I think the only thing that would work is a picture of you, Linda. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group >I LOVE it!!! > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 8:59:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > Hmmm, or a leprachan with a surprised look sitting on a thistle ;-) > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:32 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > >> Hi Boyd, your symbol works for you, but in Tennessee, I am not sure >> anyone >> would understand it. >> We'd have to spend lots of Euros/dollars doing market research to be sure >> of course. The first >> time I ran into the Red Hand was in a book. It makes no sense here. You'd >> have to explain it. >> >> That's one of this ethnic group's problems: we became different in the >> various places we went to. >> One person suggested to me a symbol with the Union flag ....well now, >> that >> won't work in Tennessee >> either. It makes the bearer seem like a Tory (in the American sense : ie >> a >> Loyalist in the American >> Revolution, descendents now in Canada). >> >> Perhaps a shamrock impaled on a thistle kind of gets the point across in >> a >> universal fashion? >> (just joking!) >> >> Linda Merle >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What is the culture list? Janet

Linda, See, good things do happen ;-) I have an artist friend in Canada who could probably do a great job with this poster idea...lol... I should copy this thread and send it to her to see if she has any interest...lol... Cliff. "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group >I think you can sell this idea to the Loyalists for a huge wall mural ><grin>! They won't have a problem deciding where the thistle goes <grin>. >Wow, I'm cheered up now. I don't even mind my newdog ran away (but came >back) and my computer went south (but now works again) or that it is a week >till St. Patricks Day when all the idiots hit the streets!! > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 9:50:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > Thank you :-) > > Now we just have to decide where the thistle hits his bare bottom ;-) > > Cliff. > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:14 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > >>I LOVE it!!! >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 8:59:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group >> >> Hmmm, or a leprachan with a surprised look sitting on a thistle ;-) >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group >> >> >>> Hi Boyd, your symbol works for you, but in Tennessee, I am not sure >>> anyone >>> would understand it. >>> We'd have to spend lots of Euros/dollars doing market research to be >>> sure >>> of course. The first >>> time I ran into the Red Hand was in a book. It makes no sense here. >>> You'd >>> have to explain it. >>> >>> That's one of this ethnic group's problems: we became different in the >>> various places we went to. >>> One person suggested to me a symbol with the Union flag ....well now, >>> that >>> won't work in Tennessee >>> either. It makes the bearer seem like a Tory (in the American sense : ie >>> a >>> Loyalist in the American >>> Revolution, descendents now in Canada). >>> >>> Perhaps a shamrock impaled on a thistle kind of gets the point across in >>> a >>> universal fashion? >>> (just joking!) >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you :-) Now we just have to decide where the thistle hits his bare bottom ;-) Cliff. "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group >I LOVE it!!! > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 8:59:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > Hmmm, or a leprachan with a surprised look sitting on a thistle ;-) > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:32 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > > >> Hi Boyd, your symbol works for you, but in Tennessee, I am not sure >> anyone >> would understand it. >> We'd have to spend lots of Euros/dollars doing market research to be sure >> of course. The first >> time I ran into the Red Hand was in a book. It makes no sense here. You'd >> have to explain it. >> >> That's one of this ethnic group's problems: we became different in the >> various places we went to. >> One person suggested to me a symbol with the Union flag ....well now, >> that >> won't work in Tennessee >> either. It makes the bearer seem like a Tory (in the American sense : ie >> a >> Loyalist in the American >> Revolution, descendents now in Canada). >> >> Perhaps a shamrock impaled on a thistle kind of gets the point across in >> a >> universal fashion? >> (just joking!) >> >> Linda Merle >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ach, then one gets into the argument about which whisky label to use... ;-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! >< We have been called the people with no name. Apparently we are also the > people with no symbol. > > > How about a whisky bottle with cork removed? > > JP > >

I thought we were a global group? What's all this American? I am English - an English rose!! Donna x Sent from my iPhone On 8 Mar 2010, at 03:30, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Ann, I agree there is nothing American about King Billy, but > there is nothing American about > a shamrock and thistle either. And I got no graphics skills so I > ain't producing nothing. The Loyalists > have great graphics skills but I guess I didn't get any of those > genes. (I got the Irish genes that > allow me to start small riots with what I think are funny comments.) > > I do like this: > http://www.mccordfamilyassn.com/RogersRngrs.jpg ...I'm assuming the > McCords give permission? > (I'll have to read 40 more messages to find out). > > So I'll retire King Billy, computer willing, and unless I get > hostile emails form the McCords ....they're > closer than the Belfast Loyalists so I'm more scared of them!! > > Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 5:48:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > > Hold on there just a minute, Linda! > > Are you saying you have to revere King Billy, the color (or the idea) > orange, or the loyalists to be part of a group that you just an hour > or so was > an AMERICAN cultural group? I don't think so. > > I don't. > > You want a graphic? Be patient. I think your idea of a shamrock and a > thistle is clever, but we ought to add in something saying North > America > (because we don't want to leave out our Canadian cousins). How about a > shamrock and a thistle on a wave? > > Ann L > > > In a message dated 3/7/2010 1:06:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: > > > > I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a > bitmap > of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. > Unfortunately > we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see > (again) > searching the Internet. > > Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is > either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? > > What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America > got to > offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to > HAVE anything visual!!!!). > > Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a > little > bitmap? > > And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster > Scots, etc, > group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network > for your > heritage?) > > Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone > number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the > little > bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. > > Linda Merle > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hmmm, or a leprachan with a surprised look sitting on a thistle ;-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] symbol for group > Hi Boyd, your symbol works for you, but in Tennessee, I am not sure anyone > would understand it. > We'd have to spend lots of Euros/dollars doing market research to be sure > of course. The first > time I ran into the Red Hand was in a book. It makes no sense here. You'd > have to explain it. > > That's one of this ethnic group's problems: we became different in the > various places we went to. > One person suggested to me a symbol with the Union flag ....well now, that > won't work in Tennessee > either. It makes the bearer seem like a Tory (in the American sense : ie a > Loyalist in the American > Revolution, descendents now in Canada). > > Perhaps a shamrock impaled on a thistle kind of gets the point across in a > universal fashion? > (just joking!) > > Linda Merle >

How about a bottle of Dewars next to a bottle of Jamesons? Now only to get it bitmapped so you could make it out. [email protected] wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:40:17 +0000 (UTC) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected].pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I like the red hand but it too is more appropriate for Ulster than America. It sometimes offends people > who think it means we're Loyalists, who are more clever than we are with graphics. > > I have also noticed that it is hard to find symbols representing the Scotch irish ....maybe we need to > invent one (or find a Loyalist who will design one for us). I definitely need a Loyalist since I don't do > well with graphics software. My clothes don't match most of the time either..... > > We have been called the people with no name. Apparently we are also the people with no symbol. > > Linda Merle > > > >

Nope, not me, none of these programs. I ain't getting any either! King Billy worked once I figured out how to do it after the fourth or fifth try. Manana....... Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "W.F. Stephens" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 5:48:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! Do you have Photoshop or Corel Paint Shop or similar photo editing software? If so, you can open the bitmap file in either one and use the resize feature. I don't recall if either program can handle bitmap, but if they can't, try opening the image in the Windows or Apple image viewer and then saving it as a JPEG file. You'll then to be able to work it in either program as a JPEG image. Woody Stephens -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:56 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap > of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately > we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) > searching the Internet. > > Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is > either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? > > What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got to > offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to > HAVE anything visual!!!!). > > Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little > bitmap? > > And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, etc, > group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for your > heritage?) > > Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone > number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little > bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. > > Linda Merle > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I like the red hand but it too is more appropriate for Ulster than America. It sometimes offends people who think it means we're Loyalists, who are more clever than we are with graphics. I have also noticed that it is hard to find symbols representing the Scotch irish ....maybe we need to invent one (or find a Loyalist who will design one for us). I definitely need a Loyalist since I don't do well with graphics software. My clothes don't match most of the time either..... We have been called the people with no name. Apparently we are also the people with no symbol. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Hughes" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 4:41:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! How about the red hand? > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/7/2010 11:56:28 AM > Subject: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > > I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) searching the Internet. > > Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? > > What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to HAVE anything visual!!!!). > > Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little bitmap? > > And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for your heritage?) > > Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. > > Linda Merle > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ann, I agree there is nothing American about King Billy, but there is nothing American about a shamrock and thistle either. And I got no graphics skills so I ain't producing nothing. The Loyalists have great graphics skills but I guess I didn't get any of those genes. (I got the Irish genes that allow me to start small riots with what I think are funny comments.) I do like this: http://www.mccordfamilyassn.com/RogersRngrs.jpg ...I'm assuming the McCords give permission? (I'll have to read 40 more messages to find out). So I'll retire King Billy, computer willing, and unless I get hostile emails form the McCords ....they're closer than the Belfast Loyalists so I'm more scared of them!! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 5:48:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! Hold on there just a minute, Linda! Are you saying you have to revere King Billy, the color (or the idea) orange, or the loyalists to be part of a group that you just an hour or so was an AMERICAN cultural group? I don't think so. I don't. You want a graphic? Be patient. I think your idea of a shamrock and a thistle is clever, but we ought to add in something saying North America (because we don't want to leave out our Canadian cousins). How about a shamrock and a thistle on a wave? Ann L In a message dated 3/7/2010 1:06:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) searching the Internet. Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to HAVE anything visual!!!!). Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little bitmap? And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for your heritage?) Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. Linda Merle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Colin, I don't know how correct some of that information is. I think it may be in the immigration courses at www.genealogical.com/university.html but apparently by the 1770s there were more Africans here than anyone else. Few lived long enough to produce offspring so they are a minority today. I wouldn't even bet that the SI were second largest... From the AOH (not AOL!) research, the role of the SI in the St Patrick's Day Parade, in Boston, was that the day before, as Irish Catholics under Lafayette prepared to hold Mass, the SI, under Washington prepared to riot. Washington realized he was about to lose the war over a very old argument. So he proclaimed that everyone was Irish that day (etc, etc) and promised them if they drove the British out of Boston they'd have a big parade and lots of beer. I don't know if the SI were interested in the parade but I am sure the beer did interest them, so this particular riot was averted and Washington made a note to add freedom of religion to the Bill of Rights. I have also heard that the Irish had the parade in Boston much earlier. So while there's a lot we can take credit for, I have never heard it said St Patricks Day parades is one of them <grin>. Why would Presbyterians want to parade around on the birthday of a saint anyway? Oh...you've reminded me of Porteguese festivals in Boston where everyone partied and drank homemade wine....now those were fun.... I think that's when they blessed the fishing fleet, also not part of Scotch Irish tradition. (Eh, AOH = Ancient Order of the Hibernians, aka the Irish Orange Order. Both are fraternal organizations. ) However apparently many were of the opinion it was an Ulster Scot rebellion and certainly there was a lot of support for it amongst the Ulster Scots (Scotch Irish or whatever it is they called themselves then...). Glad this day is over.... New dog ran away (but came back after spent afternoon looking for him), computer went on the fritz . After a lot of grief got it working again....and fit in a baroque concert at Mt. Saint Peters! (Stabit Mater due to the season). Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin McCallum" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 6:55:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [S-I] Scotch Irish. Listers, It is my understanding the Scotch-Irish were the largest ethnic group in the American War of Independence, and they were responsible for the starting the St Patrick Day 17th March, Padres, in the Colonies, before the American War of \independence as charity fund raising exercise, Regards, Colin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

< We have been called the people with no name. Apparently we are also the people with no symbol. > How about a whisky bottle with cork removed? JP ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 22:40 Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! >I like the red hand but it too is more appropriate for Ulster than America. >It sometimes offends people > who think it means we're Loyalists, who are more clever than we are with > graphics. > > I have also noticed that it is hard to find symbols representing the > Scotch irish ....maybe we need to > invent one (or find a Loyalist who will design one for us). I definitely > need a Loyalist since I don't do > well with graphics software. My clothes don't match most of the time > either..... > > We have been called the people with no name. Apparently we are also the > people with no symbol. > > Linda Merle > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Hughes" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 4:41:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > > How about the red hand? > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: 3/7/2010 11:56:28 AM >> Subject: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! >> >> I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap > of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately > we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) > searching the Internet. >> >> Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is > either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? >> >> What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got > to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to > HAVE anything visual!!!!). >> >> Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little > bitmap? >> >> And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, > etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for > your heritage?) >> >> Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone > number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little > bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Listers, It is my understanding the Scotch-Irish were the largest ethnic group in the American War of Independence, and they were responsible for the starting the St Patrick Day 17th March, Padres, in the Colonies, before the American War of \independence as charity fund raising exercise, Regards, Colin.

I'll drink to that! Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Otterson Sent: 07 March 2010 21:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! How about a bottle of Bushmill's? Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > Hi Penny, Cute, but we're not Scottish <grin>. Once you landed in Ulster > you were living in a new political climate and you changed. There doesn't > seem to have been nearly as many kilts (after the Plantation at least) or > haggis -- which you can see immediately was an improvement. On the > negative side the natives were unfriendly but on the other hand, they had > very good looking daughters. The fake highland stuff wouldn't do anyway -- > only highlanders wore them, before they were made unlawful. Our lowland > Scots ancestors would > as soon appear in public in a kilt as Andrew Jackson would have been > caught walking around in Washington > DC in a loincloth with tomahawk! Lowland Scots were as fond of highlanders > as Andy was of Indians, too. > However now it is big money to sell you some itchy wool so who cares about > the truth. > > The climate in east Ulster at least was pretty good, so we grew a lot of > different kinds of grains. Even today in Belfast the bakeries are full of > all kinds of breads you will find no where else in Ireland -- or even > perhaps Scotland. In fact the parent of the famous southern breakfast is > the Ulster breakfast. The north coast is not called the Chlorestorol Coast > for no good reason. If your mother, like mine, though her ancesters had > left Ireland 250 years before, was still enjoying a lot of different > breads -- that's a sign that she was an Ulster girl. > > So if you go to Ulster this summer, diet before hand so you will have more > room for the food. > > I found an image, maybe a little too Ulstery -- but this is a challenge > for us Americans to come up with something not Scottish and not even > Ulster. If only I had a photie of my grandfather's favorite goat. I'd even > use this bitmap of tartan that I inherited, but I know the ancestor > brought it from Scotland: > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merle/Family/Tartan.htm > > So it won't do either.... But King Billy will do for now because if our > ancestors were Protestants in Ireland, they were on his side. If your > immediate ancestors tell other stories, it's a sign they were either > brainwashed recently or your family assimilated after 1600. Which is an > important clue. Many Irish did, as the DNA shows. If your DNA is Irish, be > happy. What was Scotland once but an Irish colony? Your ancestors > christianized the > heathenish Scotti (ex Irish, themselves) and the Picts of Alba. Feel > proud! > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Penny Bonnar" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 3:25:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! > > Maybe something here? > > http://www.scottish-crafts.co.uk/clipart.htm > > > On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:56 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap >> of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. >> Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, >> I see (again) searching the Internet. >> >> Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is >> either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? >> >> What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got >> to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to >> HAVE anything visual!!!!). >> >> Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little >> bitmap? >> >> And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, >> etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network >> for your heritage?) >> >> Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone >> number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little >> bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steady on, Linda!!! Check out this site and you'll see more than a yard or two of itchy wool!! http://www.eastdonegalulsterscots.com/culture.html Now, it may be a mite bogus but rest assured, the wearin of the kilt is much adhered to by modern Ulster Scots here in Ulster, both young and old. I attended a meeting at the Monreagh Heritage Centre only recently and a representative sample of youngsters attended to meet the Culture Secretary of Northern Ireland (yes, in Donegal!), all proudly wearing their kilts. Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ The fake highland stuff wouldn't do anyway -- only highlanders wore them, before they were made unlawful. Our lowland Scots ancestors would as soon appear in public in a kilt as Andrew Jackson would have been caught walking around in Washington DC in a loincloth with tomahawk! Lowland Scots were as fond of highlanders as Andy was of Indians, too. However now it is big money to sell you some itchy wool so who cares about the truth. SNIP

Hi Penny, Cute, but we're not Scottish <grin>. Once you landed in Ulster you were living in a new political climate and you changed. There doesn't seem to have been nearly as many kilts (after the Plantation at least) or haggis -- which you can see immediately was an improvement. On the negative side the natives were unfriendly but on the other hand, they had very good looking daughters. The fake highland stuff wouldn't do anyway -- only highlanders wore them, before they were made unlawful. Our lowland Scots ancestors would as soon appear in public in a kilt as Andrew Jackson would have been caught walking around in Washington DC in a loincloth with tomahawk! Lowland Scots were as fond of highlanders as Andy was of Indians, too. However now it is big money to sell you some itchy wool so who cares about the truth. The climate in east Ulster at least was pretty good, so we grew a lot of different kinds of grains. Even today in Belfast the bakeries are full of all kinds of breads you will find no where else in Ireland -- or even perhaps Scotland. In fact the parent of the famous southern breakfast is the Ulster breakfast. The north coast is not called the Chlorestorol Coast for no good reason. If your mother, like mine, though her ancesters had left Ireland 250 years before, was still enjoying a lot of different breads -- that's a sign that she was an Ulster girl. So if you go to Ulster this summer, diet before hand so you will have more room for the food. I found an image, maybe a little too Ulstery -- but this is a challenge for us Americans to come up with something not Scottish and not even Ulster. If only I had a photie of my grandfather's favorite goat. I'd even use this bitmap of tartan that I inherited, but I know the ancestor brought it from Scotland: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merle/Family/Tartan.htm So it won't do either.... But King Billy will do for now because if our ancestors were Protestants in Ireland, they were on his side. If your immediate ancestors tell other stories, it's a sign they were either brainwashed recently or your family assimilated after 1600. Which is an important clue. Many Irish did, as the DNA shows. If your DNA is Irish, be happy. What was Scotland once but an Irish colony? Your ancestors christianized the heathenish Scotti (ex Irish, themselves) and the Picts of Alba. Feel proud! Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Bonnar" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 3:25:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! Maybe something here? http://www.scottish-crafts.co.uk/clipart.htm On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:56 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) searching the Internet. > > Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? > > What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to HAVE anything visual!!!!). > > Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little bitmap? > > And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for your heritage?) > > Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. > > Linda Merle > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a bitmap of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't work. Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on the planet, I see (again) searching the Internet. Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work (that is either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has America got to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently too Scotch Irish to HAVE anything visual!!!!). Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a little bitmap? And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster Scots, etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer to network for your heritage?) Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my phone number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know how the little bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. Linda Merle

Hi Janet, you go to the Main screen http://www.genealogywise.com/ (or click on Main) and Register. Then you click on Groups and search for Scotch-Irish and join it. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 2:23:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] New Group at Genealogy wise I found the link and am interested - but how does a person sign up? Janet Mc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert, sure, got one you can upload?? Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 1:40:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] New Group at Genealogy wise Hi Linda How about an image of a four-leaf clover and a thistle with their stems crossed regards robert barclay ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] New Group at Genealogy wise > Hi The name is of course Scotch-Irish. > > And here's a link! > > http://www.genealogywise.com/group/scotchirish > > Okay, David, what's next?? > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David C Abernathy" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 11:35:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] New Group at Genealogy wise > > Linda, > It also would help if you provide the Group Name, as I find that there are > "All Groups (3,496)" > "scotch-irish (143)" > > And/or a link to the group. > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [S-I] New Group at Genealogy wise > > Hi folks, I started a group for us at www.genealogywise.com. It's free. > You > get yourself a free account and then join the group. I should check to see > if it is actually there <grin>! > > I need a little bitmap image that is appropriate....any ideas? > > Linda Merle > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message