Hi Karen and all Good point ! For over 5 years I ran the Orr One Name Study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies. I had to give it up because the Orrs are too prolific - about 100,000 currently alive in the USA alone, and I was not able to confine my research to pre 1900.! I have accumulated overr 100,000 Orr related items, and hold them in Works searchabe databases. These are mostly pre 1900 and cover Orr individuals world wide - over 30,000 in the USA, 18,000 in Scotland, 10,000 in England & Wales, 6000 in Ulster/Ireland, 3000 in Australia/NZ., 4500 in Canada. The data is variable, sometimes only a name and place, other times full dob, dod, place, marriage, children, source, contact for earlier enquiry. etc etc Also the 1881 Census for England and Scotland, Orrs KIA in WWI and II, the `Ulster Pedigree ( 2900 Orrs linked)`, I also have an interest in the history of my ancestors (the Scotch Irish) hence the many pages about the Covenanters, the migration to Ulster ( the SI) and background info on why they migrated/emigerated around the world.. This is on www.thereformation.info. and in two books,so far. I hope this helps, and doesnt flood me out < VBG :)) > Brian brian@orrnamestudy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Hart Anthony To: Brian Orr Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] New web site Congratulations! Would you please remind us all what the basic information is that you hold, when you say we could reach you by email and you could look up info on your database? generally -- what area(s) of Scotland? Ireland? any particular counties? etc. Thanks so much for your offer, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Orr" <brian@orrnamestudy.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] New web site > Greetings all > > Just to let you know that I have set up a new web site at > www.thereformation.info which, as the title suggests is essentially about > the conflict between the medieval Church of Rome and the establishment of > Protestantism in Great Britain ( Presbytery in Scotland,and the Church of > England) It also includes pages on the Covenanters, the migration to > Ulster ( the Ulster Scots aka the Scotch Irish) and emigration to the > former Colonies.There are some miscellaneous items on my travels in > Scotland, the children of scotland, 18th century medicine, the National > War Memorial. > > These were previously on my genealogy site at www.orrnamestudy.com. . > > I have finally (after 40 years) finally written the book (about the Orr > `family`) we all aspire to and sent it to publishers for consideration. In > consequence I have temporarily taken down the Orr site. BUT, I can still > be reached by e mail and will continue to help where I can by > interrogating my database of over 100,000 Orr entries. > > Enjoy > > Brian Orr > brian@orrnamestudy.com > > >

Greetings all Just to let you know that I have set up a new web site at www.thereformation.info which, as the title suggests is essentially about the conflict between the medieval Church of Rome and the establishment of Protestantism in Great Britain ( Presbytery in Scotland,and the Church of England) It also includes pages on the Covenanters, the migration to Ulster ( the Ulster Scots aka the Scotch Irish) and emigration to the former Colonies.There are some miscellaneous items on my travels in Scotland, the children of scotland, 18th century medicine, the National War Memorial. These were previously on my genealogy site at www.orrnamestudy.com. . I have finally (after 40 years) finally written the book (about the Orr `family`) we all aspire to and sent it to publishers for consideration. In consequence I have temporarily taken down the Orr site. BUT, I can still be reached by e mail and will continue to help where I can by interrogating my database of over 100,000 Orr entries. Enjoy Brian Orr brian@orrnamestudy.com

Hello, my name is Thomas Martin. I am a direct descendent of George Martin and his wife Ann Cloud Martin. George and Ann were married October 9, 1761 in Old Swedes Church in Wilmington, DE. They are my grgrgrgrgrandparents. I have ancestry info on Ann Cloud but not George Martin. He was born about 1740 in either England/Ireland and supposedly came to the Colonies from Ireland. I realize from experience this is a tough find but I am trying to find any link to George Martin ancestry. Thanks for listening and any help would certainly be appreciated. Thomas Martin tmartin1@ma.rr.com

Linda's right about the lists being individual. I'm on one just gave us a list of rules. Seemed like # 1 was don't say thank you on the list, do it privately. So Linda, I just want to say thank you for running such a friendly list. Loudene Kirk Tollar Trinity, Texas

Hi Missy, I am sure others have the same question! Fer starters, this isn't a website. There's no graphics. You don't navigate to it with your browser. It's email. You are 'on' a mailing list. The directions on how to use it were sent to you when you subscribed, but hey, no one reads those. Me neither It's best to do so as not only do they tell you how to post a message but also the rules. Lists are very individual. What goes on one will get you tossed off on another. I'll explain a few of our rules in a minute. Anyway, you have managed to post a question to the list. Almost anything sent to the list goes on it. It is then stored forever in the archives. The archives are at our host: www.rootsweb.com . ON this website you can get extensive information on lists and lots of other things. You should check the archives since everyone's post since Noah is there and you might find family connections. THere is a lot of data in those lists such as all the surviving deeds of the McDonalds of Antrim (pilfered from a publication). Can save you time and money . Go to www.rootsweb.com, scroll down to mailing lists, click on 'Interactive Search', type in "Scotch-Irish" and search. If you need help, check the top of your screen, on the right. Click on HELP....get help! They got paid elves, laid off by Santa Claus, ready to help you. (Sorry, a joke..) The posts that do not go to the list are: 1. Emails by people who aren't subscribed. 2. Emails of people subscribed but in the penalty box. Their posts go to the admin (me) and if they are not offensive, off topic, or whatever their original offense was, on it goes to the list. You already know this, but to remind you, to post to the list send an email to scotch-Irish-l@rootsweb.com . The post should be on topic. That means it should be relevant to Ulster Protestants and their diaspora. Scotland is a different country -- we don't 'do' Scottish genealogy. It's dang hard enough to 'do' Irish and the others we get involved iwth. There are at least 20 or more lists at www.rootsweb.com for Scottish genealogy -- so join one of them. People confused about what "Scotch-Irish" means should view our website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle . If you ask a question like what are we, expect to get lots of nasty emails. The same as if you joined an English list and asked what is English or Scottish, or German, etc. Smarter than joining lists and asking questions is reading books,reading articles, and learning. Only the rich can afford to hire someone worth hiring to tutor them in how to do genealogy. People think they can 'get by' by posting questions to these lists. However the people who really know anything are not on these lists. They left the 12,000 th time the same question was asked! Actually they were never on the list. THey are off preparing lectures for genealogy conferences, writing books, and doing genealogy for their clients, so....you must develop the ability to distinquish the know it all know knows nothing from the person with some expertise whose info/advice is worth considering. Otherwise, see me -- I got a great bridge for sale!! You'll love it!!! However the great part about genealogy is unlike brain surgery, you can learn as you go with no bad consquences, excepting for periodical prunings of erroneous branches of your 'tree' or shrub (in my case). So don't worry. Our 'welcome' message (or maybe Rootsweb should rename them 'beware' messages?) requests that you not post on some really dumb topics that cause people who have been doing th is for a while to flee. These topics don't assist our genealogy. I'll forward you a copy privately since if it goes on the list people will begin to chatter about those very topics. Then other members will send them very nasty emails. It'll feel like a bad day in kindergarten or a full moon night in the luny bin. As for why your prior post didn't get to the list, I do't know. You probably didn't send it to the list at all but to some non existent website. Messages sent to the admin address: scotch-irish-l-request@rootsweb.com come to the admin (Me). I send back a message explaining how to post to the list and delete the message since I have only a finite amount of storage in my email box. I delete it from my brain. Ditto..... Don't recall seeing an email from you so either it never even got to the admin (me) or it did and you ignored the email I sent back. People do that sometimes. Then they never do figure out how to post to the list. Scotch Irish genealogy is difficult. Since we must deal with difficult strategies and methodologies, this isn't a beginners list. Rootsweb has a number of list designed for beginners (See www.rootsweb.com) where you can ask any question and get a patient answer. Unfortunately this isn't one of those places. Most courses in Irish genealogy will tell you you can't trace average families before about 1820 in Ireland. You can (sometimes) but it ain't easy. You can certainly begin it as a beginner but we won't mislead you into thinking it's easy. So join a beginners list for support. Best of luck, too! Linda Merle (SI Admin) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Missy Warren <mawarren@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:41:03 -0800 (PST) >How does one get their question on the website? I sent one in a couple of weeks ago, but haven't seen it posted. Is it that only 3 or so are posted at a time? I'm new at this, so I am very ignorant about how all this works. > > >Missy Warren > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

In a message dated 1/8/2006 4:41:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mawarren@sbcglobal.net writes: How does one get their question on the website? I sent one in a couple of weeks ago, but haven't seen it posted. Is it that only 3 or so are posted at a time? I'm new at this, so I am very ignorant about how all this works. This question was posted. You posted it at 4:41 and I received it at 4:42.

How does one get their question on the website? I sent one in a couple of weeks ago, but haven't seen it posted. Is it that only 3 or so are posted at a time? I'm new at this, so I am very ignorant about how all this works. Missy Warren

Do you have a paper from PRONI, titled ""The Bensons of Donegal: Notes and a Pedigree compiled therefrom. J.B. 1928." (and this in handwriting below the title) "Also copies of papers lent by Capt J Hamilton of Brown Hall 1928." (and also, handwritten) Also The Skiptons of Balyshaskey, now Beech Hill-from MS lent by HS Kennedy Skipton 1929" It has a "short abstract of the pedigree of Sir James Galbraith, Bart. as furnished by him to Ulster King at Arms, on being created a baronet." mentions that "1630 James Galbraith and LIeut Col. Robert Galbraith his brother on the settlement of the Ulster Plantation, settled at Dowish, near St. Johnstone, in the Co. of Donegal, which from their residence there took the name of Gentle Dowish, which it retains to this day. It is presumed that these men, who were the younger sons of Robert Galbraith, one of the Lords of Session in Scotland, came over to Ireland with the ancestor of Lord Abercorn, as James the eldest brother of the two was returned to Parliament for Strabane with one of Lord Abercorn's family in 1630 and when St. Johnstone was created a borough in 1660 or 1661 the said James Galbraith and Wm. Hamilton, borhter of the first Lord Strabane, were returned to Parliament the first members for it. For these facts see the Journals of the House of Commons. The Earl of Belmore, in his pedigree, has stated this James to have been a Lieut. Col. but it is a clear and distinct mistake. This James had no male issue, but he had six ! daughters, and declared that he would give a certain legacy to the son of any daughter called Galbraith for his Christian name. This James afterwards removed to Barne in the Co. of Fermanagh, where he died, and the identity of the person is proved both by his own will, and by the will of his brother Lieut. Col. Robert's widown, both on record, which ascertains the persons, their brotherhood, and ranks, and situations." etc. Charlie > > From: "Helen W Hamilton" <hwhamilton2@msn.com> > Date: 2006/01/08 Sun PM 01:11:54 GMT+13:00 > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Galbraith, Donegal 1660s > > Would anyone have a a source that lists the M.P.s for Co Donegal in 1661. I > would like to determine whether it was a Lt. Col. James Galbraith or his > nephew, Capt. James Galbraith Jr. who was the M.P. in 1661 for Johnstown, > Co. Donegal. > I know that the Lt Col was alive in 1637 and that the Capt. was alive after > 1642. > I am trying to sort out some discrepancies in data I have for marriages > between Galbraiths, Sinclairs and Hamiltons mainly in Co. Tyrone for that > time period, and this information could help. > Thanks, > Helen > > >

Also Helen, Have you checked "Visitations of Ireland" -- five or six volumes, published together and on CD?? This website might also help: http://www.thepeerage.com/p17666.htm#i176660 Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Helen, you might check on a Donegal list where you might hope to find some one who knows where this is published. There are various lists published (I have one for later, right after the Union in a book). They are in the state papers of ireland. You often find them published in articles in periodicals. The best places to find them are the major indexes: Hayes and Smith's Inventories. (See www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa for what these are). NIDS is another place to look for them but we usually can't get to NIDS (LDS main library has a copy and the Los Angeles branch library -- check major universities in your area). Check Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". She has a huge chapter on the state papers, mentioning a number of important indexes including the Deputy Keepers reports. SOme of these here in LDS on microfilm: Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland of the reign of James I : preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office and elsewhere Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland preserved in the Public Record Office [Charles II] Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland, of the reign of Charles I ... preserved in the Public Record Office Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland, of the reigns of Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary, and Elizabeth : preserved in the state paper department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office Great Britain. Public Record Office Index to the public records and state papers of Ireland Microfilm copy of typescript. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cumulative index to: 55th, 56th and 57th reports of the deputy keeper of the public records and keeper of the state papers of Ireland; and, Appendix to the 26th and 30th reports of the deputy keeper of the public records and keeper of the state papers in Ireland. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Index lacks Cheshier-Fisher and M'Eniry-Proudfoot. ------ Also check history books. I own "Cromwellian Ireland: English Government and Reform in Ireland, 1649-1660" by T C Barnard (Clarendon Press, Oxford, 2000 for paperback edition). It has an immense bibligraphy and extensive footnotes. It is full of interesting things. For example the Irish (English) gov rounded up vagrants and transported them to the West Indies. The foot note lists va rious sources which might contain more info as well as an article in the Irish Historical Studies. These folk, in the West Indies from the mid 1600s, sometimes moved to the mainland. Their descendents find them puzzling: They got Irish surnames and may appear "Scotch Irish"-- ie Protestant, but they may lack an Irish "look and feel". Many Catholic Irish merchant families were exiled at this time too. They were far better at merchanthood than the men that the Interregnum hoped to replace them with (Protestants); hence commerce in Ireland greatly declined due to their loss. Protestants complained continuously about how the remaining ones out-sold them. These families continued to prosper sometimes in the West Indies. Some traded with the major cities on the east coast. One hundred years later, in 1750, they didn't have the look and feel of Irish Catholics but were assimilating into the colonial British ethos. We can sometimes think our families came from Ulster Protestant stock when we actually stem from Galway, Waterford, Dublin, or Cork merchant families. Barnard tells us that the Protestant monopoly on the Irish house of commons was the most spectacular sign of the advance of Protestant power in the Interregnum (1649-1661). (P 71). The footnote isn't helpful, but elsewhere he does reference the state papers of Ireland. You would not want to read through these (you might go postal....), so look for a published list in Hayes or Smith's Inventories. He gives a lot of details of schemes to attract Protestant settlers from England to replace the displaced Catholic middle class. Scottish settlers were NOT desirable because of fear that Scots would be Royalists. During this period Scots in Ireland "laid low" and hoped Cromwell didn't recall they existed. He largely did forget they existed and so he didn't transport them to Tipperary as he intended. Anyway he tells us that they tried to get Protestants to Waterford but few came. He cites contemporary sources showing that Catholics continued to live there. There is a petition of Protestants from 1655...one wonders if they signed it and so we have their names?? IT's at the Christian Brothers' School in Dublin in the Jennings transcripts. Galway was also attempted to be settled but many problems arose since the terms of its surrender to Cromwell made it difficult to disenfranchise the Catholics. After they were expelled it wsa impossible to replace them with Protestants so Galway fell into very bad times due to a lack of trade and commerce. (P 55) Also Cromwell's gov tried to attract Dutch merchants from Rotterdam. They also tried to get settlers from the New England colonies. A few did go. They eventually repopulated it by paying a couple ENglish towns' debts in land in Galway. These were Gloucester and Liverpool. Some people from these towns did come to Ireland but they lacked the capital to restart the economy. Plus they had a bad reputation for being Baptist sympathisers. (p. 57) Cromwell also offered denization to Hugeunots and Dutch families in 1656. A few came, artisans. One major Dutch merchant who came was Isaac van Hoegarden, Kilrush, County Clare. His son was an agent for Laurence de Geer, the Krupp of the seventeenth century. Interesting stuff....most of it is rather boring unless you have an intense interest in the Interegnum period . Your date is critical as that's the year (1661) when the Interegnum ended and the Restoration began. So either your guys fell out of political favor and power that year or they returned to it. Knowing which would help you trace the family history. Linda Merle >> From: "Helen W Hamilton" <hwhamilton2@msn.com> >> Date: 2006/01/08 Sun PM 01:11:54 GMT+13:00 >> To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Sc-Ir] Galbraith, Donegal 1660s >> >> Would anyone have a a source that lists the M.P.s for Co Donegal in 1661. I >> would like to determine whether it was a Lt. Col. James Galbraith or his >> nephew, Capt. James Galbraith Jr. who was the M.P. in 1661 for Johnstown, >> Co. Donegal. >> I know that the Lt Col was alive in 1637 and that the Capt. was alive after >> 1642. >> I am trying to sort out some discrepancies in data I have for marriages >> between Galbraiths, Sinclairs and Hamiltons mainly in Co. Tyrone for that >> time period, and this information could help. >> Thanks, >> ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Would anyone have a a source that lists the M.P.s for Co Donegal in 1661. I would like to determine whether it was a Lt. Col. James Galbraith or his nephew, Capt. James Galbraith Jr. who was the M.P. in 1661 for Johnstown, Co. Donegal. I know that the Lt Col was alive in 1637 and that the Capt. was alive after 1642. I am trying to sort out some discrepancies in data I have for marriages between Galbraiths, Sinclairs and Hamiltons mainly in Co. Tyrone for that time period, and this information could help. Thanks, Helen

It has been since 1970 that we have searched in vain to locate our Grandfather. We need to know, if there were Boyd (s) that were born in Norway? We know our roots are Scottish, but what we are turning up, is the possibility that his father and mother were born in Norway. If anyone can give me information on this, we will be very greatful. Thank you. Martha

All of these surnames are also in early Long Cane Abbeville Co SC.. Jane McCombs Gillespie gillespie4491@BellSouth.net Researching McComb/McCombs Gillespie/Glaspy JJrMcComb@aol.com wrote: > How does McComb fit into this puzzle? Members of my fam were also located in > Mercer aswell, as early as 1740's or so. > > Thompson is also a sept of the Clan McThomas or (McComb). McThomas familes > were involved in the great SI migration, and took part in the early Ulster > Plantations. > *Jeff McComb > *MacThomas-Admin@Rootsweb.com > *Http://hometown.aol.com/jjrmccomb/index.html --

Hi List, After reading the book Linda Merle sent from the Ireladn Lib. I have a new clue on our GREY Lline> of ASA GREY???in early 1700s he seems to be a well known botanist......... The line we are looking for has a Katherine Hunter Grey, parents unknown who married William Thompson and a son was named William ASA.......a very unusal name I think. Anyone know this line.?? Sarah

How does McComb fit into this puzzle? Members of my fam were also located in Mercer aswell, as early as 1740's or so. Thompson is also a sept of the Clan McThomas or (McComb). McThomas familes were involved in the great SI migration, and took part in the early Ulster Plantations. ThA cLaN aYe !! ============================== *Jeff McComb *MacThomas-Admin@Rootsweb.com *Http://hometown.aol.com/jjrmccomb/index.html © 2006.All rights reserved. MacThomas-L-Rootsweb.com

Linda Merle, are you still around? Ed is trying to get in touch with you. Thanks, Doug

FYI--From Cyndis List, Jan 4, 2006. Best of luck with all your family searches. Marybeth C. ================================ In a message dated 1/5/06 2:08:04 PM, CyndisList@rootsweb.com writes: << =~=~=~= URL: http://www.libraryireland.com/articles/ScotchIrishNewEnglandCongress1890/index .php TITLE: Scotch-Irish in New England DESCRIPTION: An informative and entertaining account of the early Scotch-Irish settlers in New England, and more particularly Worcester, Londonderry and Kennebec Country. Many surnames of these settlers are listed, and there is more in-depth information on some of the families such as the GRAYS and YOUNGS. Also included are some excellent anecdotes, including one of a Rev. Matthew Clark of Londonderry, New England, whose death-wish in 1735 was to be carried to his grave by fellow soldiers from the 1689 Siege of Derry in Ireland!. =~=~=~= >>

Hi folks, attached is an update from books Ulster, an antiquary bookshop in County Down that has many free articles on its website, PDF versions of hard to get books, as well as their stock, which often includes the originals of deeds and other documents. They have posted a very long article on the Scotch Irish of New England: http://www.libraryireland.com/articles/ScotchIrishNewEnglandCongress1890/index.php In the original post all the links worked but you'll have to go to the website and navigate to these articles. Enjoy! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Books Ulster" <booksulster@btopenworld.com> Reply-To: booksulster@btopenworld.com Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:01:07 -0000 www.libraryireland.com Included in the latest additions to the library are a number of 1846 and 1847 Famine reports from The Transactions of the Central Relief Committee of the Society of Friends, and some extracts from Eleanor Hull's `History of Ireland and Her People'. There is also an article on the MAGUIRES of Fermanagh, written by John O'Donovan, which gives a brief history and pedigree of the family. There is an essay on the SCOTCH-IRISH in New England which is very informative as regards the names of early settler families there, as well as providing some good social and local history of the area. The Brady and O'Grady pedigrees from John O'Hart's "Irish Pedigrees; or the Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation" have also been added, and we will be including more family pedigrees from the book over the course of the next year. O'Grady, Pedigree of Irish Pedigrees: O'Grady (No.1) Brady, Pedigree of Irish Pedigrees: Brady Scotch-Irish in New England Scotch-Irish in New England Burncourt, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Burncourt, Tubrid, etc, County Tipperary (1847) Kinsale, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Kinsale, County Cork (1847) Ballyvourney, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Ballyvourney, near Macroom, County Cork (1847) Erris, Famine in Barony of Irish Famine Report from the Barony of Erris, County Mayo (1847) Carrickart, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Carrickart, Rutland Island, and Killybegs, County Donegal (1847) Arranmore, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Arranmore Island, County Donegal (1847) Dungloe, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Dungloe, County Donegal (1847) Belmullet, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Belmullet, County Mayo (1847) Ballina, Famine in Irish Famine Report on Journey from Dublin to Ballina, County Mayo (1847) Claddagh, Famine in Irish Famine Report from the Claddagh, County Galway (1847) Bofin, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Bofin and Cleggan, County Galway (1847) Clifden, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Clifden, County Galway (1847) Connemara, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Connemara, County Galway (1847) Sligo, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Sligo (1846) Killybegs, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Killybegs, County Donegal (1846) Glenties, Famine in Irish Famine Report from Glenties, County Donegal (1846) MacSwiney, Terence Moral Force (by Terence MacSwiney) Pearse, Patrick (Poem by) Renunciation (By P. H. Pearse) Treaty, Anglo-Irish Speech of Arthur Griffith in Dail Eireann on December 19, 1921, in moving the Approval of the Treaty Boundary Question The Boundary Question (Partition) Republic, Oaths to The Three Oaths (to the Irish Republic, etc.) Envoys Plenipotentiary Envoys Plenipotentiary from the Republic of Ireland Maguires The Maguires of Fermanagh Republic, Proclamation of the Irish Proclamation of the Irish Republic, April 24th, 1916 Email: info@libraryireland.com ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

According to http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/features4.asp A memorial to Sir James Haslett MP, Mayor of Belfast 1887-88, unveiled by the Marquess of Londonderry KG, on the 19th April 1909. Edward Andrews -----Original Message----- From: Sarah [mailto:agape2u@msinter.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:22 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V06 #2 While in Belfast NI this last May , we toured the huge City Hall in Belfast grounds. THere is a big bronze statue of a man named "HASLETT" in the grounds around the building. Dont know what he did....... Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scotch-Irish-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <Scotch-Irish-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: Scotch-Irish-D Digest V06 #2 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 1/2/06

There are three books by Thomas H. Mullin about Coleraine in different eras in its history: Coleraine in By-gone Centuries. Belfast: Century Services Ltd, 1976. Coleraine in Georgian Times. Belfast: Century Services Ltd, 1977. Coleraine in Modern Times. Belfast: Century Services Ltd, 1976. These are not genealogical works, but do mention a lot of individuals. It should certainly serve the purpose of "background reading." Not sure how generally available they are - I found them in Library of Congress. John Polk > [Original Message] > From: Connie Shotts <cshotts@carolina.rr.com> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/3/2006 3:52:00 PM > Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Coleraine history > > I am interested in knowing more about the area of Coleraine in County > Londonderry. Family history (from a 1914 book) has it that my > Brewster/Bruster ancestor - James (born about 1727) was born in Coleraine > and went with his family to America as a teen -- probably settling in what > became Augusta County VA. I believe his father may have been Henry > Brewster/Bruster. The Brewsters were for many generations entwined with the > Dunns and the Alexanders (my ggg-grandfather William Alexander married James > Brewster's daughter Agnes). The story goes that James Brewster and James > Dunn were born within a half mile of each other in Ireland (Coleraine), > lived within a half mile of each other in Virginia (Augusta County), moved > to Jessamine County KY within a half mile of each other, and were buried on > their farms within a half mile of each other. > > I would very much appreciate recommendations for background reading on the > Coleraine area during the 1600s and 1700s and for any hints about whether > any records might exist for these Brewsters and Dunns. > > Thanks, > Connie > > Connie Shotts > Charlotte, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Boyd Gray [mailto:boydgray26@utvinternet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:48 AM > To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Sc-Ir] Re: Gray Family > > Hi Janet, > > Five years ago, I would have been dancing up and down and throwing my hat in > the air when I read your message to Linda about the Grays and the Boyds. My > interest in genealogy began as a quest to find the origin of my unusual > Christian name and I would have thought that you had given me the answer. I > knew quite a lot about my Grays right from the start. They came from > Macosquin Parish, near Coleraine in County Londonderry and certainly had > connections with Scotland. I had a great aunt called Sarah Matilda Galloway > Gray! There were also lots of Boyds living in the parish and the > neighbouring parish of Aghadowey but I had not been able to connect any of > the Boyd ladies to my Grays - who were all called either James or William! > > And then a few months ago, a good friend in Texas discovered the link in the > Old Age Pensions Applications held by her FHC. Briefly, this is how it > happened that the two names became linked and Boyd became a family name > within the Grays. James Gray, my great great grandfather, married Eliza > Jane Brown in 1853 and had a son called William. Robert Brewster, my great > great grandfather, married Mary Boyd in 1836 and had a daughter, Annie > Brewster. Annie Brewster married William Gray in 1882 and called a daughter > Mary Alice Boyd Gray and she was the lady who asked my mother to put Boyd in > my name. Problem solved after almost five years! > > So, as you can see, although so many of the names are the same, my ancestors > are not your James Gray and Mary Boyd. Very spooky but just one of the many > genealogical coincidences I have come across over the years. However, it > may be of interest to you to know that there were lots of Grays and Boyds > intermarrying in this part of Ulster, and all with close connections to > Scotland. > > Regards, > > Boyd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JustJanet223@aol.com> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:31 PM > Subject: Gray Family > > > > Hello Linda, > > > > Hope you are enjoying your new life in Pa. Saw on the latest E-mail that > > you have GRAYS in your family, so I am taking a long shot to see if there > is > > any connection with mine. > > > > The 1841 census showed that JAMES GRAY & wife, MARY BOYD were born in > > IRELAND (don't know just where) They showed up in Glasgow in 1841 > census. Most > > of children were born in Ireland except two youngest ones, MATILDA born > in > > RFW & JAMES born in GLASGOW. JAMES was a shoemaker (as were some of the > > daughters' husbands). > > > > I understand from family that some of the Grays & Boyds migrated to > Canada, > > but so far have not been able to put my finger on which ones. > > > > Could there be any connection with yours? > > > > Wishing you a happy, healthy & prosperous 2006. > > > > Janet > > New England USA > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --- John Polk --- Havre de Grace MD --- jfpolk@earthlink.net