstname JANE Wife Witness Surname MUNN Denomination Comment BY LICENCE REV J M KILLEN. Street COMBER 1ST Presbyterian Town ARDS Area COMBER County CO DOWN -- Sandra L. More more@unr.nevada.edu sandramore@sbcglobal.net -------------------------------------------- Be persuaded that your only treasures are those which you carry in your heart. - Demophilus

Another marriage record from the Ulster Historical Society's BMD database: http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk/ Type Civil Marriages Date Of Marriage 25/01/1921 Husband Firstname DAVID Husband Surname MINNIS Husband Townland / Street 29 DELPHIA ST Husband Occupation JOINER Husband Age FA Husband Denomination Church of Ireland Husband Marital Status Widower (Male) Husband Father Firstname HUGH Husband Father Surname MINNIS Husband Father Occupation FARMER Husband Mother Firstname Husband Mother Surname Husband Witness Firstname WILLIAM ALEXANDER Husband Witness Surname MONTGOMERY Wife Firstname MARGARET Wife Surname ALLAN Wife Townland / Street 128 ORMEAU RD Wife Occupation BAKER Wife Age FA Wife Denomination Church of Ireland Wife Marital Status Widow (Female) Wife Father Firstname DAVID Wife Father Surname LONG Wife Father Occupation BOOK KEEPER Wife Mother Firstname Wife Mother Surname Wife Witness Firstname REBECCA Wife Witness Surname MONTGOMERY Denomination Comment BY LICENCE REV G R C OLDEN. Street ST ANNE'S Church of Ireland Town BELFAST Area SHANKILL County CO ANTRIM -- Sandra L. More more@unr.nevada.edu sandramore@sbcglobal.net -------------------------------------------- Be persuaded that your only treasures are those which you carry in your heart. - Demophilus

Here is a marriage record I found while looking for my own Minnis family member. Hope it helps someone. The information came from the Ulster Historical Foundations website: http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk/ I figure if I'm going to pay them to look at 5 records, someone might as well get use out of the ones that don't help me. Good luck! Sandra ---------------- Type Civil Marriages Date Of Marriage 20/03/1882 Husband Firstname DAVID Husband Surname MINNIS Husband Townland / Street BELFAST Husband Occupation COACH DRIVER Husband Age FA Husband Denomination Church of Ireland Husband Marital Status Widower (Male) Husband Father Firstname GEORGE Husband Father Surname MINNIS Husband Father Occupation FARMER Husband Mother Firstname Husband Mother Surname Husband Witness Firstname MARGARET Husband Witness Surname BROWN Wife Firstname MARGARET Wife Surname DIXON Wife Townland / Street BELFAST Wife Occupation Wife Age FA Wife Denomination Church of Ireland Wife Marital Status Widow (Female) Wife Father Firstname WILLIAM Wife Father Surname BRYANS Wife Father Occupation CARPENTER Wife Mother Firstname Wife Mother Surname Wife Witness Firstname ALEXANDER Wife Witness Surname JOHNSTON Denomination Comment BY LICENCE REV J H DEACON. Street TRINITY BELFAST Church of Ireland Town BELFAST Area SHANKILL County CO ANTRIM -- Sandra L. More more@unr.nevada.edu sandramore@sbcglobal.net -------------------------------------------- Be persuaded that your only treasures are those which you carry in your heart. - Demophilus

Hi folks, here's a forward (sent to Scotch-Irish-L-request@rootsweb.com -- admin address instead of the list: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com) Linda Merle (SI Admin) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Lila F Hill <lila25@juno.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:27:56 -0600 >A "warned out" usually meant that you were without visible means of >support and the local village was NOT going to put you on their support >list. In other words go somewhere else. > >Lila Hill > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Re the listing sent from Kaye on July 31 what does the phrase "warned out" mean? It was used in the email from "Kaye" via Linda: Hi folks, I'm assuming Don (below) sent this to me so I can post it to the list. PLease not I also don't have any further info and in five minutes won't even recall forwarding the post! Linda Merle (SI Admin) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "don cranston" <dcran41266@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:49:53 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" <kaye.oo4@verizon.net> To: <CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:21 AM Subject: [CoTyrone] Immigrants to New England - Hackney , Haggard , Haines , Hambleton , Hamilton , Hamitt , Hanckleton , Handford , Hankin Thanks for any help. Karen Hart Anthony

I think she means "worn out" :) Mary Lou Tannich -----Original Message----- From: Scotch-Irish-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:Scotch-Irish-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Hart Anthony Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:12 AM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] "warned out" Re the listing sent from Kaye on July 31 what does the phrase "warned out" mean? It was used in the email from "Kaye" via Linda: Hi folks, I'm assuming Don (below) sent this to me so I can post it to the list. PLease not I also don't have any further info and in five minutes won't even recall forwarding the post! Linda Merle (SI Admin) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "don cranston" <dcran41266@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:49:53 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" <kaye.oo4@verizon.net> To: <CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:21 AM Subject: [CoTyrone] Immigrants to New England - Hackney , Haggard , Haines , Hambleton , Hamilton , Hamitt , Hanckleton , Handford , Hankin Thanks for any help. Karen Hart Anthony

Hello Marilyn, You can find a recently updated version of the Clogher Diocese marriage licence bonds on www.ulsterancestry.com by clicking on the "Free Pages" button. Lots of other stuff there as well. regards Robert >From: "Marilyn Otterson" <rosiedoggie@comcast.net> >To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:51:16 -0400 > >Lee, how do you get this information? Is it available for other dioceses >online also? > >Thanks, >Marilyn >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> >To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:26 AM >Subject: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records > > >>Diocese of Kilmore and Ardagh Marriage License Bonds: >> >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrian/CoIKilm.htm >> >>Lee Ramsey >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Several years ago (2000), the Ulster Historical Society published in their subscribers' interest list # 23 (Directory of Irish Family History Research) tenant records compiled by Ian Montgomery entitled "Tenants on the Estates of the Earls of Antrim in the Seventeenth Century." These are exceptional records for research for Co. Antrim during the 1600s. The list is presented in alphabetical order, so I can do look ups within a reasonable time frame. Also be aware that the vast majority of these tenants are among the more educated and well established folks, i.e., lawyers, gentlemen, yeoman, clerks, ministers, etc. Also, please be aware that these surviving leases do not provide a complete record of those who held land from the Earls of Antrim. Lee Ramsey

Hi Lee, Thanks for the offer and I am sure you will get lots of requests. However those were posted to this list several years ago and are in the archives along with a lot of other very useful extracts. To go to the archives, go to www.rootsweb.com, then click on Interactive Search under Mailing Lists. Takes you here: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in Scotch-Irish" and click on Submit Query. Then search. Folks who have not checked the archives of this list are missing out big time. They include extracts from various AP (Associated Presbyterian) mags made by a now deceased list member. She gave us her legacy. Extracts of material not under international copyright always appreciated (We're an international list). Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> Reply-To: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:25:24 -0400 >Several years ago (2000), the Ulster Historical Society published in their subscribers' interest list # 23 (Directory of Irish Family History Research) tenant records compiled by Ian Montgomery entitled "Tenants on the Estates of the Earls of Antrim in the Seventeenth Century." > >These are exceptional records for research for Co. Antrim during the 1600s. The list is presented in alphabetical order, so I can do look ups within a reasonable time frame. Also be aware that the vast majority of these tenants are among the more educated and well established folks, i.e., lawyers, gentlemen, yeoman, clerks, ministers, etc. Also, please be aware that these surviving leases do not provide a complete record of those who held land from the Earls of Antrim. > >Lee Ramsey > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Marilyn, These type of records are available due to the interest and dedication in the field of genealogy by individual folks who submitt their work to free genealogy. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <rosiedoggie@comcast.net> To: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> Cc: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records > Lee, how do you get this information? Is it available for other dioceses > online also? > > Thanks, > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:26 AM > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records > > >> Diocese of Kilmore and Ardagh Marriage License Bonds: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrian/CoIKilm.htm >> >> Lee Ramsey >> >> > > >

Lee, how do you get this information? Is it available for other dioceses online also? Thanks, Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records > Diocese of Kilmore and Ardagh Marriage License Bonds: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrian/CoIKilm.htm > > Lee Ramsey > >

Diocese of Kilmore and Ardagh Marriage License Bonds: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrian/CoIKilm.htm Lee Ramsey

Hi Marilyn, You can find out what church records survive by consulting a large number of books like Ryan "Irish Records", Grenham's book on Irish genealogy, the latest and greatest book on Ulster genealogy (whose name I forget) and LDS has a list on film. All these items are in print or filmed -- that means they are old. They don't have what went up on the Internet yesterday. That's easy to find: you google! YOu can also join various notification lists like rootsweb's weekly newsletter (www.rootsweb.com) the surname search thang that I've mentioned here before, probably a few Irish things, but if you are looking for church records, it's smart to google to see if they might have been 'put up' yesterday. If you rely on others to tell you about this stuff, you won't find it .... or you'll not be able to find the URL when you need it. I do a lot of googling and am always surprised at the results. There's also lists of surviving church recs on the web at I think fianna. Of course these various sources might not agree on the status. No one is always right. Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> Reply-To: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:33:37 -0400 >Hi , > >These type of records are available due to the interest and dedication in >the field of genealogy by individual folks who submitt their work to free >genealogy. > >Lee > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marilyn Otterson" <rosiedoggie@comcast.net> >To: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> >Cc: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM >Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records > > >> Lee, how do you get this information? Is it available for other dioceses >> online also? >> >> Thanks, >> Marilyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee Ramsey" <lee.ramsey@comcast.net> >> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:26 AM >> Subject: [Sc-Ir] Church of Ireland Marriage Records >> >> >>> Diocese of Kilmore and Ardagh Marriage License Bonds: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrian/CoIKilm.htm >>> >>> Lee Ramsey >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

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Hi folks, a forward of possible interest. Lilnda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: joe <joe@genesearch.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:54:08 -0600 Hello All, The Castle Garden Database is now online. You can presently search New York passenger arrivals from 1830-1892... http://www.castlegarden.org/ Good luck with your searches. Regards, Joe -- What Passenger Lists are Online? http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/onlinelists.html ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi folks, I'm assuming Don (below) sent this to me so I can post it to the list. PLease not I also don't have any further info and in five minutes won't even recall forwarding the post! Linda Merle (SI Admin) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "don cranston" <dcran41266@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:49:53 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" <kaye.oo4@verizon.net> To: <CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:21 AM Subject: [CoTyrone] Immigrants to New England - Hackney , Haggard , Haines , Hambleton , Hamilton , Hamitt , Hanckleton , Handford , Hankin > PLEASE NOTE** I have "no further data" on the persons mentioned.* > The author states that the information has not been verified. > Names: > Hackney, Samuel, of Boston, Mass;"marriner who came from Barbadoes,: sickly, Oct 1719; warned out Nov 1719. -Boston Rec Com V 13 > > Haggard, John of Boston Mass; "from anopilus Royal,: 1726; warned out June 1726. Bost Rec. Com v 13 > > P.80 > Haines, William Boston Mass b/4 1715; m./ Bethiah Peggee, Nov 1715; forbid by Capt. Benj. Cowell. -Boston Rec Com V 28 > > Hambleton, Patrick, of Hopkinton, Mass; from Ireland b/4 1728; m. Agnis Montgomery, July 9 1728; Children: Ephraim, Mary, Patrick. -Hopkinton Vit Rec pp 96 > > Hamilton, Thomas, of Worcester Mass; from Ireland; b/4 1733; perhaps son of James. Perry's Scotch-Irish p 14 > > Hamilton Hugh of Rutland & Hopkinton Mass, and Blandford, Conn; from Ireland about 1716 or 1718; inspectore of swine, Tutlnad, 1722. Reed's Rutland p 27 > > Hamilton, James of Worcester, Mass; from Ireland in 1718 (Miss Patten says 1716) ;m. 1, Margaret --; d. Feb 1761 aet 35; Children: Thomas, Michael, John, Frances; m. 2, Rebecca ---; brother of John Hamilton, and "cuzen" of Samuel Calhoun; d. before May 1735 in Pelham (will). -Lincoln's Worcester p 49 > > Hamilton, John; see Henderson, Hugh > > Hamilton, John of Rutland Mass; from Londonderry, 1717; m. Eleanor --; afterwards m. John Savage at Rutland, Jan 15 1733; Children: John, Eleeanor, Martha:, Mary:. -Vital Rec of Rutland p 148 > > Hamilton, John , Newbury, Mass; "a foreigner"; m. Mehitable Duty, of Byfield Rowley, Dec 25 1778 at Newbury. -Newbuy Vital Rec V2 > > Hamilton, Samuel, of Brookfield, Mass and Chesterfield, N.H; came from Ireland 1772 with linen goods; b. Ireland 1752; m. Molly Tyler May 9 1775, in Brookfield; d. Dec 16 1842 aet 90; Children: John, Hannah, Hance, Loammi, James, Samuel, Asa, Fanny, Amadella; d. Feb 12 1712 Brookfield Bit Rec 331 > > Hamitt, Thomas of Portsmouth b/4 1717; m. Elizabeth Denefored of Kittery, Me. Jan 1717 -N.E. Hist. GenReg 23 > > Hankleton , John, of Boston Mass., from South Carolina, Feb 1719, plater; warned out Feb 1719 -Boston Rec Com V 13 > > Handford Richard of Boston Mass, from South Carolina, Feb 1719, plater; warned out Feb 1719 -Boston Rec Com V 13 > > Hankin, Edward of Salem Mass before 1712; m, Hope Borden, daughter of Joseph Borden, merchant, deceased March 26 1712. -Salem Vit Rec V 3 > Reminder: > "It comes from many sources, some accurate and some inaccurate,<snip>. > Inevitably, therefore, there will be mistakes. In some cases, mostly in the > records of ships entering Boston, those may have been included as immigrants > who were merely returning from a trip to New York, or even a trip abroad. > The list is only intended to be a guide toward further investigation, and as > such it is hoped that it will prove useful to many. Ethel S. Bolton - > Author" > Originally published by The Essex Institute Salem Massachusetts, 1931 > Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. > 1001 N. Calvert St.m, Baltimore, Maryland 21202 > First Printing 1966 > Second Printing 1973 > Third Printing 1979 > > > ==== CoTyroneIreland Mailing List ==== > To search the Griffiths Valuation Index > http://www.myirishancestry.com/index.php/plain/griffiths > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Dear Fran, For your interest, the names of Wm Greg and John Greg are along with others on a letter of appreciation (dated 15 January 1773 at Charlestown) printed in the Belfast Newsletter of June 1773. The appreciation was directed to James Gillis and Rev Martin because of their support to the passengers during an outbreak of smallpox on board ship. Happy to email images of the articles (total file size 200KB) to any interested list members. Good luck with your researches. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Warren" <War@cebridge.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Gregg > John and William Gregg left Belfast Ireland on the Immigrant ship "Lord > dunluce, with Capt. James Gillis and members of the Associated Reformed > Presbyterian on October 4, 1772 and landed in Charleston, S.C. in Dec. > 1772. > Listed on the ships passenger list with John and William were Jane, Mary, > and Ninian Gregg. > This group were traveling with the Rev. William Martin and had left > Ireland, I suppose, because of religious freedom. > The Greggs settled in Newberry co., S.C. and that is where William Gregg > died. Some of his children left for Georgia about 1825. > John Gregg was in Gwinnett co., Ga in 1830 along with his nephew, Robert > McCalla, and family > Is anyone researching this line of Gregg-Gragg? > Fran >

John and William Gregg left Belfast Ireland on the Immigrant ship "Lord dunluce, with Capt. James Gillis and members of the Associated Reformed Presbyterian on October 4, 1772 and landed in Charleston, S.C. in Dec. 1772. Listed on the ships passenger list with John and William were Jane, Mary, and Ninian Gregg. This group were traveling with the Rev. William Martin and had left Ireland, I suppose, because of religious freedom. The Greggs settled in Newberry co., S.C. and that is where William Gregg died. Some of his children left for Georgia about 1825. John Gregg was in Gwinnett co., Ga in 1830 along with his nephew, Robert McCalla, and family Is anyone researching this line of Gregg-Gragg? Fran

And, if it's of any help, those ancestors in Ireland must have been Presbyterian. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever > Just a bit more information about Irish Protestants in Ontario, this from > my own background: > > My grandfather's grandparents left northern Ireland in 1840, immediately > after marrying, to go to Canada. Here is what I know: > > Samuel Hart (b. abt. 1815, "north of Ireland, near Belfast, in Ulster", > poss. Co. Cavan, m. Rebecca Kelly from Co. Armagh March 15, 1840.) > Rebecca was the youngest of four girls: > Anna Bella Kelly (b. about 1800) > Jane Kelly > Mary Kelly > Rebecca Kelly > > (1) Anna Bella Kelly m. John Caughey (b. Callyshiel, Co. Armagh, d. > November 25, 1871, m. Anna Bella Kelly January 17, 1828 in Clare > Presbyterian Church (Co. Armagh?), Ireland.) > > (2) Jane Kelly m. David Jeffrey October 28, 1831, in the same church. > > (3) Mary Kelly m. James McHenry April 23, 1839, in the same church. > > (4) Rebecca Kelly m. Samuel Hart March 15, 1840, and they left > "immediately" for Canada. > I do not know what ship they traveled on, nor where they landed in Canada. > I do know they soon were living in Bishop's Mills, Oxford-on-Rideau > Township, Ontario, Canada. > > Rebecca Kelly's father was named James Kelly, but I do not know anything > about his siblings or his parents or where they lived. It is possible > that James Kelly had a brother John. James Kelly died between October 28, > 1831 and April 23, 1839, as he was present for his first two daughter's > weddings, but not for the last two. > > It is possible that Rebecca Kelly's mother was Jane ? but that is not > definite. > > I would love to know more about Samuel Hart (b. Ireland) and also about > the parents of Rebecca Kelly (b. Ireland), as well as previous generations > in Ireland. All of that is likely to be in Co. Cavan (family memories) or > possible Co. Armagh (since Rebecca Kelly's family church was there.) > > Last summer, my husband and I traveled to Bishop's Mills, Ontario, Canada, > and we found the log cabin that Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly built and > lived in. It is being lived in and loved by a family who is working on > making it look like it did when it was built. It still does look exactly > like that -- I mean they are restoring it where needed. Townspeople knew > it as the Hart cabin. We also found the Minish cabin (see more info below > if you are interested.) > > Following is the line from Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly who married in > Ireland. If it is more information than what you are interested in, just > skip it! > > In Canada, Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly Hart had 4 children: > James Hart b. 1843 > Martha Jane Hart b. 1844 > Samuel Hart, Jr. > Maurice Hart, b. December 25, 1850 > > Maurice Hart married a girl from the farm next door in Bishop's Mills: > Catherine Minish, poss. b. 1845, as her gravestone says "died March 26, > 1911, at the age of 66 years." We also found the Minish cabin, sure > enough, visible from the Hart cabin's back yard. > > Maurice Hart and Catherine Minish Hart had nine children, all born in > Canada: > (1) Samuel Hart (b. February 11, 1868, m. Mary Ellen Snowdon, had one > child Ruby Elizabeth Hart. Mary Ellen Snowdon died at the age of 97.) > (2) David Lorenzo Hart (b. March 28, 1870 d. March 12, 1908) > (3) Margaret Hart (b. December 20, 1872. Never married, d. February 12, > 1961) > (4) Ella Hart (b. July 13, 1875, m. ? Gibson, had two children Mansell > Gibson and Bernice Gibson, died September 03, 1959) > (5) Charles Merrill Hart (b. July 7, 1877, d. September 08, 1961) > (6) Eli Maurice (Morris) Hart (b. March 25, 1879, m. Carrie Bliss (b. > October 1885, d. 1975) August 02, 1905, had two children Merrill Bliss > Hart and Lauren Bliss Hart, d. > (7) Agnys ("Nancy") Hart (b. October 12, 1881, d. 1923) > (8) Elizabeth Ruby Hart (b. November 09, 1883 d. April 17, 1884 at the > age of 2 years and 5 months) > (9) Archibald "Albert" Arthur Hart (b. January 24, 1885, d. December 16, > 1953) > > Eli Maurice Hart moved to Hartford, Connecticut, lived in a boarding > house, and married the daughter of the owner of the boarding house. Her > name was Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975). They are my > grandparents. They had two sons. > > (1) Merrill Bliss Hart (b. August 19, 1920, m. Norma Grace Thomas (b. > 1915, d. 1972), had two children named Merrill and Lauren, and d. 1969. > > Merrill Bliss Hart and Norma Grace Thomas Hart had two children: > (a) Thomas George Hart, b. 1936, m. Inger from Sweden, lives in Sweden, > has three children: Stephen, Birgitta, and Karin, also grandchildren) > (b) Margaret Ruth Hart, b. March 18, 1943, had four children: William, > Merrill, Thomas, James), d. August 29, 1989) > > (2) Lauren Watson Hart (changed his name at the age of 21 to Lauren Bliss > Hart) (b. November 20, 1914, m. Ruth Margaret Kelley [this Kelley has an > e] (b. November 5, 1916, had three children named Karen, Steven, and > Jill), d. February 01, 1992) > > Lauren Bliss Hart and Ruth Margaret Hart had three children: > (a) Karen Ruth Hart (that's me! b. October 01, 1940, m. Gerald Jordan > Reese September 02, 1962, had two children Michael Todd Reese and Brian > Hart Reese, divorced 1975, remarried to Cushman Dodge Anthony 1976) > (b) Steven Merrill Hart (b. February 07, 1942, m. Carlotta Bethea, no > children) > (c) Mary Jill Hart, known as Jill Hart (b. November 24, 1945, m. Thomas > Johnson, had two children Tammy and Carrie) > > Karen Ruth Hart Reese and Gerald Jordan Reese had two children: > (a) Michael Todd Reese (b. October 13, 1964, lives in Hawaii, not married) > (b) Brian Hart Reese (b. September 5, 1965), lives in Virginia with > long-time girlfriend, has one child Jennifer Myita Hart Reese (b. August > 26, 1999) > > That's all for now. I would greatly appreciate any information on the > first named people in this story: Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly, who > married in Ireland. > > Karen Hart Anthony > Falmouth, Maine > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RKMacmaster@aol.com> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:52 PM > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever > > >> The new thread on Irish Protestants in Ontario is interesting and >> illuminating on the large migration from all parts of Ireland, not just >> Ulster. >> >> Bruce S. Elliott, Irish Migrants in the Canadas (Montreal: McGill >> University >> Press, 1988), 2nd edition, 2004, $32.95 US and Canada, tells this story, >> primarily through case studies of Protestant emigrants from North >> Tipperary to >> Ontario. This is an outstanding book, that I considered groundbreaking >> when I >> reviewed it in 1988 (and my review is still quoted in the publisher's >> blurb). >> The author is a trained genealogist who drew on genealogical records of >> many >> Ontario families. >> >> Donald Harmen Akenson, The Irish in Ontario, also from McGill, is another >> good book on the topic. Akenson has researched and written widely on >> both Ulster >> and rural Ontario. >> >> Richard >> >> >> > > > >

Just a bit more information about Irish Protestants in Ontario, this from my own background: My grandfather's grandparents left northern Ireland in 1840, immediately after marrying, to go to Canada. Here is what I know: Samuel Hart (b. abt. 1815, "north of Ireland, near Belfast, in Ulster", poss. Co. Cavan, m. Rebecca Kelly from Co. Armagh March 15, 1840.) Rebecca was the youngest of four girls: Anna Bella Kelly (b. about 1800) Jane Kelly Mary Kelly Rebecca Kelly (1) Anna Bella Kelly m. John Caughey (b. Callyshiel, Co. Armagh, d. November 25, 1871, m. Anna Bella Kelly January 17, 1828 in Clare Presbyterian Church (Co. Armagh?), Ireland.) (2) Jane Kelly m. David Jeffrey October 28, 1831, in the same church. (3) Mary Kelly m. James McHenry April 23, 1839, in the same church. (4) Rebecca Kelly m. Samuel Hart March 15, 1840, and they left "immediately" for Canada. I do not know what ship they traveled on, nor where they landed in Canada. I do know they soon were living in Bishop's Mills, Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Ontario, Canada. Rebecca Kelly's father was named James Kelly, but I do not know anything about his siblings or his parents or where they lived. It is possible that James Kelly had a brother John. James Kelly died between October 28, 1831 and April 23, 1839, as he was present for his first two daughter's weddings, but not for the last two. It is possible that Rebecca Kelly's mother was Jane ? but that is not definite. I would love to know more about Samuel Hart (b. Ireland) and also about the parents of Rebecca Kelly (b. Ireland), as well as previous generations in Ireland. All of that is likely to be in Co. Cavan (family memories) or possible Co. Armagh (since Rebecca Kelly's family church was there.) Last summer, my husband and I traveled to Bishop's Mills, Ontario, Canada, and we found the log cabin that Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly built and lived in. It is being lived in and loved by a family who is working on making it look like it did when it was built. It still does look exactly like that -- I mean they are restoring it where needed. Townspeople knew it as the Hart cabin. We also found the Minish cabin (see more info below if you are interested.) Following is the line from Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly who married in Ireland. If it is more information than what you are interested in, just skip it! In Canada, Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly Hart had 4 children: James Hart b. 1843 Martha Jane Hart b. 1844 Samuel Hart, Jr. Maurice Hart, b. December 25, 1850 Maurice Hart married a girl from the farm next door in Bishop's Mills: Catherine Minish, poss. b. 1845, as her gravestone says "died March 26, 1911, at the age of 66 years." We also found the Minish cabin, sure enough, visible from the Hart cabin's back yard. Maurice Hart and Catherine Minish Hart had nine children, all born in Canada: (1) Samuel Hart (b. February 11, 1868, m. Mary Ellen Snowdon, had one child Ruby Elizabeth Hart. Mary Ellen Snowdon died at the age of 97.) (2) David Lorenzo Hart (b. March 28, 1870 d. March 12, 1908) (3) Margaret Hart (b. December 20, 1872. Never married, d. February 12, 1961) (4) Ella Hart (b. July 13, 1875, m. ? Gibson, had two children Mansell Gibson and Bernice Gibson, died September 03, 1959) (5) Charles Merrill Hart (b. July 7, 1877, d. September 08, 1961) (6) Eli Maurice (Morris) Hart (b. March 25, 1879, m. Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975) August 02, 1905, had two children Merrill Bliss Hart and Lauren Bliss Hart, d. (7) Agnys ("Nancy") Hart (b. October 12, 1881, d. 1923) (8) Elizabeth Ruby Hart (b. November 09, 1883 d. April 17, 1884 at the age of 2 years and 5 months) (9) Archibald "Albert" Arthur Hart (b. January 24, 1885, d. December 16, 1953) Eli Maurice Hart moved to Hartford, Connecticut, lived in a boarding house, and married the daughter of the owner of the boarding house. Her name was Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975). They are my grandparents. They had two sons. (1) Merrill Bliss Hart (b. August 19, 1920, m. Norma Grace Thomas (b. 1915, d. 1972), had two children named Merrill and Lauren, and d. 1969. Merrill Bliss Hart and Norma Grace Thomas Hart had two children: (a) Thomas George Hart, b. 1936, m. Inger from Sweden, lives in Sweden, has three children: Stephen, Birgitta, and Karin, also grandchildren) (b) Margaret Ruth Hart, b. March 18, 1943, had four children: William, Merrill, Thomas, James), d. August 29, 1989) (2) Lauren Watson Hart (changed his name at the age of 21 to Lauren Bliss Hart) (b. November 20, 1914, m. Ruth Margaret Kelley [this Kelley has an e] (b. November 5, 1916, had three children named Karen, Steven, and Jill), d. February 01, 1992) Lauren Bliss Hart and Ruth Margaret Hart had three children: (a) Karen Ruth Hart (that's me! b. October 01, 1940, m. Gerald Jordan Reese September 02, 1962, had two children Michael Todd Reese and Brian Hart Reese, divorced 1975, remarried to Cushman Dodge Anthony 1976) (b) Steven Merrill Hart (b. February 07, 1942, m. Carlotta Bethea, no children) (c) Mary Jill Hart, known as Jill Hart (b. November 24, 1945, m. Thomas Johnson, had two children Tammy and Carrie) Karen Ruth Hart Reese and Gerald Jordan Reese had two children: (a) Michael Todd Reese (b. October 13, 1964, lives in Hawaii, not married) (b) Brian Hart Reese (b. September 5, 1965), lives in Virginia with long-time girlfriend, has one child Jennifer Myita Hart Reese (b. August 26, 1999) That's all for now. I would greatly appreciate any information on the first named people in this story: Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly, who married in Ireland. Karen Hart Anthony Falmouth, Maine USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <RKMacmaster@aol.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever > The new thread on Irish Protestants in Ontario is interesting and > illuminating on the large migration from all parts of Ireland, not just > Ulster. > > Bruce S. Elliott, Irish Migrants in the Canadas (Montreal: McGill > University > Press, 1988), 2nd edition, 2004, $32.95 US and Canada, tells this story, > primarily through case studies of Protestant emigrants from North > Tipperary to > Ontario. This is an outstanding book, that I considered groundbreaking > when I > reviewed it in 1988 (and my review is still quoted in the publisher's > blurb). > The author is a trained genealogist who drew on genealogical records of > many > Ontario families. > > Donald Harmen Akenson, The Irish in Ontario, also from McGill, is another > good book on the topic. Akenson has researched and written widely on both > Ulster > and rural Ontario. > > Richard > > >