My William Maxwell (Scot-Irish) married Abigail Milhous (Irish Quaker). Her parents sailed directly from Dublin to South Carolina and settled in the Camden area about 1751. The unknown parents of William Maxwell (died 1794 Camden area) and his brother, John, came to South Carolina about 1751. We don't know if they came directly to South Carolina or settled in PA first. Do you have any connections? Lyndall Maxwell lyndall_maxwell@msn.com<mailto:lyndall_maxwell@msn.com>

Hi Mary, you say you haven't found them in Ireland yet. What's your clue that they were in Antrim based on? (Family lure, ouija board, tombstone....) Then what records have you searched? The general idea (as you know <grin>) is search them records you haven't searched yet. If you tell us what you've done, maybe we can suggest some other ones. Have you used the Ireland Guide at LDS to suggest things to look in, for example?? I have Wilsons, also unfound in Ireland, but probably Antrim like her husband. However I've not got the heart to try to find a specific Wilson in Antrim. That said, when you start to read the local history, it's amazing how you do find even common surnames only in specific locales.... IGI? Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Widener" <widener@brightok.net> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:37:59 -0600 >Hi, >I am researching the names Mathew SHANKS, born possibly in Carnmoney, Antrium Co., Ulster about 1740 or so, he married ? Wilson and they had a son James about 1761. His wife died before 1767 when Mathew and son James came to Charleston, S. Carolina, USA where they were given land. His son's uncle Robert Wilson lived in that area of S. Carolina and in Robert's will, James was listed as his nearest relative. They lived in Abbeville County. But have nothing on them prior to arriving in the USA, I have the boat they came over on. I find several Mathew Shanks in Lanark area in Scotland in that time frame and later. >Any help greatly appreciated. >Mary Widener > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Lyndall, have you tried locating families with the same surnames in PA and other states? (I know we always 'think PA', but a lot of people lived in Maryland in particular -- and the boundaries were not settled till the 1770s. There were sizable Quaker populations in NJ and NY as well). During the Revolution PA required that men of military age (teenagers till in their 50s I believe) register, so the PA militia lists are almost censuses. VA and other colonies did too, but most of the PA lists survive, unlike VA. They are largely published. The published PA archives are largely free on the Internet. See our webpages for detailed information on what is in them and how to get to them (http://homepages.rootsweb.com ). The US Colonial "Census" CD is also useful for this. It collects a number of colonial census substitutes. It's a bird's eye view. Having ID's pockets of your surnames, look for wills and probates that ID family members. www.usgenweb will take you to many on line. Especially PA counties. The Cumberland ones are abstracted. Couldn't be easier. Even if your ancestors were PA Quakers they theoretically should have been on some militia list, even if they never got called up. The PA Archives website has additional indexes to what is in the published archives. Beyond that of course you have the US Service Records, on line at Ancestry. If you don't find them, check Loyalists. There's shelful of books to check. They are fried into a CD that you can use on line at www.genealogy.com if you are a member. Read the LDS guide to US indexes for more suggestions. I'd use IGI too to spot pockets. If your ancestor was a child during the Revolution you are looking for his father, whose name you don't know. You might guess it by identifying his oldest male child's name, or just scrape up all the households with your surname and use the wills to eliminate them. If your ancestor paid his passage and his wife's, he was well off (Dang Quakers were usually rich by other people's standards!). He came to the new world to join other friends, relatives, or business associates. So be VERY aware of the names of the people around him, who showed up at his wedding, whom he bought and sold and sued in the courts. You will want to find those same surnames in Ireland. I've posted directions a couple times to the list on how to do Irish Quaker research from the USA -- so check there. The stuff's at Swarthmores. The handwriting is atrocious so if you do go, bring a tall bottle of aspirin. The record situation differs which each colony, but you can also use French and Indian War military records to eyeball potential dads. This kinda works in VA. I think PA is more of a mess. My impression is Maryland has a good records situation. After researching a couple Virginia/PA families in Maryland, I'd not ever neglect Maryland, esp if there's Quakers involved. They hadn't yet built those 200 foot walls among the states so people crossed the state line with impunity. Almost as if they were Indians!! I have found people who lived in PA getting married in Maryland too. Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Lyndall Maxwell" <Lyndall_Maxwell@msn.com> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:55:20 -0600 >My William Maxwell (Scot-Irish) married Abigail Milhous (Irish Quaker). >Her parents sailed directly from Dublin to South Carolina and settled in the Camden area about 1751. >The unknown parents of William Maxwell (died 1794 Camden area) and his brother, John, came to South Carolina about 1751. >We don't know if they came directly to South Carolina or settled in PA first. >Do you have any connections? > >Lyndall Maxwell >lyndall_maxwell@msn.com<mailto:lyndall_maxwell@msn.com> > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Carolyn, what were your ancestors' names and when did they leave (if you know) and where'd they go to? We might be able to make connections. Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Carolyn, >Many of my ancestors settled in Derry in1630s and later. Was this an >English Plantation Derry was originally an English plantation. However it is adjacent to Antrim and areas settled by Scots in Tyrone. There were no tall fences. Furthermore, the Scots were relatively eager to settle while the English recalled the disastrous attempts to 'plant' Ireland with English in the Elizabethan days. The ones who came died at an alarming rate from a form of dysentery (if my mind is recalling correctly) that became known as "The English disease" because so many of them had it. So before long it was full of Scots. I think this info is from Hanna "The Scotch-Irish". >Where could I find more information on this area? Well, you can do a google search. You can check what is in LDS at www.familysearch.org (library catalog) and order and read. I have done that. You can search the archives of this list for the word Derry (do Londonderry as well) and find all kinds of stuff that others have posted and transcribed. There's a lot of local history. Unfortunately not a lot of it is by county, as in the USA where all the counties have histories. It's is by community: Lagan Valley, "The Route", etc, etc. So you often have to begin reading the general history then identifying communities, then reading, googling, searching, etc, on the specific community. Also there are estates that need researched. There are also parish histories, the OS Memoir Series, and the PlaceName Series of Northern Ireland. If you start with a book like Ryan "IRish History" that gives you the overview for each county. If you visit www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa and check the research guide, it'll introduce you to Hayes' indexes to Irish manuscripts and Smith's inventories which index articles in periodicals in LDS. The notion I am trying to convey is that there are HUGE amounts of information, most of it not organized in a way that you would expect. Ie, much of it is secondary lit published in many periodicals and contained in collections of manuscripts. It's simply a matter of how much research you want to do. Linda Merle It's endless.... > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Linda Merle <merle@mail.fea.net> >> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 2/17/2006 1:12:11 PM >> Subject: [Sc-Ir] News >> >> Hi folks, if you are receiving this email you are on the Scotch Irish >list. If you are a new member (or old) let us know or remind us of your >research interests. There may be cousins alurking or someone with a helpful >suggestion. >> >> Meanwhile back in the homeland, our cousins are hard at work preserving >our heritage and history. The following website looks nice. Not much there >now, but sign up for the enewsletter: >> http://www.hamiltonmontgomery1606.com/ >> >> Before Jamie Stewart came up with his idea for a public plantation, two >Scotsmen started one of their own in Ireland. They had -- and it remains so >400 years later -- that they settled more Scots than anyone else. Yet we >continue to associate the early 1600s migration to Ireland with the >publicly planted counties -- though few of our ancestors lived there. They >instead infested Antrim and Down -- private plantations with (DANG!) far >fewer records. >> >> To quote from an article on Hamilton and Montgomery in the current issue >of "The Ulster-Scot" (see www.ulsterscotsagency.com for info on getting >it), "They pioneered a massive settlement from the Lowlands of Scotland to >County Antrim and Co unty Down. Starting in May 1606, over ten thousand >Lowland Scots made the short voyage across the North Channel, transforming >barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse". (eventually! Of course our >ancestors had to endure the 17th century, not an easy thing to do in >Ireland). >> >> We're familiar with the early papers published in Hanna "The Scotch >Irish". Dr. Michael Montgomery, who has been known to join us on this list, >has uncovered a new stash of Montgomery papers, not in the Montgomery >papers because these were in Scotland. They include the marriage proposal >of Hugh Montgomery to his second wife. His first Elizabeth SHAW, died. She >was Sarah MAXWELL, daughter of William, Lord of Herries. >> >> The newspaper also contains an article by Dr. Montgomery that reprints >the marriage proposal. It was first published in "The Annandale Family Book >of the Johnstones Earls and Marquises of Annandale" ed. William Fraser. >Vol. 2, Edinburgh, 1894. >> >> And no, I do not know where you can get a copy. >> >> Another new website is http://www.breadyancestry.com/. It covers an area >in North Tyrone. It has a rich history including a medieval monastery and a >castle built by Turlough Luineach O'Neill, chieftain of the O'Neills. Then >the english built a fort. In the early 1700s the Earl of Abercorn was >granted the area (huge amounts of estate records are in LDS). Many from >Scotland settled here. >> >> Some of the records digitized on the website include: >> The registers of Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church, Donagheady Church >of Ireland, Donagheady Presbyterian Church, Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church >and Magheramason Presbyterian Church. >> Gravestone inscriptions from Grange, Old Donagheady and Old Leckpatrick >burial grounds >> Names of former pupils at Bready, Glenagoorland and Sandville schools >> Names extracted from maps, leases, letters and rentals of the Abercorn >estate from the 18th and 19th centuries >> 1901 census returns in full for the Bready area >> 19th-century valuation records >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Linda Many of my ancestors settled in Derry in1630s and later. Was this an English Plantation> Where could I find more information on this area? Carolyn > [Original Message] > From: Linda Merle <merle@mail.fea.net> > To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/17/2006 1:12:11 PM > Subject: [Sc-Ir] News > > Hi folks, if you are receiving this email you are on the Scotch Irish list. If you are a new member (or old) let us know or remind us of your research interests. There may be cousins alurking or someone with a helpful suggestion. > > Meanwhile back in the homeland, our cousins are hard at work preserving our heritage and history. The following website looks nice. Not much there now, but sign up for the enewsletter: > http://www.hamiltonmontgomery1606.com/ > > Before Jamie Stewart came up with his idea for a public plantation, two Scotsmen started one of their own in Ireland. They had -- and it remains so 400 years later -- that they settled more Scots than anyone else. Yet we continue to associate the early 1600s migration to Ireland with the publicly planted counties -- though few of our ancestors lived there. They instead infested Antrim and Down -- private plantations with (DANG!) far fewer records. > > To quote from an article on Hamilton and Montgomery in the current issue of "The Ulster-Scot" (see www.ulsterscotsagency.com for info on getting it), "They pioneered a massive settlement from the Lowlands of Scotland to County Antrim and Co unty Down. Starting in May 1606, over ten thousand Lowland Scots made the short voyage across the North Channel, transforming barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse". (eventually! Of course our ancestors had to endure the 17th century, not an easy thing to do in Ireland). > > We're familiar with the early papers published in Hanna "The Scotch Irish". Dr. Michael Montgomery, who has been known to join us on this list, has uncovered a new stash of Montgomery papers, not in the Montgomery papers because these were in Scotland. They include the marriage proposal of Hugh Montgomery to his second wife. His first Elizabeth SHAW, died. She was Sarah MAXWELL, daughter of William, Lord of Herries. > > The newspaper also contains an article by Dr. Montgomery that reprints the marriage proposal. It was first published in "The Annandale Family Book of the Johnstones Earls and Marquises of Annandale" ed. William Fraser. Vol. 2, Edinburgh, 1894. > > And no, I do not know where you can get a copy. > > Another new website is http://www.breadyancestry.com/. It covers an area in North Tyrone. It has a rich history including a medieval monastery and a castle built by Turlough Luineach O'Neill, chieftain of the O'Neills. Then the english built a fort. In the early 1700s the Earl of Abercorn was granted the area (huge amounts of estate records are in LDS). Many from Scotland settled here. > > Some of the records digitized on the website include: > The registers of Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church, Donagheady Church of Ireland, Donagheady Presbyterian Church, Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church and Magheramason Presbyterian Church. > Gravestone inscriptions from Grange, Old Donagheady and Old Leckpatrick burial grounds > Names of former pupils at Bready, Glenagoorland and Sandville schools > Names extracted from maps, leases, letters and rentals of the Abercorn estate from the 18th and 19th centuries > 1901 census returns in full for the Bready area > 19th-century valuation records > > Linda Merle > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net > > > >

Hi folks, if you are receiving this email you are on the Scotch Irish list. If you are a new member (or old) let us know or remind us of your research interests. There may be cousins alurking or someone with a helpful suggestion. Meanwhile back in the homeland, our cousins are hard at work preserving our heritage and history. The following website looks nice. Not much there now, but sign up for the enewsletter: http://www.hamiltonmontgomery1606.com/ Before Jamie Stewart came up with his idea for a public plantation, two Scotsmen started one of their own in Ireland. They had -- and it remains so 400 years later -- that they settled more Scots than anyone else. Yet we continue to associate the early 1600s migration to Ireland with the publicly planted counties -- though few of our ancestors lived there. They instead infested Antrim and Down -- private plantations with (DANG!) far fewer records. To quote from an article on Hamilton and Montgomery in the current issue of "The Ulster-Scot" (see www.ulsterscotsagency.com for info on getting it), "They pioneered a massive settlement from the Lowlands of Scotland to County Antrim and Co unty Down. Starting in May 1606, over ten thousand Lowland Scots made the short voyage across the North Channel, transforming barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse". (eventually! Of course our ancestors had to endure the 17th century, not an easy thing to do in Ireland). We're familiar with the early papers published in Hanna "The Scotch Irish". Dr. Michael Montgomery, who has been known to join us on this list, has uncovered a new stash of Montgomery papers, not in the Montgomery papers because these were in Scotland. They include the marriage proposal of Hugh Montgomery to his second wife. His first Elizabeth SHAW, died. She was Sarah MAXWELL, daughter of William, Lord of Herries. The newspaper also contains an article by Dr. Montgomery that reprints the marriage proposal. It was first published in "The Annandale Family Book of the Johnstones Earls and Marquises of Annandale" ed. William Fraser. Vol. 2, Edinburgh, 1894. And no, I do not know where you can get a copy. Another new website is http://www.breadyancestry.com/. It covers an area in North Tyrone. It has a rich history including a medieval monastery and a castle built by Turlough Luineach O'Neill, chieftain of the O'Neills. Then the english built a fort. In the early 1700s the Earl of Abercorn was granted the area (huge amounts of estate records are in LDS). Many from Scotland settled here. Some of the records digitized on the website include: The registers of Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church, Donagheady Church of Ireland, Donagheady Presbyterian Church, Leckpatrick Presbyterian Church and Magheramason Presbyterian Church. Gravestone inscriptions from Grange, Old Donagheady and Old Leckpatrick burial grounds Names of former pupils at Bready, Glenagoorland and Sandville schools Names extracted from maps, leases, letters and rentals of the Abercorn estate from the 18th and 19th centuries 1901 census returns in full for the Bready area 19th-century valuation records Linda Merle ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

Hi Lori, Sounds like you are starting out, on the 'net at least (pardon if you aren't). Two fast advices (my computer has been in the hospital for 3 days and I'm catching up on email....): 1. Post to us what info you have, especially the first and last names of the person, where they got off the UFO in the USA to be, etc. Maybe someone is researching the same person. Your email doesn't provide any info for us to help you out. 2. For general, starting out help, this isn't the best place. You can visit www.rootsweb.com and find lots of free help. You can find email lists that are focused on gentle helping of new people. Also the hub for internet genealogy is cyndislist.com . You can find free on line courses at www.genealogy.com/university.html . And if you type in www.google.com and search for free genealogy course you'll find more. www.ancestry.com has a lot of free stuff and very useful info for subscription. www.familysearch.org has much free info and the world's largest genealogy index, as well as free guides to the USA, each state, and Ireland. Best of luck! Linda Merle ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Plops Mom <plopsmom@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:24:52 -0500 >Greetings, > >My ancestor came to the US during the Revolutionary War. He lived in >Ireland at the time he fought against America. He stayed in America >following the war. We know that the name goes back to Scotland. I am >trying to find the best resources that would locate him or his family in >Ireland in the mid to late 1700's. I would appreciate any suggestions you >might have. > >Respectfully, > >Lori > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

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thought this might interest folk www.breadyancestry.com <http://www.breadyancestry.com> - contains information on the Bready area and has a searchable genealogical database containing nearly 30,000 individual records relating to families who lived in the area over the past 400 years. Unique £420,000 cultural centre for North Tyrone http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/UlsterScotJan06no1.asp A new all-purpose cultural centre to celebrate the strong Ulster-Scots connection in Bready, Co Tyrone, is to be developed this year at a cost of £420,000. The Bready village initiative is the first of its kind in the Ulster-Scots movement, catering solely as it will for Ulster-Scots culture and activity. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0607-1, 14/02/2006 Tested on: 15/02/2006 00:18:12 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

some spelling corrected as it was scanned in The U.S.A has a website for the Hamilton / Montgomery at:- http://www.hamiltonmontgomery1606.com/ Ulster-Scots Manuscript Gets Makeover http://www.newsletter.co.uk/story/26139 By Johnny Caldwell Tuesday 14th February 2006 Ancient documents detailing how thousands of Scots came to Ulster in the 17th century have been given a thoroughly modern makeover. An eBook of manuscripts from Hamilton/Montgomery Plantation, which predates the Ulster Plantation and the Flight of the Earls, was launched in Carrickfergus yesterday. Ayrshire Scots James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery pioneered a massive settlement from the Lowlands of Scotland to Counties Antrim and Down. Starting in May 1606, over 10,000 thousand, mainly Presbyterian, made the short voyage across the North Channel, and in the process helped transform barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse. Mark Thompson, Ulster-Scots Agency chairman, said: "What today is all about is ensuring that Ulster-Scots is taken seriously in the world of local historians and to this end we've invited representatives from a variety of organisations ,including the Ulster Historical Foundation, the Ulster History Circle and the Federation for Ulster Local Studies. "Believe it or not, there are some people that would say Ulster-Scots and the surrounding history and culture was only invented 10 years ago, however, here we have manuscripts dating from the later part of the 17th century which tell of two Scottish families' key role in the first large-scale migration into Ulster." j.caldwell@newsletter.co.uk eBook reveals Ulster-Scots background Mon 12th Feb BY STEVEN MOORE s.moore@newsletter.co.uk DOCUMENTS that tell the story behind how 10,000 Scots came to settle in counties Down and Antrim 400 years ago have been developed into a cutting edge historical research tool. The family manuscripts from Scots gentry James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery, who ended up each getting a third of Ulster chieftain Con O'Neill's land after an intriguing rescue plot, are now available in an eBook CD rom format from the Ulster-Scots Agency. The cross-border agency, which responsible for the promotion of the Ulster-Scots language, culture and heritage, today launched the eBook at Carrickfergus Castle to an audience of historians and local government representatives. Ayrshire Scots Hamilton and Montgomery, after arranging the escape of O'Neill from Warrick, began the the first large-scale migration of Scots into Ulster. Agency chairman Mark Thompson said he 1,000 copies of the CD rom was the first ime that historical Ulster-Scots research iocuments had been produced in such a format. "We have produced facsimile, searchable eBook CD rom editions of the two authoritative records of the Settlement," he said. "The advantage with this digital format is that the user will view a facsimile onscreen which, thanks to leading-edge technology, can now be text-searched. "The opportunities for research work are limitless. These will undoubtedly appeal to historians and genealogists alike, and provide a scholarly yet innovative starting point in telling the story of The Dawn of the Ulster-Scots." Mr Thompson, who personally supplied a copy of the Montgomery manuscripts, said the agency had the support of the current Hamilton and Montgomery families in marking the 400th anniversary. The Hamilton Manuscripts and the Montgomery Manuscripts were written by the family historians of the era and were initially published in the early 1700s. The most recent printings of the documents are from around 1860 and are considered valuable collectors items. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0607-1, 14/02/2006 Tested on: 14/02/2006 23:51:38 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Ulster-Scots Manuscript Gets Makeover http://www.newsletter.co.uk/story/26139 By Johnny Caldwell Tuesday 14th February 2006 Ancient documents detailing how thousands of Scots came to Ulster in the 17th century have been given a thoroughly modern makeover. An eBook of manuscripts from Hamilton/Montgomery Plantation, which predates the Ulster Plantation and the Flight of the Earls, was launched in Carrickfergus yesterday. Ayrshire Scots James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery pioneered a massive settlement from the Lowlands of Scotland to Counties Antrim and Down. Starting in May 1606, over 10,000 thousand, mainly Presbyterian, made the short voyage across the North Channel, and in the process helped transform barren Ulster into an industrial powerhouse. Mark Thompson, Ulster-Scots Agency chairman, said: "What today is all about is ensuring that Ulster-Scots is taken seriously in the world of local historians and to this end we've invited representatives from a variety of organisations ,including the Ulster Historical Foundation, the Ulster History Circle and the Federation for Ulster Local Studies. "Believe it or not, there are some people that would say Ulster-Scots and the surrounding history and culture was only invented 10 years ago, however, here we have manuscripts dating from the later part of the 17th century which tell of two Scottish families' key role in the first large-scale migration into Ulster." j.caldwell@newsletter.co.uk *eBook reveals Ulster-Scots background* Mon 12th Feb BY STEVEN MOORE s.moore@newsletter.co.uk DOCUMENTS that tell the story behind how 10,000 Scots came to settle in counties Down and Antrim 400 years ago have been developed into a cutting edge historical research tool. The family manuscripts from Scots gentry James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery, who ended up each getting a third of Ulster chieftain Con O'Neill's land after an intriguing rescue plot, are now available in an eBook CD rom format from the Ulster-Scots Agency. The cross-border agency, which responsible for the promotion of the Ulster-Scots anguage, culture and heritage, today aunched the eBook at Carrickfergus Cas-;le to an audience of historians and local government representatives. Ayrshire Scots Hamilton and Montgomery, ifter arranging the escape of O'Neill from Warrick, began the the first large-scale migration of Scots into Ulster. Agency chairman Mark Thompson said he 1,000 copies of the CD rom was the first ime that historical Ulster-Scots research iocuments had been produced in such a for-nat. "We have produced facsimile, searchable eBook CD rom editions of the two authoritative records of the Settlement," he said. "The advantage with this digital format is that the user will view a facsimile onscreen which, thanks to leading-edge technology, can now be text-searched. "The opportunities for research work are limitless. These will undoubtedly appeal to historians and genealogists alike, and provide a scholarly yet innovative starting point in telling the story of The Dawn of the Ulster-Scots." Mr Thompson, who personally supplied a copy of the Montgomery manuscripts, said the agency had the support of the current Hamilton and Montgomery families in marking the 400th anniversary. The Hamilton Manuscripts and the Montgomery Manuscripts were written by the family historians of the era and were initially published in the early 1700s. The most recent printings of the documents are from around 1860 and are considered valuable collectors items. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0607-1, 14/02/2006 Tested on: 14/02/2006 23:48:30 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

At first try, it doesn't seem very easy to use? Doesn't seem to be any way to search the site for a name. Each click on the "search" button brings up another page. Other pages in the site work differently, somehow. For records that old, a soundex search would be most useful? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <alan@ulster-scots.co.uk> To: <Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: [Sc-Ir] Unique £420,000 cultural centre for North Tyrone > thought this might interest folk > www.breadyancestry.com <http://www.breadyancestry.com> - contains > information on the Bready area and has a searchable genealogical database > containing nearly 30,000 individual records relating to families who lived > in the area over the past 400 years. > > > Unique £420,000 cultural centre for North Tyrone > http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/UlsterScotJan06no1.asp > > A new all-purpose cultural centre to celebrate the strong Ulster-Scots > connection in Bready, Co Tyrone, is to be developed this year at a cost of > £420,000. The Bready village initiative is the first of its kind in the > Ulster-Scots movement, catering solely as it will for Ulster-Scots culture > and activity. > > > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0607-1, 14/02/2006 > Tested on: 15/02/2006 00:18:12 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > >

Greetings, My ancestor came to the US during the Revolutionary War. He lived in Ireland at the time he fought against America. He stayed in America following the war. We know that the name goes back to Scotland. I am trying to find the best resources that would locate him or his family in Ireland in the mid to late 1700's. I would appreciate any suggestions you might have. Respectfully, Lori

Previous message <<Hi, Just heard from Picton Press, they don't have any of the books on Researching Scots-Irish by William Roulston, said when they received the books this book was not in the list. They regretted the lack of the book, said it would be taken off their list of titles. Thought you would want to know. Mary Widener>> They told me that it was on the list, but wasn't in the inventory - They advised me of this after they took an order from me (including payment) I am glad they have their act together now. Bettye

Linda wrote: <Hi folks, I get these reminder emails from various places I've forgotten about (so I apparently need these reminders). Today I got one from Genes Reunited, a UK/Ireland Aussie genealogy website. They want you to upgrade to their paid version of course. I haven't yet, but I did a free search and found a number of people looking for family in my dad's area of England. I'm definitely uploading my tree. Might work for some of the rest of you too!> This was a great resource! I found a widow of a third cousin who had much of our mutual family and was glad to share. Thank you SO much!! Ann in MI

Hello - My great-grandparents moved from Ireland to Scotland to the U.S (in 1887). Below is everything I know about them. I would appreciate any help or guidance you could give me in locating them in Ireland. Is anyone else researching these families? Thanks. Pete Dady Their marriage record says that James ERVINE, 21, married Mary LYONS, 19, on 8 Nov 1851 in the town of Lisburn, County Antrim, Ireland. Protestants, I assume. The husband's father was Andrew ERVINE; the wife's father was James LYONS. At some point, seemingly between 1861 and 1871 they moved to Scotland. I can't find them in the 1861 Census in Scotland. Census of 1871, in Back row [?], Slamannan, Stirling, Scotland: - James IRVINE, head, 39, coal miner, born in Ireland - Mary IRVINE, wife, 38, coal miner's wife, born in Ireland - Andrew IRVINE, son, 19, pupil teacher, born in Slamannan, Stirlingshire [sic?] - Anna IRVINE, dau., 12, scholar, born in Slamannan, Stirlingshire [sic?] - Jane IRVINE, dau., 7, scholar, born in Slamannan, Stirlingshire - John IRVINE, son, 3, born in Slamannan, Stirlingshire Census of 1881, in Back Street, Slamannan, Stirling, Scotland: - James IRVINE, head, coal miner, 49, born in Ireland - Mary L. IRVINE, wife, 47, born in Ireland - John IRVINE, son, scholar, 13, born in Slamannan, Scotland - Robert McNay, unmarried, boarder, labourer, 35, born in Ireland Daughter Annie IRVINE married Robert FISHER in the Church of Scotland, in Slamannan, Falkirk, Scotland in 1878. The Scottish Census of 1881 says that both were born in Ireland - this disagrees with the Census of 1871, which says that Annie was born in Scotland. I think it more likely that she was born in Ireland; her birth date is known to be 24 Apr 1858 (before the Census of 1861), and she can't be found on Scotlandspeople (nor can Robert). Robert FISHER born 17 Jan 1854, likely in Ireland, to Thomas FISHER (a farmer, deceased by 1878) and Jane HOLLOWS. Robert was a blacksmith, but like Annie's father, he worked at coal mines. Census of 1881, dwelling in Little Bathville Row, Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland: - Robert FISHER, 27, head, blacksmith, born Ireland - Annie FISHER, 22, wife, born Ireland - Mary FISHER, 1, born West Calder, Edinburgh [sic?] Scotland - Thomas FISHER, 2 mo., born Bathville, Linlithgow, Scotland

Hi, Just heard from Picton Press, they don't have any of the books on Researching Scots-Irish by William Roulston, said when they received the books this book was not in the list. They regretted the lack of the book, said it would be taken off their list of titles. Thought you would want to know. Mary Widener

Hi Linda and others, I understand that a fact cannot be copyrighted. That is, "John Doe was born in England on 21 January 1878". But if that fact is embellished with additional information collected from another source such as one's own research, then copyright may become an issue. For example if one was to follow on from that statement of fact with a statement such as - "I had the pleasure of meeting John just before his passing and have recorded the following story of his exploits during the Boer War" ---- then that research is copyrighted and deemed to be yours. But similarly the fact of his passing away on 6 June 1953 and was buried 3 day's later is a fact, cannot be copyright notwithstanding you may have spent the weeks grocery money establishing that fact. And, if for example his death required a coronial hearing and you write up the details, rather than merely ad-lib them and perhaps record your own opinion, you own the copyright. That is the situation as I understand it to be ( and I guess I own the copyright for writing this opinion !) Best to all, Adrian Verry -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - Release Date: 8/02/2006

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