I had a quick look at "Ulster Sails West" From page 32 "Ulster Sails West" "If defeated every where else" said this great leader (Washington) "I will make my last stand for liberty among the Scotch-Irish of my native Virginia".

I remember seeing a quote of this sort some years ago on a placard or card you could buy in the gift shop at Valley Forge. However, as I recall it said Scots not Scotch-Irish. I was not into history or genealogy at the time and didn't relate to the quote, but remember being curious about what Scots he was talking about. I thought is related to a more specific unit in the Army that was attached to Washington for his personal defense. If I have a chance to get back there I will look for it again. John Polk > [Original Message] > From: Rob Hilliard <rth@mackinengineering.com> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/9/2005 2:50:55 PM > Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 > > Interesting. I had it in two locations, one being - Surprise! - a > Billy Kennedy book. The other was the website > http://www.electricscotland.com/scottish_trivia.htm where it appears > unattributed, other than the vague reference to Valley Forge. > > Thanks for enlightening me and sorry for the red herring. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Montgomery Michael [mailto:ullans@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:41 PM > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 > > No, the George Washintgon quote does not work. As Richard MacMaster, > who forwarded the original query to this list, knows, the Washington > quote is not an authentic one. Having frequently seen it in popular > historians (e.g. the books of Billy Kennedy) a couple of years ago I > tried to track it down by contacting the editors of the Washington > Papers at the University of Virginia. They could find nothing that > resembles it among the vast assemblage of Washington material. > The quotation seems to go at least as far back as W F Marshall's _Ulster > Sails West_ sixty years ago, but I have never a citation of its original > source. Thus, it seems to me that the quote is probably partially, if > not wholly, apocryphal. > > MacMaster did a piece for the _Family Tree_ newspaper a year or so ago > in which he speculated that he had found a quotation attributed to > Washington that was the germ of the more familiar one, but that it was > several alterations removed from it. > > Or has anyone actually seen a cited original source for the quote from > Washington's one writing? > > Is there any good evidence that Washington ever used the term > "Scotch-Irish"? > > Michael Montgomery > --- John Polk --- Havre de Grace MD --- jfpolk@earthlink.net

Since Pittsburgh was started by a group of Scotch-Irish perhaps we can get the Society to have a git t'gether here. I'm in. Judith Brown www.pafairtax.org   "We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward restoring for our children the American dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.” – Ronald Reagan   “The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded." --C. L. De Montesquieu -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hilliard [mailto:rth@mackinengineering.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:31 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 I'm in. But if we're having shorter meetings and longer parties after, I may be arriving a bit late. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Merle [mailto:merle@mail.fea.net] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:07 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 Hi Rob, Unfortunately Billy Kennedy is very good at popularizing but not good so good on facts. In one of his books he contradicts himself on one of my ancestors. However since I am writing a book, I can understand the difficulties of right hand knowing what the left is doing or knowing if what's on page 35 contradicts what's on page 256. It should be a clue that he doesn't use footnotes, making it impossible to trace back any thing he writes. >http://www.electricscotland.com/ They also got credibility problems. They are clearly Ferenghi. Don't use them in your footnotes if you want respect.... >Thanks for enlightening me and sorry for the red herring. It's unfortunate that we gotta remove the drek before we can find the gold in our pasts. Though the popularization of the Ulster Scot/Scotch-Irish <whatever> is nice, unfortunately it's produced a crop of the same junk. I wince a lot! The Scotch Irish Society is dedicated to maintaining high standards of scholarship, which is one reason I stick with them. They also have very good parties after their bi-annual conferences. I had to miss the last one. Since I'm moving to Pittsburgh, maybe we can start up a local chapter. Of course we'll have short meetings and longer parties, practicing for the next-post conference libation in two years. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/93 - Release Date: 9/8/2005

I'm in. But if we're having shorter meetings and longer parties after, I may be arriving a bit late. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Merle [mailto:merle@mail.fea.net] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:07 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 Hi Rob, Unfortunately Billy Kennedy is very good at popularizing but not good so good on facts. In one of his books he contradicts himself on one of my ancestors. However since I am writing a book, I can understand the difficulties of right hand knowing what the left is doing or knowing if what's on page 35 contradicts what's on page 256. It should be a clue that he doesn't use footnotes, making it impossible to trace back any thing he writes. >http://www.electricscotland.com/ They also got credibility problems. They are clearly Ferenghi. Don't use them in your footnotes if you want respect.... >Thanks for enlightening me and sorry for the red herring. It's unfortunate that we gotta remove the drek before we can find the gold in our pasts. Though the popularization of the Ulster Scot/Scotch-Irish <whatever> is nice, unfortunately it's produced a crop of the same junk. I wince a lot! The Scotch Irish Society is dedicated to maintaining high standards of scholarship, which is one reason I stick with them. They also have very good parties after their bi-annual conferences. I had to miss the last one. Since I'm moving to Pittsburgh, maybe we can start up a local chapter. Of course we'll have short meetings and longer parties, practicing for the next-post conference libation in two years. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Interesting. I had it in two locations, one being - Surprise! - a Billy Kennedy book. The other was the website http://www.electricscotland.com/scottish_trivia.htm where it appears unattributed, other than the vague reference to Valley Forge. Thanks for enlightening me and sorry for the red herring. -----Original Message----- From: Montgomery Michael [mailto:ullans@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:41 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #160 No, the George Washintgon quote does not work. As Richard MacMaster, who forwarded the original query to this list, knows, the Washington quote is not an authentic one. Having frequently seen it in popular historians (e.g. the books of Billy Kennedy) a couple of years ago I tried to track it down by contacting the editors of the Washington Papers at the University of Virginia. They could find nothing that resembles it among the vast assemblage of Washington material. The quotation seems to go at least as far back as W F Marshall's _Ulster Sails West_ sixty years ago, but I have never a citation of its original source. Thus, it seems to me that the quote is probably partially, if not wholly, apocryphal. MacMaster did a piece for the _Family Tree_ newspaper a year or so ago in which he speculated that he had found a quotation attributed to Washington that was the germ of the more familiar one, but that it was several alterations removed from it. Or has anyone actually seen a cited original source for the quote from Washington's one writing? Is there any good evidence that Washington ever used the term "Scotch-Irish"? Michael Montgomery

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Hi Rob, Unfortunately Billy Kennedy is very good at popularizing but not good so good on facts. In one of his books he contradicts himself on one of my ancestors. However since I am writing a book, I can understand the difficulties of right hand knowing what the left is doing or knowing if what's on page 35 contradicts what's on page 256. It should be a clue that he doesn't use footnotes, making it impossible to trace back any thing he writes. >http://www.electricscotland.com/ They also got credibility problems. They are clearly Ferenghi. Don't use them in your footnotes if you want respect.... >Thanks for enlightening me and sorry for the red herring. It's unfortunate that we gotta remove the drek before we can find the gold in our pasts. Though the popularization of the Ulster Scot/Scotch-Irish <whatever> is nice, unfortunately it's produced a crop of the same junk. I wince a lot! The Scotch Irish Society is dedicated to maintaining high standards of scholarship, which is one reason I stick with them. They also have very good parties after their bi-annual conferences. I had to miss the last one. Since I'm moving to Pittsburgh, maybe we can start up a local chapter. Of course we'll have short meetings and longer parties, practicing for the next-post conference libation in two years. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Dear Scotch-Irish L: No, the George Washintgon quote does not work. As Richard MacMaster, who forwarded the original query to this list, knows, the Washington quote is not an authentic one. Having frequently seen it in popular historians (e.g. the books of Billy Kennedy) a couple of years ago I tried to track it down by contacting the editors of the Washington Papers at the University of Virginia. They could find nothing that resembles it among the vast assemblage of Washington material. The quotation seems to go at least as far back as W F Marshall's _Ulster Sails West_ sixty years ago, but I have never a citation of its original source. Thus, it seems to me that the quote is probably partially, if not wholly, apocryphal. MacMaster did a piece for the _Family Tree_ newspaper a year or so ago in which he speculated that he had found a quotation attributed to Washington that was the germ of the more familiar one, but that it was several alterations removed from it. Or has anyone actually seen a cited original source for the quote from Washington's one writing? Is there any good evidence that Washington ever used the term "Scotch-Irish"? Michael Montgomery > From: "Rob Hilliard" <rth@mackinengineering.com> > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations > by/about Virginia immigrants > > Does this work?: > > "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of > Virginia, plant my > flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the > Scotch-Irish of that region and > make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who > will never submit to > British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a > trigger." George > Washington, Valley Forge. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rkmacmaster@aol.com > [mailto:rkmacmaster@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:30 AM > > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations by/about > > Virginia immigrants > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Saillant, W. Michigan Univ. > > <john.saillant@WMICH.EDU> > > To: H-OIEAHC@H-NET.MSU.EDU > > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:25:17 -0400 > > Subject: Striking quotations by/about Virginia > > immigrants > > > > > > >From "Ayres, Edward S." > > <edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov> > > Sent Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:08 am To > > john.saillant@wmich.edu > > Subject Striking quotations by/about Virginia > > immigrants > > > > The Yorktown Victory Center of the > > Jamestown-Yorktown Foundation is > > planning a new permanent exhibit entitled "A > Nation > > of Immigrants" that > > will open in the late Summer of 2006. This > exhibit > > will focus on > > immigration to Virginia primarily during the > period > > from 1700 to about > > 1860, with a special emphasis on the > > post-Revolutionary and early > > National periods. The exhibit team would like to > > identify four or five > > contemporary, "quotable" statements ca 1700-1830 > by > > or about Virginia > > immigrants or groups, their experiences, and what > > drew them to Virginia > > or drove them to leave their homeland. Even > > statements that do not > > specifically refer to Virginia, but would > > nevertheless be valid, could > > be useful. Any examples or suggestions would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Edward Ayres, Historian > > Yorktown Victory Center > > Yorktown, Virginia > > > > ph (757) 847-3129 fax (757) 887-1306 > > > > email: edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

No, the George Washintgon quote does not work. As Richard MacMaster, who forwarded the original query to this list, knows, the Washington quote is not an authentic one. Having frequently seen it in popular historians (e.g. the books of Billy Kennedy) a couple of years ago I tried to track it down by contacting the editors of the Washington Papers at the University of Virginia. They could find nothing that resembles it among the vast assemblage of Washington material. The quotation seems to go at least as far back as W F Marshall's _Ulster Sails West_ sixty years ago, but I have never a citation of its original source. Thus, it seems to me that the quote is probably partially, if not wholly, apocryphal. MacMaster did a piece for the _Family Tree_ newspaper a year or so ago in which he speculated that he had found a quotation attributed to Washington that was the germ of the more familiar one, but that it was several alterations removed from it. Or has anyone actually seen a cited original source for the quote from Washington's one writing? Is there any good evidence that Washington ever used the term "Scotch-Irish"? Michael Montgomery > From: "Rob Hilliard" <rth@mackinengineering.com> > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations > by/about Virginia immigrants > > Does this work?: > > "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of > Virginia, plant my > flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the > Scotch-Irish of that region and > make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who > will never submit to > British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a > trigger." George > Washington, Valley Forge. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rkmacmaster@aol.com > [mailto:rkmacmaster@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:30 AM > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations by/about > Virginia immigrants > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Saillant, W. Michigan Univ. > <john.saillant@WMICH.EDU> > To: H-OIEAHC@H-NET.MSU.EDU > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:25:17 -0400 > Subject: Striking quotations by/about Virginia > immigrants > > > >From "Ayres, Edward S." > <edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov> > Sent Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:08 am To > john.saillant@wmich.edu > Subject Striking quotations by/about Virginia > immigrants > > The Yorktown Victory Center of the > Jamestown-Yorktown Foundation is > planning a new permanent exhibit entitled "A Nation > of Immigrants" that > will open in the late Summer of 2006. This exhibit > will focus on > immigration to Virginia primarily during the period > from 1700 to about > 1860, with a special emphasis on the > post-Revolutionary and early > National periods. The exhibit team would like to > identify four or five > contemporary, "quotable" statements ca 1700-1830 by > or about Virginia > immigrants or groups, their experiences, and what > drew them to Virginia > or drove them to leave their homeland. Even > statements that do not > specifically refer to Virginia, but would > nevertheless be valid, could > be useful. Any examples or suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Edward Ayres, Historian > Yorktown Victory Center > Yorktown, Virginia > > ph (757) 847-3129 fax (757) 887-1306 > > email: edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

No, the George Washintgon quote does not work. As Richard MacMaster, who forwarded the original query to this list, knows, the Washington quote is not an authentic one. Having frequently seen it in popular historians (e.g. the books of Billy Kennedy) a couple of years ago I tried to track it down by contacting the editors of the Washington Papers at the University of Virginia. They could find nothing that resembles it among the vast assemblage of Washington material. The quotation seems to go at least as far back as W F Marshall's _Ulster Sails West_ sixty years ago, but I have never a citation of its original source. Thus, it seems to me that the quote is probably partially, if not wholly, apocryphal. MacMaster did a piece for the _Family Tree_ newspaper a year or so ago in which he speculated that he had found a quotation attributed to Washington that was the germ of the more familiar one, but that it was several alterations removed from it. Or has anyone actually seen a cited original source for the quote from Washington's one writing? Is there any good evidence that Washington ever used the term "Scotch-Irish"? Michael Montgomery > From: "Rob Hilliard" <rth@mackinengineering.com> > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations > by/about Virginia immigrants > > Does this work?: > > "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of > Virginia, plant my > flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the > Scotch-Irish of that region and > make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who > will never submit to > British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a > trigger." George > Washington, Valley Forge. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rkmacmaster@aol.com > [mailto:rkmacmaster@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:30 AM > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations by/about > Virginia immigrants > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Saillant, W. Michigan Univ. > <john.saillant@WMICH.EDU> > To: H-OIEAHC@H-NET.MSU.EDU > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:25:17 -0400 > Subject: Striking quotations by/about Virginia > immigrants > > > >From "Ayres, Edward S." > <edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov> > Sent Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:08 am To > john.saillant@wmich.edu > Subject Striking quotations by/about Virginia > immigrants > > The Yorktown Victory Center of the > Jamestown-Yorktown Foundation is > planning a new permanent exhibit entitled "A Nation > of Immigrants" that > will open in the late Summer of 2006. This exhibit > will focus on > immigration to Virginia primarily during the period > from 1700 to about > 1860, with a special emphasis on the > post-Revolutionary and early > National periods. The exhibit team would like to > identify four or five > contemporary, "quotable" statements ca 1700-1830 by > or about Virginia > immigrants or groups, their experiences, and what > drew them to Virginia > or drove them to leave their homeland. Even > statements that do not > specifically refer to Virginia, but would > nevertheless be valid, could > be useful. Any examples or suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Edward Ayres, Historian > Yorktown Victory Center > Yorktown, Virginia > > ph (757) 847-3129 fax (757) 887-1306 > > email: edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Folks, I was talking off line to someone about Greers and Greggs, etc -- McGregor surnames (they were attainted and could not use their su rname). Turns out there is a McGregor DNA study that supports the usual stuff one is told: -- they probably originated in Ireland (Dalraidic) -- they adopted others into the clan http://www.clangregor.org/macgregor/dna.html Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi folks, Check out http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php Type in genealogy . There's a lot of genealogy for sale at this self publish website. It can cost $50 to buy a low volume self published family hostory. WIth Lulu you publish on line. It's cheaper. I was surprised at how much is there. I will soon have a book we must publish or should publish. A long study of McCamish/McCarmish/McAmis/McAmish/McCarmack/ McComas into McCormicks, tracing the origins of 3 brothers, dropped off by a UFO in Virginia. They dont' appear to be related to the families in PA or the family in northern VA or the family nearby (Micajah McCarmack in Bedford Co, VA). they were in Campbell Co, VA and then moved about 1780 or so to eastern TN where the name became McAmis. ... In any case we were able to prove they are NOT related to these other groups and probably DID come from Ulster as one family legend has it. So we'll also be building a website for a DNA study. So this is a cheap way to publish a book, apparently! Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Listers, I am new to the list and wanted to post my main area of interest. After 10 years of research/searching here is what I have: Alexander Orr (my 4th great grandfather) b about 1750 perhaps in Ireland; m about 1770 to Martha Unknown perhaps Ireland; d in 1821 Caldwell Co KY USA. His known deeds & land grants have been obtained and he is first found in 1779 in Tryon Co (later Rutherford) NC, 1790 in Pendleton Co, SC and 1800 in Livingston/Christian/Caldwell Co KY where he died in 1821 leaving a will. My quest is to locate his family prior to 1779 and ultimately his location in Ireland. Can I find a marriage record about 1770? A birth record of his first born children about 1771-1773? Would it be possible to find his birth record about 1750 and his birth family/origins? Am I out of my mind? He just doesn't turn up prior to 1779 anywhere that I can find having searched online in NC, SC, PA, VA, MD, DE. There is a letter I have from his great grandson, a physician in southern Illinois, stating that his grandfather came to the USA as a young boy. His grandfather was Hugh Orr, born about 1773, son of Alexander & Martha. If factual, that would put the migration from Ireland between 1773-1779. That is the best I have been able to turn up! Thanks so much, Nancy (Orr) Erb St. Clair County, Michigan

Does this work?: "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scotch-Irish of that region and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger." George Washington, Valley Forge. -----Original Message----- From: rkmacmaster@aol.com [mailto:rkmacmaster@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:30 AM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Fwd: Striking quotations by/about Virginia immigrants -----Original Message----- From: John Saillant, W. Michigan Univ. <john.saillant@WMICH.EDU> To: H-OIEAHC@H-NET.MSU.EDU Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 06:25:17 -0400 Subject: Striking quotations by/about Virginia immigrants >From "Ayres, Edward S." <edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov> Sent Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:08 am To john.saillant@wmich.edu Subject Striking quotations by/about Virginia immigrants The Yorktown Victory Center of the Jamestown-Yorktown Foundation is planning a new permanent exhibit entitled "A Nation of Immigrants" that will open in the late Summer of 2006. This exhibit will focus on immigration to Virginia primarily during the period from 1700 to about 1860, with a special emphasis on the post-Revolutionary and early National periods. The exhibit team would like to identify four or five contemporary, "quotable" statements ca 1700-1830 by or about Virginia immigrants or groups, their experiences, and what drew them to Virginia or drove them to leave their homeland. Even statements that do not specifically refer to Virginia, but would nevertheless be valid, could be useful. Any examples or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Edward Ayres, Historian Yorktown Victory Center Yorktown, Virginia ph (757) 847-3129 fax (757) 887-1306 email: edward.ayres@jyf.virginia.gov

The Ireland Genealogy Projects County Armagh website has been updated. The following townland pages have either been added or updated: Annagghmare, Annaghgad, Ballynacarry, Cappagh, Carran, Carrickmone, Cloghoge, Clonalig, Corliss, Cornahave, Creenkill, Creevekeeran, Creggan Bane Glebe, Cregganduff, Cullaville, Ummeracam Johnston, Crossmaglen, Drumbally, Loughross, Claranagh, Clarbane, Cullyhanna Big & Little, Dorsy, Drumboy, Drumlougher, Drumgose, Drummuck, Drummuckavall, Freeduff, Glasdrummanaghy, Lisamry, Liscalgat, Lissaraw, Monaguillagh, Monog, Moybane, Rathkeelan, Sheetrim, Sheiland, Teer, Teer Island, Tullyard, Tullynavall, Ummeracam North & South, Urcher, Ballynaclosha, Carnally, Coolderry, Cornoonagh, Glasdrumman, Legmoylin, Lurgancullenboy, Mounthill, Tullydonnell Gage & O'Callaghan, Cullyhanna Town. A webpage for the civil parish of Creggan has been added with links, resources and townlands. The Resource section, Links section and Records section also have been updated. You can check out the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ If you have comments, additions, links and or surname/townland requests, write me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi Helen It never occurred to me that you were the Tech for that site. It was posted and I thought you may have accessed it and knew the way. It just didnt ever want to open for me. Sorry if it took your time. Didnt want to do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scotch-Irish-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V05 #158 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 9/6/05

Robson -- I am trying to find where my great grand father John Robson about 1855 - 1916 was born, he died at Nanaimo, B C. His mother was Mary Angus his father was Thomas Robson a farmer, John had a brother Tom and 9 sisters. His mother Mary died, his father remarried and John and Tom ran away from home to the goldfields of Australia. They became separated John came to B C married and raised a family who are all accounted for. I am assuming that Tom would be within 2 years in age of John ie born 1855 to 1859. I have not been able to find where they were born or lived. Various records for John indicate, Ontario, USA and Scotland. About a year ago I found a marriage on the IGI for Thomas and Mary, in 1845 in Ireland, I am hoping for a connection to this couple.

I have a -- Mary Frances Cobb and Joseph McCutcheon father of William Augustus McCutcheon born Jan 28, 1837 Richmond Hill, Ontario. William was my great grandfather. Is there anyone there interested in Cobb in the Ontario or Ireland areas?

I am trying to finalise my family tree and I would like to be able to add my g.g.g.grandfather John SHANNON born around 1790/1800 and grandmother Martha McLURE born around the same time. They had one son, Hugh SHANNON, born Derry around 1822, that I know of who married Margaret HAMILTON, born Antrim around 1822, in Glasgow on 12 October 1838. If someone out there can help I would greatly appreciate it. Andrew

It is a real joy to see people pull together. This can bring the best and the worst out in people. I heard in Memphis, they also are providing their own homes to strangers. I am very impressed with the goodness that is in people's hearts :) Mary Lou Tannich -----Original Message----- From: Scotch-Irish-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:Scotch-Irish-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BHold1@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:32 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re:More on HURRICANE There are other things that you don't see on the national news, and it is not all bad news. I live in Austin, TX. We currently have close over 800 people from the New Orleans area living here. Many left before the storm and have been here 7-10 days. I belong to an e-mail list that has set up a list of people, who are willing to house families. Hundreds have signed up to do this. The Red Cross will not work to help with the housing effort because of the legal issues, which is understandable. People in Austin are driving over to the shelter and taking people home with them. The people from New Orleans are very grateful for the help and are now thinking they might want to stay and live in our city. One of our local industries has provided jobs. We don't need as many city buses on the weekend as we do during the week, therefore a caravan of our city buses left today to go to New Orleans for more. The same thing is happening in San Antonio and Dallas and many cities in between. An individual resident of Austin donated $10,000 to the Red Cross today. Everyone I talk to has made a financial donation. Children are giving their allowance. Complaining will not get us anywhere. Choose what you will do and do it. Bettye Austin, TX