Hi Mavis, You should start with "Scotch-Irish" by Hanna, which contains critically important source material of the period that you are interested in: ie the Montgomery Papers as well as some other documentation regarding the settlement of Antrim. This is a book, found in most libraries, for sale in bookstores, on the Internet, and also on a CD. You can then turn to the back of the book for additional leads in the bibliography. I think!! I'm moving and all my materials are .... somewhere! on a moving van, or I'd do some checking for you. Certainly HAMILTON is a major name of reference in the settlement of County Down. The history of the settlement of every county in Ulster is different so if it is not Down you mean, you need to ID the county to help us steer you towards useful sources. Very best, Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Capt Douglas" <mavis1735@earthlink.net> Reply-To: mavis1735@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:12:46 -0500 >Hi, >I am looking for information about the Douglas's who went to Ireland as part of the Ulster Plantation. The Douglas from whom I am descended is the Rev. William Douglas (1771-1860) born nr. Lurgan. > >I have the following which states "that he went over with a lord Hamilton to take charge of ulster. " Any help will be appreciated as I am researching this period of 1611 - 1771. > >Many thanks, >Doogles. > > >Mavis Douglas >mavis1735@earthlink.net > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hello all, LibraryIreland.com has added a few chapters from the Proceedings of the Scotch-Irish Society as a free resource. Only a few are there at the moment, but more will be added soon. Visit http://www.libraryireland.com and search for "scotch irish". (LibraryIreland.com is a sister site of BooksUlster.com) Regards, Mark

Ulster-Scots Society of America Convention You are cordially invited to join The Ulster-Scots Society of America as we celebrate our history and heritage! *What: * 2nd Annual Convention of the Ulster-Scots Society of America When: Friday, October 14, 2005 (6:00 pm  10:00 pm) Saturday, October 15, 2005 (9:00 pm  12:00 noon) *Where: * Holiday Inn Express* (Friday evening) *Discounted group rate $79.95, suites an additional $10.00 713 Transit Ave., I-575 Exit 20 Canton, GA 30114 (770) 479-7300 Email: hiecanton@alltel.net Directions: http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/ex/1/en/direction/catga *The Funk Heritage Center* (Saturday Morning) 7300 Reinhardt College Circle Waleska, GA 30183-2981 Phone 770-720-5970 *Featuring: * Billy Kennedy, Author and Editor of The Ulster-Scot The Atlanta OEW Choir, singing selections from  On Eagle`s Wing Dr. Joe Kitchens, Director - Funk Heritage Center *Cost: * $25 per person includes wine and cheese reception, dinner, and admission to the Heritage Center. Please remit your payment by October 7th directly to Robert Babb, Treasurer, Ulster-Scots Society of America at 116 Talicud Trail, Apex, NC USA 27539. Your check should be made out to the Ulster-Scots Society of America. Room reservations should be made directly with the hotel. *Questions &* Melinda Shannon Freels, Officer-at-Large Contact: The Ulster-Scots Society of America Email: mglfreel@bellsouth.net (770) 509-0752 or (404) 660-0317 *Agenda: * Friday, Oct. 14 the Holiday Inn Express 6:00 pm  6:30 pm Wine and Cheese Reception 6:30 pm  7:15 pm Catered Buffet Dinner 7:15 pm  7:30 pm Break 7:30 pm  8:30 pm Billy Kennedy Lecture and Book Signing 8:30 pm  9:00 pm  On Eagle s Wing Presentation 9:00 pm  10:00 pm General Meeting/Elections -bers only Saturday, Oct. 15 at Funk Heritage Center - Reinhardt College 9:00am  9:30 am Meet and Greet, Coffee 9:30am  10:00 am Dr. Joe Kitchens Lecture 10:00am  10:15 am Break 10:15am  12:00 noon Guided Tour of Heritage Center This should be a wonderful weekend! While in the Atlanta area, you ll want to check out the famous Stone Mountain Highland Games which are going on this weekend. More information is available online at http://www.smhg.org/ or by email at webmaster@smhg.org. Driving time from the hotel in Canton to Stone Mountain is approximately one hour. Other recommended sites are nearby Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield and historic Marietta Square featuring the Gone with the Wind Museum and many fabulous antique shops. You may want to take in historic Roswell with its many art galleries, Bulloch Hall and Smith Plantation. Chickamauga Battlefield is approximately 60 miles north of Canton. And of course, for the more adventurous, downtown Atlanta beckons with world-class shopping and dining! Please contact Melinda directly if you would like more information on any of these places. *About Author  Journalist Billy Kennedy* Billy Kennedy is a journalist of wide recognition in Northern Ireland for over 30 years. With the Ulster/Belfast News Letter, a newspaper founded in 1737, he has been a news editor, assistant editor, and leader writer. He is also a public relations consultant, author, and lecturer. His abiding interest is in the Scots-Irish settlement on the American frontier, and through his authorship, Billy Kennedy has lectured in major cities and towns in the southeastern Appalachian region, on the eastern seaboard, and in Texas. *Funk Heritage Center* Located on the picturesque Reinhardt College campus in Waleska, Georgia, the Funk Heritage Center is in a contemporary building inspired by Indian designs. The museum interprets the story of the Southeastern Indians and the early Appalachian settlers through dioramas, interactive displays, artifacts and exhibits of contemporary Native American art. On the museum s grounds is a recreated early 19th century settlers village. There is also a special  Tools of the Trades exhibit which features thousands of tools from more than 100 crafts and trades, many dating from the 18th and 19th centuries. Guided tours of the museum take 90 minutes. *The 33rd Annual Stone Mountain Games* The annual celebration takes place over a three-day weekend period primarily in one of two venues: The Festival grounds on the meadow at Stone Mountain Park and the Host Hotel (Marriott Century Center). For those new to our festival you might expect something akin to a three-ring circus... only on a much bigger scale. The festival grounds are divided into three main meadow areas featuring non-stop activities. Add to this, smaller surrounding areas featuring competition on Highland Bagpipes, Drums, Highland Dance and Harping. If this is not enough there are two stage performance areas featuring musical acts from around the country, a stage area for Scottish Country Dance exhibitions, and Fiddling workshops and you find almost too much to see in one day (or even one weekend). This is of course not all that is offered. As evening falls, more formal events move indoors to the Host Hotel convention facilities. Events taking place at this location include an Invitational Piping Competition, Whiskey Tasting Seminar, Sponsor's welcoming reception and a fabulous final "Scottish Evening" featuring entertainment and dancing (of a Scottish nature of course).

Best of luck with the move, Linda, and you may well be moving to just the right place to do some research for me, on a fellow called Jacob Forsyth, who was "one of the crown princes of the Pennsylvania Railroad" and was in Pittsburgh before moving to Chicago, and then to East Chicago where he became known as the father of the Calumet region. "The "Big Deal Closed In Whiting," headlined in the Lake County Times on Jan. 6, 1914, was consummated by Oliver Osborne Forsyth, the only surviving sane male of Jacob Forsyth's brood of nine. For many years, Oliver had been the person Jacob relied on. He was the steady one. When the Forsyth homestead in Indiana Harbor was wiped out by the holocaust of 1871, Oliver saved the books in Jacob's library. When Jacob was fighting off Hammond's attempts to annex Forsyth property, Oliver was a field general. And on all the property deals after Jacob's death in 1899, Oliver was the one and only voice. Oliver Osborne Forsyth was born in Pittsburgh on June 15, 1856. He attended the Hellmuth College in Ontario, Canada, and later Pennsylvania Military Academy. When his father, one of the crown princes of the Pennsylvania Railroad, transferred to Chicago in 1857, Chicago and the Calumet Region became Oliver's home. At one point in the battle over what became Hammond's 4th War, Oliver found himself in the middle of what could have been a border war. On Jan. 16, 1896, the federal appellate court held for Jacob Forsyth, and the Swamp Baron quickly called for a jollification: "We will have a celebration on the tract and I will be there to see that the boys make a big bonfire and plenty of noise." Jacob sought out cannons "the same size and pattern that are mounted in front of the Libby prison," cannons that would make so much noise when fired over the Forsyth tract that all the citizens of Hammond would be startled. So, Jacob dispatched OIiver to fetch such a cannon. Oliver immediately consulted C.F. Gunther, who owned the Libby prison cannon, and began to negotiate the loan of the artillery for the occasion; a friend of his negotiated with Capt. Russell of Battery D for the services of a squad of artillerymen to work the cannon. Fortunately for interstate relations, Gunther had a cool head. He said that because the Forsyth tract lay "across the border of the friendly state of Indiana," and because the cannon was in the service of the state of Illinois, to haul it across the state line would be the equivalent of declaring war on Indiana. Oliver settled for dynamite." Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Merle" <merle@mail.fea.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish list > Hi folks, > > If you are reading this email you are still subscribed to the > Scotch-Irish list, which has been quiet. I'm the adminstrator. > Feel free to post an email (kinda on topic, please!). > > I'll be unavailable for rabble rousing for the next few days > as I am moving on Friday 550 miles in a car with a dog and > three cats. Pray for me. I hope I remember the ear plugs. > > That means my house here in Massachusetts has sold. I have > a new old house near Pittsburgh, PA, where I was born, > that should close next Monday. Of course Lord knows when the > furniture will arrive, so I'll be camping out. I also don't > have an internet link firmed up yet -- DSL or cable???, but > I can get on line at my parents. Hopefully by this time next > week I'll be starting to recover from the nightmare. And I > sure do hope I don't have to go ANYWHERE but maybe Harrisburg > for genealogy, till next spring. > > If you are on I80 Friday I'll be the car going by with the > hollering cats... > > In the meantime Rev. Andrews will be minding the list from > Scotland. > > Linda Merle > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net > > > > >

Hi Bill, >I've only had two passes through the Carnegie Library and hope for many >more. I'm curious, though. You mention seminary libraries. Which ones, and >where are they located? Well the two that I know of off the top of my head is the UP library and the RP library, attached to seminaries. A million pardons but the books are packed so to come up with the names of these seminaries do a google for seminary presbyterian pittsburgh. > So I can hit them next time I'm down there. You'd do best to make contact before hand so you arrive when they are open. Ie during a session. I know the RP one often closes down when the students are not around. The librarian may be there, unless he went on vacation, and then he can let you in. Which he is more likely to do if he's already figured out you are 'okay'. There are not facilities for helping people who have no library skills. >Also, my son just married a Kelly Gallagher from Pittsburgh on July 30. >Although they live in Cleveland, I'm friends with her folks now, so I maybe >I'll even have a place to stay. :) That's great! And you've given me a great idea for a B&B <grin>. The catalog for the Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Library is on line. It is housed in Carnegie Library, so there's two gen libraries in that building, and two collections. It's on something like www.wpgs.org ....if that don't work, google. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Linda, Your returning home to what had been my family's roots (after a short stint in Albany, N.Y., where I suppose they worked on the canal.) They homesteaded on part of Braddock's Field in the early 1830s. I've only had two passes through the Carnegie Library and hope for many more. I'm curious, though. You mention seminary libraries. Which ones, and where are they located? So I can hit them next time I'm down there. Also, my son just married a Kelly Gallagher from Pittsburgh on July 30. Although they live in Cleveland, I'm friends with her folks now, so I maybe I'll even have a place to stay. :) Thanks, Bill McKinney Erie, Pa.

I'm excited. Our leader will be around the corner from me. Judith Brown Pittsburgh, PA www.pafairtax.org   "We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward restoring for our children the American dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.” – Ronald Reagan   “The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded." --C. L. De Montesquieu -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Beck [mailto:ginia2@san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:42 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Good luck & a safe fourney! Don't know if it's Scotch-Irish, or just Irish, but here's a toast that seems appropriate. "Walls for the wind, And a roof for the rain, An drinks beside the fire - Laughter to cheer you And those you love near you And all that your heart may desire! All the best, Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 9/26/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005

Hi Linda.... since you will be in Pittsburgh, Pa.... you might try . and Carnegi Instutuee or what ever that building is downtown by the Pitt College.... they have a pretty large library.... not sure what you will be looking for but I would try there first before the trip to Harrisburg... and that's quite a haul from Pitt ... I've done it .... best of luck on the move.... maybe play some music your Kat Kids & dog would like to keep them resting ! Mill

Hi Mill, There's a lot of good libraries in PGH. I've been to a number of them. You mean the Carnegie Library, I think. Also the two (at least) seminary libraries are very good, with little redundancy. I don't know what i'm going to Harrisburg for <grin>! Maybe to work on my own family for once?? Would be nice for a change. If I get this book finsihed. I have spent weeks and weeks doing the bibliography. This is worse than grad school. Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Rootsgirl50@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:13:57 EDT >Hi Linda.... since you will be in Pittsburgh, Pa.... you might try . and >Carnegi Instutuee or what ever that building is downtown by the Pitt College.... >they have a pretty large library.... not sure what you will be looking for but >I would try there first before the trip to Harrisburg... and that's quite a >haul from Pitt ... I've done it .... > >best of luck on the move.... maybe play some music your Kat Kids & dog would >like to keep them resting ! > >Mill > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Linda, Well, you have sold your house in Ma & are on your way. I wish you all the best in your new home. If I knew a Scotch-Irish toast, I would say it now, but I don't. Janet New England

Linda, Good luck with your move -- been there, done that with the cat thing! Two cats and a three week old baby from Georgia to Michigan! Took days. Ugh. Anyways, since list is slow, for those interested in how New Orleans is salvaging its priceless genealogy records, you can go to this link. There is an interesting article by Gordon Watts from Canada. http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0076.htm Just scroll halfway down to the article entitled "After Katrina". Take care, Donna Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Linda Merle [mailto:merle@mail.fea.net] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:47 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Scotch Irish list Hi folks, If you are reading this email you are still subscribed to the Scotch-Irish list, which has been quiet. I'm the adminstrator. Feel free to post an email (kinda on topic, please!). I'll be unavailable for rabble rousing for the next few days as I am moving on Friday 550 miles in a car with a dog and three cats. Pray for me. I hope I remember the ear plugs. That means my house here in Massachusetts has sold. I have a new old house near Pittsburgh, PA, where I was born, that should close next Monday. Of course Lord knows when the furniture will arrive, so I'll be camping out. I also don't have an internet link firmed up yet -- DSL or cable???, but I can get on line at my parents. Hopefully by this time next week I'll be starting to recover from the nightmare. And I sure do hope I don't have to go ANYWHERE but maybe Harrisburg for genealogy, till next spring. If you are on I80 Friday I'll be the car going by with the hollering cats... In the meantime Rev. Andrews will be minding the list from Scotland. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Don't know if it's Scotch-Irish, or just Irish, but here's a toast that seems appropriate. "Walls for the wind, And a roof for the rain, An drinks beside the fire - Laughter to cheer you And those you love near you And all that your heart may desire! All the best, Virginia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 9/26/2005

Hi folks, If you are reading this email you are still subscribed to the Scotch-Irish list, which has been quiet. I'm the adminstrator. Feel free to post an email (kinda on topic, please!). I'll be unavailable for rabble rousing for the next few days as I am moving on Friday 550 miles in a car with a dog and three cats. Pray for me. I hope I remember the ear plugs. That means my house here in Massachusetts has sold. I have a new old house near Pittsburgh, PA, where I was born, that should close next Monday. Of course Lord knows when the furniture will arrive, so I'll be camping out. I also don't have an internet link firmed up yet -- DSL or cable???, but I can get on line at my parents. Hopefully by this time next week I'll be starting to recover from the nightmare. And I sure do hope I don't have to go ANYWHERE but maybe Harrisburg for genealogy, till next spring. If you are on I80 Friday I'll be the car going by with the hollering cats... In the meantime Rev. Andrews will be minding the list from Scotland. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

I'm looking for the family of William Gregg-Gragg sr. who came with some of his family to America on the immigrant ship "Lord Dunluce" with the Rev. William Martin. The members of the Greg family were: Mary, John, Jane, Ninian and William. They petitioned for land in Newberry co. S.C. in Jan. 1773. William may have had a wife and one child. William would have been born abt. 1743 from what I can surmise, but my surmising hasn't panned out yet. The ships from Ireland were mostly Presbyterian and there were 5 ships that came to S.C. in 1772. Williams wife was Jane and he had children in the U.S. named Nancy, John, William, Mary and Thomas. I am looking for any scrap of info on this family. Fran

Hi folks, This is from a list member who is informing us of an expansion of service that the LDS church is offering. Click on the items below. Linda Merle (List Admin) MICROFILM DATA IN LDS CANYON VAULTS TO GO ONLINE Ever wonder what's inside those secured vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood Canyon? http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,605153113,00.html http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C605153113%2C00.html ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi listers My name is Sandra and I live in Queensland in Australi. I have a family line of Patrick McMahon and Winefred Flood from Pettigo in Fermanagh Ireland. Most of the family sailed to Sydney Australia in the early 1850s. However one of their sons William Hugh McMahon married Annie Devine in Lanark Scotland and had their first son James there in 1853, before they followed the rest of the family to Oz. I would be grateful for any information on this family thanks in advance Sandra in sunny Qld Australia

Hello Karen, Copies from Presbyterian Registers can only be made with the written permission of the Church. Best way is to write directly to The Clerk of Session Clare Presbyterian Church 10 Clare Road Tandragee Craigavon County Armagh N Ireland BT622EY Best of luck to you! regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com >From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> >To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] County Armagh website update >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:32:16 -0400 > >By any chance, is anyone familiar with a town (or townland?) named Clare in >Co. Armagh? My grandfather's grandparents were married in a Presbyterian >Church in Clare in Co. Armagh on March 15, 1840 before leaving for Canada. >Their names were Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly. I would like to get a copy >of a marriage certificate if possible. Can anyone give me an idea about >how I might do that? >Karen Hart Anthony > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> >To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:50 PM >Subject: [Sc-Ir] County Armagh website update > > >>The Ireland Genealogy Projects County Armagh website has been updated. The >>following townland pages have either been added or updated: Annagghmare, >>Annaghgad, Ballynacarry, Cappagh, Carran, Carrickmone, Cloghoge, Clonalig, >>Corliss, Cornahave, Creenkill, Creevekeeran, Creggan Bane Glebe, >>Cregganduff, Cullaville, Ummeracam Johnston, Crossmaglen, Drumbally, >>Loughross, Claranagh, Clarbane, Cullyhanna Big & Little, Dorsy, Drumboy, >>Drumlougher, Drumgose, Drummuck, Drummuckavall, Freeduff, Glasdrummanaghy, >>Lisamry, Liscalgat, Lissaraw, Monaguillagh, Monog, Moybane, Rathkeelan, >>Sheetrim, Sheiland, Teer, Teer Island, Tullyard, Tullynavall, Ummeracam >>North & South, Urcher, Ballynaclosha, Carnally, Coolderry, Cornoonagh, >>Glasdrumman, Legmoylin, Lurgancullenboy, Mounthill, Tullydonnell Gage & >>O'Callaghan, Cullyhanna Town. >> >>A webpage for the civil parish of Creggan has been added with links, >>resources and townlands. The Resource section, Links section and Records >>section also have been updated. You can check out the website at: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ >>If you have comments, additions, links and or surname/townland requests, >>write me off list. >> >>-- >>Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >>http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Found this article, hopefully it helps someone in their quest to locate their family. Rose C I search the surnames Lang {k} ford; Mince; Merck and CRANSTON The Atlanta Journal, Saturday, August 8, 1908. Cuttings Book 36 THE COMING OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH FROM IRELAND TO ST. GEORGE'S PARISH REV. GEORGE G.SMITH,VINEVILLE,MACON GA. The only large colony of Scotch-Irish people who came to Georgia from the North of Ireland came through the influence of John Rae, George Galphin and Lacklin McGilveray between 1769 and 1771. John Rae, one of the leaders in this movement was a Scotch-Irishman, an Indian trader who was here in 1741 and perhaps several years before it. He lived in Augusta but had property near Savannah: in now Burke and Jefferson and in St.Pauls now Richmond and Colombia counties. He was a member of the assembly from St. Pauls and was a man of great public spirit and influence. George Galphin did not live in Georgia. He too was a Scotch-Irishman. He was an Indian trader, and though his home was at Silver Bluff,[South Carolina], he lived much of his time among the Indians on the Ogeechee. There was a Galphins old town some ten miles south of Louisville for a long time and afterward Galphin new town, two miles from that place. He did an immense business and acquired much wealth. His influence over the Indians was unbounded, and they owed him much money, which they tried to pay by making a large concession of lands which included the best part of Middle Georgia to the provincial government, it agreeing to pay him what the Indians owed him. Lachland McGilveray was a Highlander and a large Indian trader. He had come to America a pennyless boy, and had made an immense fortune. While not a Scotch-Irishman he had close affiliation with that people, united with Rae and Galphin in promoting their coming to Georgia. It may not be amiss before writing of this middle Georgia colony to say something of a general nature about the Scotch-Irish in Ireland. They were Scotch almost entirely, but they lived in Ireland. During the days of Elizabeth, the Irish chieftains rebelled against her, partly because they were always rebelling and partly because she tried to make them forsake the Roman Catholic faith. They fought fiercely but as was always the case with them, they were defeated and lands were taken from the most obnoxious. When James succeeded Elizabeth he had a large amount of vacant land on his hands, from which the owners had been driven, and he gave it to his favourites. They were to settle it with Scotchman and so they did.They did not love the Irish, and the Irish hated them heartily. Then, forty years later the Irish followed James II., and went down again, and the Scotch followed William of Orange and then there was more land and more Scotchmen. So the old Celt disappeared from upper Ireland, and the Scotch ruled it; but the land was narrow and the people many, and early in the 18th century they began to find homes in the "new world" America. They went to New England and Maryland and Virginia, Pennsylvania, and the two Carolinas. Some few of them came to Georgia, first as Indian traders and then as farmers; but still Ireland was crowded with needy people, and Georgia needed settlers. So these canny men Rae, Galphin and M'Gilveray set to work to bring them over. Forty thousand of as good acres as the sun shone on were set apart for them by the council. They were aided by the council in every way. Their passage was paid out and two shiploads came to Savannah and were sent by the council to make a new settlement on the Opeechee. The descendents of these worthy ante-Burghers are many and some of them still live on their ancestral homesteads in Jefferson county, and somewhat proudly bring out their grants from "George III., by the Grace of God King," etc. which have been carefully preserved by them for near 150 years. Although I have in the alphabetical list I have published alluded to most of them, yet it will be more satisfactory to give the lists as they appear on the record. There were two shiploads. The ship Hopewell, Captain Ash of Londonderry, came in December 1769. The ship Britannia, came in 1772. The list of the first immigrants cannot be found, but the grants of lots in Queensboro enables us to make a pretty good conjecture of who at least some of them were. They were Thomas Beatty, Alexander Bags (now Hogg), John Bartholomew, John Brown, James Blair, John Martin (blacksmith), Adam Mori- Greer, Robert Gervin, William Harding, James Huden, John Kennedy, Mathew Lyle (ancestor of Mrs. John W. Grant), John Martin (blacksmith), Adam Morison, John Morison, Adam McTurvey, William McConkey, Jas. McCalsey, Matthew Moore, David Russell, Jos. Sanders, Walker Stevens, William Skelly, James Thompson, Robert Warnock. There are not a few Atlanta people who can find their ancestory in this list. The Britannia's manifest is similar. There were James Black, with a wife, two children and five servants: John McGee: Jas. Harris, wife and three children, Henry Hurd, wife, and (as it is written,) one children: Margaret Sloan: Isabella Irwin and eight daughters: Frances Mountain, wife and three children: Henry Lewis and wife: Thomas Wolfington, wife and three children: William Murray and one servant, Samuel McAllisten: Samuel Little, wife and four children, Edward Thompson, wife and three children: Samuel Barren, wife and one child, John McCalvey and wife: James Hogg, wife and four children, now Hogue: William Tomkins: John Gamball and five children, ancestor of Judge Rodger L. Gamble: Richard Peel, a wife and child: John Chambers, a wife and six children; John Scott, a wife and four children: Moses McMichan (McMakin): John Dickson, a wife and child: William Hannah, a wife and one child: Edward Rodgers, a wife and one child: Michael Beatty, a wife and two children, John Boggs, Joseph [_ _ _ _ ?] John Wilson, a wife and four children: John Todd: John Crozier, a wife, a child, and a servant: Thomas Little, a wife and five children: John Breckenrey, a wife and one child: Robert Hanna and his wife: Rich Fleeting, a wife and one child: John Shaw: David Irwin and wife: John Murlock, wife and two children: John Peel: John Campbell, wife and five children, David Morrow, wife and two children: Robert Rodgers: James McMichan, wife and three children: John Fenlay, wife and three children, now Fenley: A[Arthur?] O'Neal: George Cook, wife and two children: John Gilmore and wife, ancestor of Judge Gilmore of Washington: Felix (Phelex) McGee: Matthew Burr: John Busby, wife, child and one servant: William McReery: John Martin, George Thompson, William Brown, Seb Witherup, Esther Tweedy, four children and one servant: John Fulton, wife, two children and one servant: James McCroan, Thomas McCroan, his wife and child: John Manealy, wife and five children, Isaac Laremore went to Ohio. There were 217 in all. Some of them were able to bring servants with them, most of them were married and nearly all were poor. They landed at Savannah and had to make their way over a hundred miles to the banks of the upper Ogeechee. They had lands granted in what is now the heart of Jefferson. As one leaves Savannah on the Central railway and comes the 100 miles to Wadley, he passes through much the same country through which these wanderers made their way. There where no public conveyances, and only trails for roads. The country in which they settled had only a little while before been claimed by the Indians and used as a hunting ground. The council ordered a road cut to Queensboro, the projected town, and it is possible that few belongings were conveyed up the Ogeechee in flat bottomed pole boats. Perhaps Rae, McGalpin and McGilveray furnished pack horses, of which they had large numbers and drivers to aid the immigrants on their way. If these good anti-Burghers had any chronicle I have never seen it. They had the usual hardships of pioneers, but none of the distressing experiences of the earliest comers to America. The woods were full of game. The creeks and rivers teeming with fish: the Indians friendly and doubtless Messers. Rae McGalphin and McGilveray gave them all the help they needed. They had been used to to thatched cabins in Ireland and to hardships in a severe climate, and they were soon as well off in the new world with comfortable houses built of logs and boards,as of the stone and thatch of Ireland. They were accustomed to toil and they soon made the wilderness to blossom. They brought with them a pastor, staunch anti-Burgher, and brought their catechisms and psalm books, and had religious services in their cabins as soon as they were built. ----------------------------------------------------------

I received them today. I know the year(s), ship(s), port(s) of arrival and port of departure (Liverpool England) for my grandfather and two uncles. I was always told they came directly into Philadelphia but alas it was New York and Boston. I have the addresses of where they were living at the time of naturalization. It includes the names of the sponsors, occupations and so much more. They waited 10 years before filing their intent(s). Answers lots of questions but also creates questions. I now need to track down my third uncle, mother, and grandmother. Is it possible my grandmother never became a citizen? Could my mother have automatically become naturalized simply by marrying my father? The shocker is that my grandfather came into Boston. On with my search. Judith Brown www.pafairtax.org   "We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward restoring for our children the American dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.” – Ronald Reagan   “The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded." --C. L. De Montesquieu

By any chance, is anyone familiar with a town (or townland?) named Clare in Co. Armagh? My grandfather's grandparents were married in a Presbyterian Church in Clare in Co. Armagh on March 15, 1840 before leaving for Canada. Their names were Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly. I would like to get a copy of a marriage certificate if possible. Can anyone give me an idea about how I might do that? Karen Hart Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] County Armagh website update > The Ireland Genealogy Projects County Armagh website has been updated. > The following townland pages have either been added or updated: > Annagghmare, Annaghgad, Ballynacarry, Cappagh, Carran, Carrickmone, > Cloghoge, Clonalig, Corliss, Cornahave, Creenkill, Creevekeeran, Creggan > Bane Glebe, Cregganduff, Cullaville, Ummeracam Johnston, Crossmaglen, > Drumbally, Loughross, Claranagh, Clarbane, Cullyhanna Big & Little, Dorsy, > Drumboy, Drumlougher, Drumgose, Drummuck, Drummuckavall, Freeduff, > Glasdrummanaghy, Lisamry, Liscalgat, Lissaraw, Monaguillagh, Monog, > Moybane, Rathkeelan, Sheetrim, Sheiland, Teer, Teer Island, Tullyard, > Tullynavall, Ummeracam North & South, Urcher, Ballynaclosha, Carnally, > Coolderry, Cornoonagh, Glasdrumman, Legmoylin, Lurgancullenboy, Mounthill, > Tullydonnell Gage & O'Callaghan, Cullyhanna Town. > > A webpage for the civil parish of Creggan has been added with links, > resources and townlands. The Resource section, Links section and Records > section also have been updated. You can check out the website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ > If you have comments, additions, links and or surname/townland requests, > write me off list. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > >