Linda, I will attempt to add a little to the discussion. Many of our ancestors may have been desperately poor tenant farmers by the time they emigrated, but that doesn't mean that they always were. They could have been listed in books like the Palatine ones, or others. There is a book called "The Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland" by John P. Prendergast (full text online through books.google.com) which is full of lists of names of all sorts of people, including soldiers, "adventurers", priests and people transplanted to Connaught. It is a very valuable book. Did you know how many young Irish people were shipped into slavery in the West Indies? I found pages 428 and 429 fascinating on this subject. Ann Lamb In a message dated 2/27/2010 3:39:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: They weren't transported to Connacht by Cromwell, so the transportee records were no loss. Etc, etc. These records largely involved the upper class, which our ancestors were not.

Do you think the name Large or Lar'ge is Palatine rather than Hugenot? I'm trying to trace my mothers family of Larges from Ohio and Illinois back from 1850 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [S-I] Palatine History Hi folks, in exploring today's free Global Genealogy newsletter, it announced a book "The Irish Palatines in Ontario: Religion, Ethnicity, and Rural Migration - Second Edition By Carolyn A. Heald. Published by Global Heritage Press. This new book provides a broad history of the Palatines in Ontario, where they came from, where they settled, and what characterized their communities. It is not a catalogue of every Irish Palatine who settled in Ontario. However, the book does contain lists of individuals and many references to specific persons and families. In this new second edition of The Irish Palatines in Ontario the author has corrected known errors from the original 1994 edition and added a completely new chapter on Barbara Heck and the Loyalist Palatines plus other refinements and new material. " http://www.globalgenealogy.com/countries/ireland/ I then found a website: http://www.irishpalatines.org/ and a free book: http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/history.html The story of the Palatines: An episode in colonial history book now in zotero. Linda Merle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some time ago, I took down the sentence below from <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ote/palalist.htm>. If you go to the webpage, you'll see the context, and other Palatine info. "At the invitation of Queen Anne in the spring of 1709, about 7000 harassed Palatines sailed down the Rhine to Rotterdam. From there, about 3000 were dispatched to America, either directly or via England, under the auspices of William Penn. The remaining 4000 were sent via England to Ireland to strengthen the Protestant interest." R.E. McLaughlin Ottawa On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM, NCN, INC <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Virginia, > > My husband descends from the Nellesin/Nelles family.  In our research have determined they were French Huguenots who came down the Rhine River.  Its interesting to me that you think some may have gone to Ireland.  Are you thinking that this happened when the Queen shipped several thousand people out of the Palatinate?  I have never heard this. > > Thank You > > Judy

Yes, Linda: When I was researching my husband's Palatine Nellis family (who landed in NY in 1710), I was contacted by a descendant of an Irish 'O'Nellis' family. He had been certain the name was truly Irish, but learning that it was a Palatine name planted a seed of doubt, and indicated the need for further research. Although we didn't maintain contact, I feel pretty sure the family was part of that mass exodus, and that at least one group of the Nellis family chose Ireland over any part of the "New World". Pretty extensive records of the Palatine émigrés to this country were kept. Their story has been researched extensively, and a number of excellent books about them have been published. When their proposed job of supplying pine pitch for the British Navy proved unworkable (the trees were the wrong kind - a classic bureaucratic boo-boo), many left the camps where the English had housed them, "squatted" on land in the Mohawk Valley & eventually gained title to it. They were America's first large group of non-English speaking immigrants and their participation in earlier wars (Queen Anne's, 1812, French & Indian) greatly impacted events that led to the Revolution. While most of them joined the colonists during the Revolution, some stayed loyal to the English, and many Palatine names are also found in Canada. This era and these people are depicted in the movie "Drums Along the Mohawk", starring Henry Fonda, whose ancestors WERE Palatines from this area. Fonda, Montgomery Co. NY was named for them. I found margin notes signed by a Fonda descendant in some of the books in the Montgomery County Heritage & Genealogical Society there - one was a correction of information about my husband's family. Virginia -------------- . . . in looking for a second hand copy of "The Irish Palatines in Ontario" (and finding none, but the first edition is in the Family History Library.....), I did find this lecture entitled "Desperation genealogy or What the Rest of Us Can Learn from Irish Family History Researchers" . . . if anyone is wondering what is a Palatine -- it is a group of people who lived in the Palatinate area of what is now Germany, Protestants, who migrated in the 1700s. Some went directly to the New World while some went to England and Ireland. At the time various Irish estate owners were looking for Protestant tenants. The largest number were settled in Limerick. Many then joined the migration to the New World. Some of us think our ancestors were Scotch Irish and they were not: they were Palatines, so we're looking in the wrong end of Ireland for them. So check the list of surnames of Palatines. Some are listed on the web here: http://globalgenealogy.com/countries/canada/ontario/general/resources/101185 .htm The names include Adamson, Baker, Bowen, Brown, etc -- names that don't seem German at all. The Limerick people began coming to the Americas in large numbers in 1709 -- before the Scotch Irish -- and they founded American Methodism. Linda Merle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks, in looking for a second hand copy of "The Irish Palatines in Ontario" (and finding none, but the first edition is in the Family History Library.....), I did find this lecture entitled "Desperation genealogy or What the Rest of Us Can Learn from Irish Family History Researchers" It includes "Desperation Genealogy: Notes for Irish Researchers" It kind of explains how to do Irish genealogy -- in lieu of there being few useful church records (ie ones that include the names of our ancestors -- the Church of Ireland records largely do not include the names of dissent Protestants or Catholics, constituting well over 90% of the population), no censuses till 1901, etc. Actually not many records that name our ancestors were destroyed in 1922 in the fire so I do disagree with this truism. I learned this at a lecture at a conference. Our ancestors didn't write wills, so they were no great loss to us, nor were ours in the burnt up Church of Ireland church records. They weren't transported to Connacht by Cromwell, so the transportee records were no loss. Etc, etc. These records largely involved the upper class, which our ancestors were not. We would have all still been in serious trouble, had we attempted to do Irish genealogy like people do genealogy elsewhere even if the Four Courts fire had not occured. No, our problems are things like illegal churches (that keep no records), the disbarment of most of the population from the military, middle class occupations, etc, and the persistent feudalism meaning that our ancestors' names are buried in unindexed estate records. Here it is: http://www.afhs.ab.ca/aids/talks/2009-Desperation-Genealogy-Irish-research.pdf Also if anyone is wondering what is a Palatine -- it is a group of people who lived in the Palatinate area of what is now Germany, Protestants, who migrated in the 1700s. Some went directly to the New World while some went to England and Ireland. At the time various Irish estate owners were looking for Protestant tenants. The largest number were settled in Limerick. Many then joined the migration to the New World. Some of us think our ancestors were Scotch Irish and they were not: they were Palatines, so we're looking in the wrong end of Ireland for them. So check the list of surnames of Palatines. Some are listed on the web here: http://globalgenealogy.com/countries/canada/ontario/general/resources/101185.htm The names include Adamson, Baker, Bowen, Brown, etc -- names that don't seem German at all. The Limerick people began coming to the Americas in large numbers in 1709 -- before the Scotch Irish -- and they founded American Methodism. Also some nice songs about them in Ireland like the Palatine's Daughter <grin>! http://songbook1.tripod.com/PalatinesDaughter.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTUv9UGKem8 Linda Merle

Hi folks, in exploring today's free Global Genealogy newsletter, it announced a book "The Irish Palatines in Ontario: Religion, Ethnicity, and Rural Migration - Second Edition By Carolyn A. Heald. Published by Global Heritage Press. This new book provides a broad history of the Palatines in Ontario, where they came from, where they settled, and what characterized their communities. It is not a catalogue of every Irish Palatine who settled in Ontario. However, the book does contain lists of individuals and many references to specific persons and families. In this new second edition of The Irish Palatines in Ontario the author has corrected known errors from the original 1994 edition and added a completely new chapter on Barbara Heck and the Loyalist Palatines plus other refinements and new material. " http://www.globalgenealogy.com/countries/ireland/ I then found a website: http://www.irishpalatines.org/ and a free book: http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/history.html The story of the Palatines: An episode in colonial history book now in zotero. Linda Merle

Hi Ann, that's some great sleuth work! I don't know why my great grandmother's middle name was Grant. No Grants in the family. Maybe after Ulysses S. I have also heard tell of babies being named after the doctor that delivered them, so I guess with the Melancthon, that's another angle to pursue. We did once name a dog after the vet who delivered him. This made return vet visits a little embarrassing. Luckily my family isn't too creative when it comes to names. However I did end up in the 1970s have two dogs named after female body parts. The first was my fault. I was into yoga at the time, so Yoni. My daughter named Yoni's daughter Gika after an imaginary playmate (large nasty white rabbit, perhaps???). Come to find out that was the same thing in a dialect of Porta Rican Spanish. Which meant we could not move to a Spanish neighborhood since we could not open the door and yell GIIIIIKKKKKAAAA without attracting considerable attention. Since then we've been more careful with the naming of dogs. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:55:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [S-I] Melancthon and other unusual names The Irish naming pattern may have held in the "ould country", but once emigrated some of our ancestors kicked over the traces. When my Irish-born great-grandfather, Patrick Moloney, named his first son (born in 1874 in Portland OR) Thomas Emmet, no-one was too surprised, I am sure, because Emmet was a famous Irish patriot, lawyer, and NY Attorney General. But I have never been quite sure about why the second (b. 1877). was named Patrick Richelieu. I was sure it was not for the notorious "red cardinal" of France. Finally I discovered a likely source: William Erigena ROBINSON, (1814—1892) - known as "Richelieu" a congressman from New York; born in Unagh, near Cookstown, County Tyrone, Ireland, May 6, 1814; immigrated to New York City in 1836; was graduated from Yale College in 1841; assistant editor of the New York Tribune in 1843 and its only Washington correspondent, writing under the name of "RICHELIEU"; also wrote Washington correspondence for other papers; was admitted to the New York bar in 1854 and practiced law in New York City; appointed by President Lincoln assessor of internal revenue for the third district of New York in 1862; elected as a Democrat to the Fortieth Congress (March 4, 1867-March 3, 1869); resumed the practice of law; elected to the Forty-seventh and Forty-eighth Congresses (March 4, 1881-March 3, 1885); died in Brooklyn, N.Y., on January 23, 1892. I appears that my greatgrandfather admired men with legal minds and patriotic leanings. His sons followed in his footsteps. But that's another story. Ann Lamb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David --I absolutely love your sign off Carolyn > [Original Message] > From: David C Abernathy <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 2/27/2010 8:25:49 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Bibliography Project > > I things set up. > Later check out > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Congratulations! > Your Group Scotch-Irish-Zotero has been created. You can access your group > using the link below or from the Yahoo! Groups "My Groups" page. > > Group name: Scotch-Irish-Zotero > Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Scotch-Irish-Zotero > Group email: [email protected] > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus� == > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David C Abernathy > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [S-I] Bibliography Project > > Once I get my Yahoo account reactivated, I will set up a group. > It has been a Looooooong time since I used my yahoo account [evilgrin] > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus� == > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [S-I] Bibliography Project > > Hi Dave, you are way ahead of me. I still gotta upgrade my Zotero. (Just > found out where it stores my stuff so I can back it up first!). > > A separate mailing list would be useful indeed. You want to create it?? > Yahoo or rootsweb...Yahoo lets you store files. > > Linda Merle > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I things set up. Later check out +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Congratulations! Your Group Scotch-Irish-Zotero has been created. You can access your group using the link below or from the Yahoo! Groups "My Groups" page. Group name: Scotch-Irish-Zotero Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Scotch-Irish-Zotero Group email: [email protected] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David C Abernathy Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [S-I] Bibliography Project Once I get my Yahoo account reactivated, I will set up a group. It has been a Looooooong time since I used my yahoo account [evilgrin] Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [S-I] Bibliography Project Hi Dave, you are way ahead of me. I still gotta upgrade my Zotero. (Just found out where it stores my stuff so I can back it up first!). A separate mailing list would be useful indeed. You want to create it?? Yahoo or rootsweb...Yahoo lets you store files. Linda Merle

Hi Susan, >" Melancthon died on April 19, 1560, his hopes for reconciliation of the Christian Churches not fulfilled to this day". >1560 is the same year Anderson name came to Ireland with 'The Stewarts of Ballintoy'. In 1560 there was not even an ethnic group called "Scotch Irish". The term "Scoto Hibernicus" was used by Queen Elizabeth to identify Catholic Scots highlanders in the McDonald army who were infesting northern Ulster. The future lowland settlers were still in Scotland and England in 1650 where they would remain for almost 60 more years. And those Andersons were probably my ancestors. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSAN BR" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:17:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Melancthon In the article mentioned below " Melancthon died on April 19, 1560, his hopes for reconciliation of the Christian Churches not fulfilled to this day". 1560 is the same year Anderson name came to Ireland with 'The Stewarts of Ballintoy'. Susan > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:29:44 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [S-I] Melancthon > > http://www.answers.com/topic/philip-melancthon > > " The German scholar and humanist Philip Melancthon (1497-1560) was the chief systematic theologian of the early Reformation and principal author of the famous Augsburg Confession of 1530." > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H. Nevin" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:12:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [S-I] Melancthon > > The question has come up on another list as to how, in the middle of > the 19th century, an American family - United Presbyterians of > Scotch-Irish ancestry - would use "Melanthon" as a middle name. Can > anyone comment? Edward? Linda? Thanks. Hugh > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Irish naming pattern may have held in the "ould country", but once emigrated some of our ancestors kicked over the traces. When my Irish-born great-grandfather, Patrick Moloney, named his first son (born in 1874 in Portland OR) Thomas Emmet, no-one was too surprised, I am sure, because Emmet was a famous Irish patriot, lawyer, and NY Attorney General. But I have never been quite sure about why the second (b. 1877). was named Patrick Richelieu. I was sure it was not for the notorious "red cardinal" of France. Finally I discovered a likely source: William Erigena ROBINSON, (1814—1892) - known as "Richelieu" a congressman from New York; born in Unagh, near Cookstown, County Tyrone, Ireland, May 6, 1814; immigrated to New York City in 1836; was graduated from Yale College in 1841; assistant editor of the New York Tribune in 1843 and its only Washington correspondent, writing under the name of "RICHELIEU"; also wrote Washington correspondence for other papers; was admitted to the New York bar in 1854 and practiced law in New York City; appointed by President Lincoln assessor of internal revenue for the third district of New York in 1862; elected as a Democrat to the Fortieth Congress (March 4, 1867-March 3, 1869); resumed the practice of law; elected to the Forty-seventh and Forty-eighth Congresses (March 4, 1881-March 3, 1885); died in Brooklyn, N.Y., on January 23, 1892. I appears that my greatgrandfather admired men with legal minds and patriotic leanings. His sons followed in his footsteps. But that's another story. Ann Lamb

Hi Doug, Rootsweb sends out the posts like a water spigot emits water. Whatever is happening is happening between it and you -- ie the plumbing. You ask for suggestions? Dump AOL! Rootsweb has many problems caused by AOL. Is it causing this one? I donno. Rootsweb also has a help desk (go to www.rootsweb.com and click on Help) and it might have some information there. I just checked -- forget it, nothing there. Everyone you try to get to help you will assume it is your spam filter. So be prepared to prove your spamfilter isn't screwing things up. >Is there anyway to alphabatize the book list that we are generating with Zotero? Yes. Go here: http://www.zotero.org/support/ and read the section on • Generating Bibliographies, References and Reports • Bibliographies & Citations • Word Processor Integration • RTF Scan • Reports I do not see how to export a group library right now or a way to sort it (which I assume is what you mean). What we are supposed to do (I think ) is sync -- ie you drag items down to your zotero, where you can then generate these reports, etc......I think you want a report: http://www.zotero.org/support/reports Once you get the stuff onto your PC via sync, you can export the stuff. All these tools they create to make things easier always seem to make something obvious much harder <grin>!! It's not clear to me whether the long term intent of zotero groups is to enable people to be able to use the collection on line by sorting, etc, or whether the expectation is you will sync to your computer. Right now there seems to be rudimentary control on the on line library -- ie you can see the item and drag it to your private library. But for starters, make sure email isn't caught in your spam filter. Don't ask me how to figure that out. You may need to get support from AOL. Nothing relevant on the Listowners list. If anyone can help, help help!! (These admin comments should go to the admin privately but everyone unsubbed due to the weather thread so there's few left to annoy -- and you don't need more grief, I suspect). Best of luck, Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:58:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Melancthon In a message dated 2/26/2010 5:47:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, HN[email protected] writes: > > Thanks, Linda I am not sure what is happening with the message routing on this list but I seem to be missing a number of them. As an example I have not received Linda's e-mail which is being responded to. In fact I have not received a number of Linda's but fortunately people respond back and I get to read it then. Suggestions? Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL PS: Is there anyway to alphabatize the book list that we are generating with Zotero? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hugh, We know nothing about them -- what country they lived in, what time frame, or what their educational background was. Yet you expect us to tell you why they used the name of this famous Protestant Humanist? We aren't gods or even spiritualists, my friend! As Data would say "Insufficient data to proceed". Perhaps their best friend was named it, or even their dog. Perhaps there was a book on the shelf in which the name occured. They opened it at random and found this name. This COULD have occured, for my parents, both uneducated people of largely British origins (one German great grannie on my mother's side) who claimed to be Presbyterians and thus Calivinists but who never studied Calvin and thus could not be said to understand their religion, had on their shelves all their lives a series of books by the great humanists such as Erasmus. I don't think they got read <grin>! Esp. by me. So my parents could have opened the book and pointed. I am glad I am not named Erasmus. Or they or a friend or relative was educated and knew and liked him and it was their way of letting the world know who they liked. There is nothing to stop someone of British origins from reading the actual roots of his religion (which did not occur in Britain). It's not even illegal to read Luther and Calvin. People in Britain and from Britain like people elsewhere rarely let a stupid thing like ethnicity restrain their intellect. No one things "No, wait, I can't read that book or admire that man: I'm English and he's German." Well, no one under the age of 30 at least. And some of our ancestors were educated whether in a school or not. So they actually had thoughts and opinions that were not constrained by their ethnicity. I think in the past there were sometimes fewer 'walls' and I absolutely DO know that Christians were expected to actually know their religion and its origins. My family has a dog-eared book by John Owen (famous English theologian with his own website: http://www.johnowen.org/ ) that belonged to a great great grandmother of English origins (CULMER, from Kent). She never went to college or probably high school, yet she or someone, perhaps her ancestors, read this book. She is somehow related to the famous Blue Dick Culmer, who was a general under Cromwell and infamous Calvinist minister and knew John Owen but this book is too recent --published in the late 1800s. So I can ramble on and speculate but that is all it is without data, and even so, there are some things that unless the people involved wrote it down or told someone, you are not ever going to know without becoming a spiritualist and channelling them and asking them yourselves. At some point, hopefully very quickly, when doing family history, we have to come to recognize when we have enough data to explain something and when we don't. In this case we do not. The only things to do is gather more data or embark on a trip to fantasyland. We've all been there but we don't always realize it <grin>. It would be nice to say that clearly it indicates they were intelligent educated people but maybe the minister next door named his dog and his neighbors re-used it, so I don't think you can make this assumption. If you tell us the father taught theology at Harvard we can then make some assumptions, but otherwise you need to find yourself in inexpensive spiritualist and ring up the responsible parties and interrogate them directly. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Nevin" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:33:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Melancthon Thanks, Linda. I should have been more specific: how did the Scotch-Irish pick up the use of the co-founder of Lutheranism in Germany? H. On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: > http://www.answers.com/topic/philip-melancthon > > " The German scholar and humanist Philip Melancthon (1497-1560) was > the chief systematic theologian of the early Reformation and principal > author of the famous Augsburg Confession of 1530." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.answers.com/topic/philip-melancthon " The German scholar and humanist Philip Melancthon (1497-1560) was the chief systematic theologian of the early Reformation and principal author of the famous Augsburg Confession of 1530." Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Nevin" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:12:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [S-I] Melancthon The question has come up on another list as to how, in the middle of the 19th century, an American family - United Presbyterians of Scotch-Irish ancestry - would use "Melanthon" as a middle name. Can anyone comment? Edward? Linda? Thanks. Hugh ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the article mentioned below " Melancthon died on April 19, 1560, his hopes for reconciliation of the Christian Churches not fulfilled to this day". 1560 is the same year Anderson name came to Ireland with 'The Stewarts of Ballintoy'. Susan > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:29:44 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [S-I] Melancthon > > http://www.answers.com/topic/philip-melancthon > > " The German scholar and humanist Philip Melancthon (1497-1560) was the chief systematic theologian of the early Reformation and principal author of the famous Augsburg Confession of 1530." > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H. Nevin" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:12:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [S-I] Melancthon > > The question has come up on another list as to how, in the middle of > the 19th century, an American family - United Presbyterians of > Scotch-Irish ancestry - would use "Melanthon" as a middle name. Can > anyone comment? Edward? Linda? Thanks. Hugh > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 2/26/2010 5:47:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > Thanks, Linda I am not sure what is happening with the message routing on this list but I seem to be missing a number of them. As an example I have not received Linda's e-mail which is being responded to. In fact I have not received a number of Linda's but fortunately people respond back and I get to read it then. Suggestions? Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL PS: Is there anyway to alphabatize the book list that we are generating with Zotero?

Thanks, Linda. I should have been more specific: how did the Scotch-Irish pick up the use of the co-founder of Lutheranism in Germany? H. On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: > http://www.answers.com/topic/philip-melancthon > > " The German scholar and humanist Philip Melancthon (1497-1560) was > the chief systematic theologian of the early Reformation and principal > author of the famous Augsburg Confession of 1530."

The question has come up on another list as to how, in the middle of the 19th century, an American family - United Presbyterians of Scotch-Irish ancestry - would use "Melanthon" as a middle name. Can anyone comment? Edward? Linda? Thanks. Hugh

It has been very cold but beautiful around Glasgow . Sun and blue skies. But yesterday the snow returned. It's not nice snow - wet and slushy! And now they forecast rain! Donna Sent from my iPhone On 24 Feb 2010, at 16:24, [email protected] wrote: >

I imagine Linda is ready to return to genealogy, so I'll keep this short. I hope. Here in eastern Indiana, we were lucky. 3 big storms in 2 weeks and we are disgusted with the white stuff.. We are running out of space. We are running out of patience. It is cold all the time, the sun has been covered up for days on end. Maybe a peek for 10-20 minutes and back again under clouds. We laugh because where my daughter works, if snow is predicted, the place fills up and bread, milk, eggs and various other stuff disappears. The registers ring constantly. LOL Marlene On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Sarah wrote: > We too went thru a great deep freeze in the ice storm of > 2007................most of Kansas light poles went down broke under > lbs of > ice and trees broke down the rest of them.............1600 poles in > our area > alone...............you do make do and I know many families who got > closer > by playing dominos, cards, monopoly, etc.....we melted icycles and > snow for > water.......back like pioneer days........good for us.......we had a > generator for the freezer and ran them 4 hrs at a time......we live and > learn......just lot of snow this yr. Hang in there...........enjoying > the > mail..... > Sarah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Nichols" <[email protected]> > To: "Scotch-Irish list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:03 PM > Subject: [S-I] snow, maniacs, and all other sorts of things. > > >> All our snowbirds...and full timers at the UU are Maniacs (yep, we >> call >> them that...and the nickname suits them.. :) >> >> What is happening to a bunch of you is something we dealt with years >> ago..called 'Cabin Fever', so we can let you all ramble..and then your >> sanity will return when the snow goes away and you can get out, drive >> around, walk somewhere, and see something other than falling snow!!! >> Just >> think, we got snowed in and were without power for a week in the >> Smokies, >> a quarter mile hike DOWN to a road that no one could get >> through...melted >> snow for drinking and flushing (Guess how much snow it takes to flush >> a >> toilet twice a day..melting it on a woodburner in a bucket), cooking >> inside the woodburner, having a waterbed that became unuseable...so we >> moved two trundle bed mattresses into the living room in front of the >> woodburner and the greyhound curled up between us.. and then getting >> out >> and discovering our woodpile was running short (it was Friday the >> 13th of >> March when the blizzard hit). My freezer was on the carport, so I >> had to >> OPEN the door of the freezer to keep things frozen! ! >> We lived above Pigeon Forge, TN..and all the power poles were down >> across >> our only way out! >> >> Donna >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >