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    1. Banbridge births updated
    2. the_researcher
    3. I have updated the births and christenings (Civil & Quaker) for Banbridge on my website, the website search engine will not pick up the new names till Monday, but you can browse through them now by going to the Banbridge index page of the website, scroll to last page of births, information given, Childs name ,Fathers name and Mothers maiden name, and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

    01/03/2006 02:15:46
    1. 'The Scotch-Irish in Virginia'
    2. From Cyndis List, Dec 30, 2005. Marybeth C. ======================== << URL: http://www.libraryireland.com/articles/ScotchIrishVirginiaFiske/index.php TITLE: The Scotch-Irish in Virginia DESCRIPTION: An account of the influence of the Scotch-Irish emigration to Virgina, the Carolinas, and beyond. >>

    01/03/2006 01:40:04
    1. Hanchett
    2. maggie and adrian
    3. Possibly a corruption of the French surname Hannequet, derived from the ancient first name Hane and Hanon. And if so, obviously not SI. Greetings from down under, New Zealand Adrian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005

    01/03/2006 11:16:14
    1. RE: [Sc-Ir] Coleraine history
    2. Connie Shotts
    3. I am interested in knowing more about the area of Coleraine in County Londonderry. Family history (from a 1914 book) has it that my Brewster/Bruster ancestor - James (born about 1727) was born in Coleraine and went with his family to America as a teen -- probably settling in what became Augusta County VA. I believe his father may have been Henry Brewster/Bruster. The Brewsters were for many generations entwined with the Dunns and the Alexanders (my ggg-grandfather William Alexander married James Brewster's daughter Agnes). The story goes that James Brewster and James Dunn were born within a half mile of each other in Ireland (Coleraine), lived within a half mile of each other in Virginia (Augusta County), moved to Jessamine County KY within a half mile of each other, and were buried on their farms within a half mile of each other. I would very much appreciate recommendations for background reading on the Coleraine area during the 1600s and 1700s and for any hints about whether any records might exist for these Brewsters and Dunns. Thanks, Connie Connie Shotts Charlotte, NC -----Original Message----- From: Boyd Gray [mailto:boydgray26@utvinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:48 AM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Gray Family Hi Janet, Five years ago, I would have been dancing up and down and throwing my hat in the air when I read your message to Linda about the Grays and the Boyds. My interest in genealogy began as a quest to find the origin of my unusual Christian name and I would have thought that you had given me the answer. I knew quite a lot about my Grays right from the start. They came from Macosquin Parish, near Coleraine in County Londonderry and certainly had connections with Scotland. I had a great aunt called Sarah Matilda Galloway Gray! There were also lots of Boyds living in the parish and the neighbouring parish of Aghadowey but I had not been able to connect any of the Boyd ladies to my Grays - who were all called either James or William! And then a few months ago, a good friend in Texas discovered the link in the Old Age Pensions Applications held by her FHC. Briefly, this is how it happened that the two names became linked and Boyd became a family name within the Grays. James Gray, my great great grandfather, married Eliza Jane Brown in 1853 and had a son called William. Robert Brewster, my great great grandfather, married Mary Boyd in 1836 and had a daughter, Annie Brewster. Annie Brewster married William Gray in 1882 and called a daughter Mary Alice Boyd Gray and she was the lady who asked my mother to put Boyd in my name. Problem solved after almost five years! So, as you can see, although so many of the names are the same, my ancestors are not your James Gray and Mary Boyd. Very spooky but just one of the many genealogical coincidences I have come across over the years. However, it may be of interest to you to know that there were lots of Grays and Boyds intermarrying in this part of Ulster, and all with close connections to Scotland. Regards, Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <JustJanet223@aol.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Gray Family > Hello Linda, > > Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that > you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long shot to see if there is > any connection with mine. > > The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in > IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 census. Most > of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born in > RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the > daughters' husbands). > > I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to Canada, > but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. > > Could there be any connection with yours? > > Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. > > Janet > New England USA > > > > ______________________________

    01/03/2006 08:52:00
    1. Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V06 #2
    2. Sarah
    3. While in Belfast NI this last May , we toured the huge City Hall in Belfast grounds. THere is a big bronze statue of a man named "HASLETT" in the grounds around the building. Dont know what he did....... Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scotch-Irish-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V06 #2 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 1/2/06

    01/03/2006 07:22:01
    1. RE: [Sc-Ir] Coleraine history
    2. Linda Merle
    3. Hi Connie, there is a lot of information. The basics are listed in Ryan's book "Irish Records". This book lists all-Ireland sources and then resources by county, chronologically arranged. You can also go to www.familysearch.org and view the catalog. It doesn't have 'everything' but it has a LOT of stuff. You can also find stuff on line. Use google. The definitive work on Irish genealogy is Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". Only ESP would tell if those books and papers contain the name of your ancestor unless one actually checked the indexes. You can hire a researcher to check what's in PRONI for you. I've done this kind of research -- once you narrow down townlands, then additional records, some published, some not, become of interest. Sorry that I cannot type into the computer all the pages from Ryan "Irish Records". If you do a couple googles you'll find webpages that list what he lists -- I think the fianna sites -- a lot faster than I can break copyright laws to type in all the stuff in Ryan's chapter, so give that a try too. But find those books in a library. You will not succeed unless you spend a fair amount of time learning how to do Irish genealogy. It -- ie the records that exist -- are very different from either 19th century America or colonial America. Best of luck! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts@carolina.rr.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:52:00 -0500 >I am interested in knowing more about the area of Coleraine in County >Londonderry. Family history (from a 1914 book) has it that my >Brewster/Bruster ancestor - James (born about 1727) was born in Coleraine >and went with his family to America as a teen -- probably settling in what >became Augusta County VA. I believe his father may have been Henry >Brewster/Bruster. The Brewsters were for many generations entwined with the >Dunns and the Alexanders (my ggg-grandfather William Alexander married James >Brewster's daughter Agnes). The story goes that James Brewster and James >Dunn were born within a half mile of each other in Ireland (Coleraine), >lived within a half mile of each other in Virginia (Augusta County), moved >to Jessamine County KY within a half mile of each other, and were buried on >their farms within a half mile of each other. > >I would very much appreciate recommendations for background reading on the >Coleraine area during the 1600s and 1700s and for any hints about whether >any records might exist for these Brewsters and Dunns. > >Thanks, >Connie > >Connie Shotts >Charlotte, NC > >-----Original Message----- >From: Boyd Gray [mailto:boydgray26@utvinternet.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:48 AM >To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Gray Family > >Hi Janet, > >Five years ago, I would have been dancing up and down and throwing my hat in >the air when I read your message to Linda about the Grays and the Boyds. My >interest in genealogy began as a quest to find the origin of my unusual >Christian name and I would have thought that you had given me the answer. I >knew quite a lot about my Grays right from the start. They came from >Macosquin Parish, near Coleraine in County Londonderry and certainly had >connections with Scotland. I had a great aunt called Sarah Matilda Galloway >Gray! There were also lots of Boyds living in the parish and the >neighbouring parish of Aghadowey but I had not been able to connect any of >the Boyd ladies to my Grays - who were all called either James or William! > >And then a few months ago, a good friend in Texas discovered the link in the >Old Age Pensions Applications held by her FHC. Briefly, this is how it >happened that the two names became linked and Boyd became a family name >within the Grays. James Gray, my great great grandfather, married Eliza >Jane Brown in 1853 and had a son called William. Robert Brewster, my great >great grandfather, married Mary Boyd in 1836 and had a daughter, Annie >Brewster. Annie Brewster married William Gray in 1882 and called a daughter >Mary Alice Boyd Gray and she was the lady who asked my mother to put Boyd in >my name. Problem solved after almost five years! > >So, as you can see, although so many of the names are the same, my ancestors >are not your James Gray and Mary Boyd. Very spooky but just one of the many >genealogical coincidences I have come across over the years. However, it >may be of interest to you to know that there were lots of Grays and Boyds >intermarrying in this part of Ulster, and all with close connections to >Scotland. > >Regards, > >Boyd > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <JustJanet223@aol.com> >To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:31 PM >Subject: Gray Family > > >> Hello Linda, >> >> Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that >> you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long shot to see if there >is >> any connection with mine. >> >> The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in >> IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 >census. Most >> of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born >in >> RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the >> daughters' husbands). >> >> I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to >Canada, >> but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. >> >> Could there be any connection with yours? >> >> Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. >> >> Janet >> New England USA >> >> >> >> ______________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

    01/03/2006 07:11:46
    1. RE: [Sc-Ir] MORRISON
    2. Rob D
    3. Hello Emalu, www.irishgenealogy.ie/frame_1024.cfm will give you a very general search of surnames but, I'm afraid, that in the case of Morrison it gives over 5000 hits. If you look at which gen centre has the records it may narrow down the area for you. Another way is to look up www.surnamenavigator.org and restrict your search to the 3 for Ireland. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK Quint Hart <qhart@plmw.com> Subject: MORRISON Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 what area/areas in Ireland the Morrison familys, Charles, lived in in 1800--1830. I'm also trying to find where there were McNaught/McNaght families in Ireland in 1775 -1820. Emalu

    01/03/2006 07:06:01
    1. Archive CD Books
    2. John Polk
    3. Attached announcement provides website for Archives CD Books which specializes in republication of ancient texts of historical and genealogical origin, in scanned format on CD. Some very good sources available here. I am forwarding this simply for information of list members and have no affiliation with Archive CD Books. JP > [Original Message] > From: Archive CD Books Ireland <newsletter@archivecdbooks.ie> > To: <jfpolk@earthlink.net> > Date: 1/3/2006 8:59:27 AM > Subject: Christmas Sale ends tomorrow > > Issue 7, 03 January 2006 > > Dear Project Members and Friends, > > This is just a brief reminder that our annual Christmas sale ends > tomorrow. This sale offers great value with all titles at 25% off the > normal retail price. This discount is applied once you have selected an > item, and will show up in your shopping cart before you pay. You can also > use discount codes (from magazines) and/or member discounts with this > offer, saving you even more. > > So come to our web site at: http://www.archivecdbooks.ie and order today. > > We also want your feedback on what we are doing. Are there titles you > want published? Do you have a book which should be? What do you think of > the Project? or any other questions and comments you might have. Just > mail us at, enquiries@archivecdbooks.ie. > > > We hope to hear from you soon, > > Archive CD Books Ireland > Unit 1, Trinity Enterprise Centre, > Pearse Street, > Dublin 2, > Ireland > Tel: +353 1 6710338 > Fax: +353 1 6710281 > www.archivecdbooks.ie > enquiries@archivecdbooks.ie > > Irish VAT (Sales Tax): This is charged on all customers > from the European Union at 21%, but customers from north > America, Australia, and anywhere outside the EU shop at our > site tax free. > > If you wish to be removed from this mailing list please hit > reply with the subject line 'remove' and you will be > automatically removed from the mailing list. > --- John Polk --- Havre de Grace MD --- jfpolk@earthlink.net

    01/03/2006 05:38:16
    1. Re: Gray Family
    2. Boyd Gray
    3. Hi Janet, Five years ago, I would have been dancing up and down and throwing my hat in the air when I read your message to Linda about the Grays and the Boyds. My interest in genealogy began as a quest to find the origin of my unusual Christian name and I would have thought that you had given me the answer. I knew quite a lot about my Grays right from the start. They came from Macosquin Parish, near Coleraine in County Londonderry and certainly had connections with Scotland. I had a great aunt called Sarah Matilda Galloway Gray! There were also lots of Boyds living in the parish and the neighbouring parish of Aghadowey but I had not been able to connect any of the Boyd ladies to my Grays - who were all called either James or William! And then a few months ago, a good friend in Texas discovered the link in the Old Age Pensions Applications held by her FHC. Briefly, this is how it happened that the two names became linked and Boyd became a family name within the Grays. James Gray, my great great grandfather, married Eliza Jane Brown in 1853 and had a son called William. Robert Brewster, my great great grandfather, married Mary Boyd in 1836 and had a daughter, Annie Brewster. Annie Brewster married William Gray in 1882 and called a daughter Mary Alice Boyd Gray and she was the lady who asked my mother to put Boyd in my name. Problem solved after almost five years! So, as you can see, although so many of the names are the same, my ancestors are not your James Gray and Mary Boyd. Very spooky but just one of the many genealogical coincidences I have come across over the years. However, it may be of interest to you to know that there were lots of Grays and Boyds intermarrying in this part of Ulster, and all with close connections to Scotland. Regards, Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <JustJanet223@aol.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Gray Family > Hello Linda, > > Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that > you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long shot to see if there is > any connection with mine. > > The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in > IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 census. Most > of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born in > RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the > daughters' husbands). > > I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to Canada, > but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. > > Could there be any connection with yours? > > Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. > > Janet > New England USA > > > > ______________________________

    01/03/2006 04:48:09
    1. RE: [Sc-Ir] MORRISON
    2. Linda Merle
    3. According to Bell "Book of Ulster Surnames" Morrision is found in all of Ireland, every part. It's common in Ulster. It was among the 21st commonest names in Fermanagh in 1962. It is the 30th commonest Scottish surname. In Ireland people with the name can be of Irish, Scots or English origin. In Co Donegal there was a sept whose Irish name was anglicized to Morrison. They were and are in Inishowen (O Muirgheasain) Some of them became BRYSONs as well. At some early date some of these folk migrated to Lewis and Harris in the Scottish islands, becoming bards to the McLeods of Dunvegan. Elsewhere in Scotland and England the name derives from 'son of Maurice' or Morris. There were two septs with this name in Clan Buchanan. No doubt there's a few zillion lowlanders who were sons of various MOrrises and ended up Morrisons too. This illustrates how unuseful a surname can be to locate 'where' anyone came from. Until we've completed DNA mappings of the British Isles, we'll need to scare up some clues besides the surname. I like www.genealogy.com/university.html a LOT for getting ideas on where to look for clues or even a smoking gun (30 foot tombstone saying "Here lies Charlie Morrison of Ballybungle, Country Antrim, Ireland")!! You got lots of clues to follow up on already. These include: religion, occupation, relative wealth, first names of children. Got the surname of his wife? WHo lived near them? Who were witnesses to their wills? Who did their children marry? Any of the collateral lines retain any oral history your's didn't? etc, etc. It's like a murder mystery. Need more than the name of the murdered guy to find the murderer. Need lots of clues. PHase one is gather them. PHase two is analyze them. Maybe phase three is gather more clues or go back and test the hypothesis (ie if I think my MOrrisons came with the O'Widgets who we know are from Ballymudhole, maybe they are in the late 18th century flax growers census which survives for that parish. ....) There were and are a SLEW of them in Westmoreland County, PA. Still got the farm over the hill from my parents. Actually, took over a couple other 'Scotch-Irish' farms like the Blair farm on the other hill. I try to avoid them as they like to shoot dogs. If they shoot mine I shall have to launch a large number of very nasty Irish fairies on their sorry hides <grin>! They'll be wishing they never left ....er....where-ever!! Linda Merle >Quint Hart <qhart@plmw.com> Subject: MORRISON Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 >what area/areas in Ireland the Morrison familys, Charles, lived in in >1800--1830. I'm also trying to find where there were McNaught/McNaght >families in Ireland in 1775 -1820. Emalu > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

    01/02/2006 11:51:38
    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] Hanchett/Hachett?
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Carla, The only thing I can find that is remotely close to the Hanchett surname in Ireland is the surname Hackett, which is Saxon in origin, and found in Ireland as early as the mid 1600's in Westmeath, Tipperary, Tyrone, Dublin and Kilkenny. There is also found a spelling of Hacket. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Carla DeVille" <chrisandcarla@centurytel.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] French Hanchetts >I do not believe the Hanchetts are French. The article friend or foe that >included my Seth Hanchett or Hachney is either Irish or German. The group >was coming from Fort Pitt and had suffered religious persecution. They >were Catholics and were asking to baptise there children. They of course >were moving into an area where the Acadians had moved to, which was >Louisiana. > Carla > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >

    01/02/2006 04:56:56
    1. Misunderstanding?
    2. Hello JR, If you are interested in the arts as I am, you would know about the famous Isadora Duncan. It was a terrible freak accident. What I said was a statement of fact & had nothing to do with the administrator of this list. Linda has always been helpful in every way. I enjoy reading the info that she sends, & I told her so & want her to continue. We need someone with a sense of humor like hers & the knowledge on genealogy to help us over the bumps. If anyone misunderstood what I said, I apologize but I certainly meant no insult. She's a fine person & I am glad that she is the list administrator. If Linda reads this, she can see why I sent it to the list or not to her personally. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Won't happen again. Janet

    01/02/2006 04:47:25
    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] Hanchetts/Hachney?
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. 1880 U.S. Census: Fred Hachney, single, Age: 30 b. Louisiana c1850; residing in New Orleans as a border and employed as a news carrier; both his father and mother were born in Prussia. William and Samuel Hachney served in the Revolutionary War from Virginia. The name Hachney is found in the 1861 and 1891 census of England. An obituary for Claude Vincent Foster, age 89 in 1915, at Gonzales, LA mentions a Daisy Forster Hachney. Lee Ramsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Carla DeVille" <chrisandcarla@centurytel.net> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] French Hanchetts >I do not believe the Hanchetts are French. The article friend or foe that >included my Seth Hanchett or Hachney is either Irish or German. The group >was coming from Fort Pitt and had suffered religious persecution. They >were Catholics and were asking to baptise there children. They of course >were moving into an area where the Acadians had moved to, which was >Louisiana. > Carla > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >

    01/02/2006 04:22:02
    1. French Hanchetts
    2. Chris and Carla DeVille
    3. I do not believe the Hanchetts are French. The article friend or foe that included my Seth Hanchett or Hachney is either Irish or German. The group was coming from Fort Pitt and had suffered religious persecution. They were Catholics and were asking to baptise there children. They of course were moving into an area where the Acadians had moved to, which was Louisiana. Carla --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    01/02/2006 01:42:18
    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] French Hanchetts
    2. Linda Merle
    3. ??? I'd have to say based on the data you provide that they were indeed French. #1. You say Fort Pitt and that they were Catholics. Who do you think founded it? It was the French. The first baptism to ever take place there was the child of an Irish slave of the Indians. After the French and Indian War of course, then the French were not too welcome here. #2. Who do you think the Acadians were? French! If they were trying to reconnect with Acadians, check for the surname in French Canada. The French kept much better records than the English so you have censuses in the 1700s and all kinds of othe records that disappear once the English take over. There's a marriage index of all the French marriages that you can find in LDS. Anyway from the oral history below, I'd definitely be searching for the surname up north. That's not based on 'belief' but an analysis of the clues you provide below. If they had been Huguenots they would not manifest in Fort Pitt. Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Chris and Carla DeVille" <chrisandcarla@centurytel.net> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:42:18 -0600 >I do not believe the Hanchetts are French. The article friend or foe that included my Seth Hanchett or Hachney is either Irish or German. The group was coming from Fort Pitt and had suffered religious persecution. They were Catholics and were asking to baptise there children. They of course were moving into an area where the Acadians had moved to, which was Louisiana. >Carla > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

    01/02/2006 11:56:43
    1. Symington
    2. Rob D
    3. Hello Missy, www.electricscotland.com says Symington is a sept of Clan Douglas. There are 33 hits for Symington on this site but many are for places spelt that way. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK Missy Warren <mawarren@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Symington lineage Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 Anyone have information on the Scottish name Symington? The spelling of the name is so varied which makes it difficult to look up on web. The only thing i know is my 2nd g'grandmother was Scottish Irish and was born in Ireland in 1830. She came to America probably Pennsylvania after 1830. Missy Warren

    01/02/2006 08:09:53
    1. Duncan et al
    2. Wow Linda, You certainly had well-known relatives. Wasn't Isadora Duncan, the dancer who went for a ride in a motor car wearing a long flowing scarf, so long in fact that it wrapped around one of the wheels of the car strangling her to death? I didn't think I would have so much trouble finding the Grays. I thought all my relatives were from Scotland, & so they were, but not originally, apparently. Thought I'd ask just in case there was a connection. A new storm is coming our way (6 to 10 In. expected tomorrow). Maybe your move from Ma. was a wise move. Good luck with everything & keep your interesting E-Mails coming. I'm sure everyone on list find them as helpful as I. Janet

    01/02/2006 08:08:31
    1. MORRISON
    2. Quint Hart
    3. Does anyone know what area/areas in Ireland the Morrison familys, Charles, lived in in 1800--1830. I'm also trying to find where there were McNaught/McNaght families in Ireland in 1775 -1820. Thanks Emalu

    01/02/2006 05:34:40
    1. Gray Family
    2. Hello Linda, Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long shot to see if there is any connection with mine. The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 census. Most of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born in RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the daughters' husbands). I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to Canada, but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. Could there be any connection with yours? Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. Janet New England USA

    01/02/2006 04:31:41
    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] Gray Family
    2. Linda Merle
    3. Hi Janet, not a clue. GRAY is common in Ireland since the Statues of Kilkenny in hmm... 1400s? earlier? Whatever, decreed that Irish living in the Pale had to take an English-style surname. Among those allowed were colors. Mine aren't mine, they are my ex's. The immigrant is a Thomas GRAY who emigrated around 1830 from Kings County, where the GRAYs were middle class and inveterate supporters and defenders of the Catholic faith. He fought with Lincoln in the Black Hawk War in Illinois and eventually settled in Oakland, CA, where he started the first ferry to cross the bay. he became a California state senator. His daughter Mary Dora entered a scandalous marriage with the Episcopalian wag and white collar criminal Joseph Duncan. They had four children including Isadora Duncan. After ruining her life Joseph moved on to found a 3rd family in Los Angeles but they all perished in a ship wreck off Wales. My ex's GRAYs were most definitely not Scotch Irish. I can see them wiggling at the suggestion that they'd ever marry a BOYD!! Nope, not even Ulster people. Leinster men they were. However Raymond Duncan (my ex's granddad and brother of Isadora) did invent a sandal and the children of his first wife may still have a shop on the Cape where they sell them. Used to be there in the 1970s. They refuse to believe Raymond was the father of my ex's mother so 80 years later they are still feuding in the Duncan family. Colorful lot but not too Scotch Irish. Possibly money could have got them to Scotland but I suspect they were not too fond of any but the Jacobitie ones. I sure do hope this year is better than last. Don't recall a worse year than last! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: JustJanet223@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:31:41 EST >Hello Linda, > >Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that >you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long s hot to see if there is >any connection with mine. > >The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in >IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 census. Most >of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born in >RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the >daughters' husbands). > >I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to Canada, >but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. > >Could there be any connection with yours? > >Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. > >Janet >New England USA > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

    01/02/2006 04:01:31