I have no complaints either, I'd be lost without you all. and I love getting a bunch of info I can print from one email... But If it makes everyone happier, I will try to remember to change the subject line. Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "David C Abernathy" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:05 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] Please complain to the Admin > I have no complaints, you are doing a great job kiss kiss smile evilgrin > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [S-I] Please complain to the Admin > > Hi folks, > > Please send complaints to the admin, not the list. It reduces the junk > posts > and brawls. > > Also, when complaining about people not deleting stuff from digests, > please > change the subject line to something appropriate instead of leaving the > digest name. More people will actually read your post. > > You can generally reach the admin of rootsweb lists by sending an email to > [email protected] . > > If anyone thinks I do a particularly poor job, I agree with you, so how > about taking over??!! I would like to free up some time. > > Anyone who continues to complain on the list will be immediately deputized > to run the list. > > Linda Merle (Stuck forever as List Admin) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Jim. I do have two Beattie lines! One in Scotland and one known as #5 --- John Beattie who left Ireland in 1729. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Sherry" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 7:07:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Please complain to the Admin Hi Linda Ah girl, you're all Beattie for sure! (good to see!) I look forward to reading every comment you make. Keep up the fine work! all the best Jim Beattie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Linda Ah girl, you're all Beattie for sure! (good to see!) I look forward to reading every comment you make. Keep up the fine work! all the best Jim Beattie

Hi folks, I have just received the free newsletter from ISOGG .So today I learned a little more on genetic genealogy -- free! It is an organization -- free! that lives here: http://www.isogg.org/ including a section for newbies to learn the basics. You can sign up for the newsletter. The current one is here: http://www.isogg.org/newsletter/2010/mar.html Includes a success story involving Martins. Linda Merle

Hi folks, if you actually do wish to do family history in this period then you must learn something about it. You are going to screw up bigtime (to be blunt -- you're Scotch Irish so you can deal with this <grin>) if you don't. You will make a bad assumption and start researching people who never lived. Or a world no one ever lived in. Two good books are Bailyn's "The Peopling of America", which won a Pulitzer Prize. Another is Eckert's series of narratives on the 1700s. They are comprised of contemporary material , woven into intense drama. For example "Wilderness Empire" which describes the French and Indian War in vast detail. It describes the rivers they used to travel on (no roads) and the Indians and the cases of diarhea the soldiers got in upstate New York. Vast detail. Gripping too. Some schools use them as textbooks. Just go to Amazon and search for Eckert. You can pick up a copy for 47 cents or borrow one from the library. Or for those who email me about how their library has nothing, dude! Talk to your librarian about Interlibrary loan. Don't ask me, I don't know how to do it (I am not your librarian <grin>). You'll be learning valuable research skills too ...how to find books. And libraries <grin>. Things we must do to do family history. These books I mentioned are not fiction. They are fact and the authors documented where they got the info. So if a letter by one of YOUR ancestors is mentioned and you wonder if there are more, there's a footnote that will tell you where the author got the info. We should be doing that when we write family history too. You can really win big here if you know what a bibliography is and how to use it to find more information. Eckert's books are fascinating. You'll learn and have a great time as well. His books are hard to put down. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:45:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration In regard to the Scotch-Irish coming over in early 1719-1730 I have records on my family coming into Delaware and then going to Maryland and across into PA early CO.s like Lancaster and then Chester.......my early Fleming Line had sons born in Prince George Co.MD and daughters born in PA.....It doesnt seem like was too far to go and come back.........MAYBE using ferries across the river and creeks and they built Forts and communities and farms near water sources........just an idea. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee K. Ramsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:56 PM Subject: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration > For those pursuing the 1718-1719 Scotch-Irish emigration to Boston or > Philadelphia from Ireland, I have one ship which has two documented > voyages > from Londonderry, Ireland. > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Boston from Londonderry with 100 passengers 2 > Sept > 1718, (Capt. James Law). > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Philadelphia from Londonderry with passengers and > servants 15 Oct 1719, (Capt. Linn). > > > > The large contingency aboard the Maccallum to Boston was led by James > Woodside, Presbyterian minister. These settlers went directly to Casco > Bay > (Maine). > > > > Sources thus far are not able to address the problematic migration problem > from New England to Pennsylvania. Hopefully, someone on this list will be > able to make a breakthrough with a positive I.D. showing their ancestor's > move to the Penn Colony. > > > > I am not familiar with any overland migrations during the period in > question, but there was "The Boston Post Road" which ran from New York to > Boston starting in 1673. This was a two week trip by horseback and had 3 > routes and was constantly used for mail. > > > > There is a lot of local history publications for Pennshylvania counties > and > townships on Google Books. > > > > Lee Ramsey > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

THANK YOU, Linda, for the names of those 2 books--Bailyn & Eckert! Off to track 'em down. Ruth Sent from my iPod On 2010-04-01, at 2:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi folks, if you actually do wish to do family history in this > period then you must learn something about it. You are going to > screw up bigtime (to be blunt -- you're Scotch Irish so you can deal > with this <grin>) if you don't. You will make a bad assumption and > start researching people who never lived. Or a world no one ever > lived in. > > Two good books are Bailyn's "The Peopling of America", which won a > Pulitzer Prize. Another is Eckert's series of narratives on the > 1700s. They are comprised of contemporary material , woven into > intense drama. For example "Wilderness Empire" which describes the > French and Indian War in vast detail. It describes the rivers they > used to travel on (no roads) and the Indians and the cases of > diarhea the soldiers got in upstate New York. Vast detail. Gripping > too. Some schools use them as textbooks. Just go to Amazon and > search for Eckert. You can pick up a copy for 47 cents or borrow one > from the library. Or for those who email me about how their library > has nothing, dude! Talk to your librarian about Interlibrary loan. > Don't ask me, I don't know how to do it (I am not your librarian > <grin>). You'll be learning valuable research skills too ...how to > find books. And libraries <grin>. Things we must do to do family > history. > > These books I mentioned are not fiction. They are fact and the > authors documented where they got the info. So if a letter by one of > YOUR ancestors is mentioned and you wonder if there are more, > there's a footnote that will tell you where the author got the info. > We should be doing that when we write family history too. You can > really win big here > if you know what a bibliography is and how to use it to find more > information. > > Eckert's books are fascinating. You'll learn and have a great time > as well. His books are hard to put down. > > Linda Merle > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:45:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration > > In regard to the Scotch-Irish coming over in early 1719-1730 I have > records on my family coming into Delaware and then going to Maryland > and > across into PA early CO.s like Lancaster and then Chester.......my > early > Fleming Line had sons born in Prince George Co.MD and daughters born > in > PA.....It doesnt seem like was too far to go and come > back.........MAYBE > using ferries across the river and creeks and they built Forts and > communities and farms near water sources........just an idea. > Sarah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee K. Ramsey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:56 PM > Subject: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration > > >> For those pursuing the 1718-1719 Scotch-Irish emigration to Boston or >> Philadelphia from Ireland, I have one ship which has two documented >> voyages >> from Londonderry, Ireland. >> >> >> >> The MACCALLUM arrived at Boston from Londonderry with 100 >> passengers 2 >> Sept >> 1718, (Capt. James Law). >> >> >> >> The MACCALLUM arrived at Philadelphia from Londonderry with >> passengers and >> servants 15 Oct 1719, (Capt. Linn). >> >> >> >> The large contingency aboard the Maccallum to Boston was led by James >> Woodside, Presbyterian minister. These settlers went directly to >> Casco >> Bay >> (Maine). >> >> >> >> Sources thus far are not able to address the problematic migration >> problem >> from New England to Pennsylvania. Hopefully, someone on this list >> will be >> able to make a breakthrough with a positive I.D. showing their >> ancestor's >> move to the Penn Colony. >> >> >> >> I am not familiar with any overland migrations during the period in >> question, but there was "The Boston Post Road" which ran from New >> York to >> Boston starting in 1673. This was a two week trip by horseback and >> had 3 >> routes and was constantly used for mail. >> >> >> >> There is a lot of local history publications for Pennshylvania >> counties >> and >> townships on Google Books. >> >> >> >> Lee Ramsey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

In regard to the Scotch-Irish coming over in early 1719-1730 I have records on my family coming into Delaware and then going to Maryland and across into PA early CO.s like Lancaster and then Chester.......my early Fleming Line had sons born in Prince George Co.MD and daughters born in PA.....It doesnt seem like was too far to go and come back.........MAYBE using ferries across the river and creeks and they built Forts and communities and farms near water sources........just an idea. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee K. Ramsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:56 PM Subject: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration > For those pursuing the 1718-1719 Scotch-Irish emigration to Boston or > Philadelphia from Ireland, I have one ship which has two documented > voyages > from Londonderry, Ireland. > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Boston from Londonderry with 100 passengers 2 > Sept > 1718, (Capt. James Law). > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Philadelphia from Londonderry with passengers and > servants 15 Oct 1719, (Capt. Linn). > > > > The large contingency aboard the Maccallum to Boston was led by James > Woodside, Presbyterian minister. These settlers went directly to Casco > Bay > (Maine). > > > > Sources thus far are not able to address the problematic migration problem > from New England to Pennsylvania. Hopefully, someone on this list will be > able to make a breakthrough with a positive I.D. showing their ancestor's > move to the Penn Colony. > > > > I am not familiar with any overland migrations during the period in > question, but there was "The Boston Post Road" which ran from New York to > Boston starting in 1673. This was a two week trip by horseback and had 3 > routes and was constantly used for mail. > > > > There is a lot of local history publications for Pennshylvania counties > and > townships on Google Books. > > > > Lee Ramsey > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ellie, we learned about the Y chromosome in high school. Maybe talk to son if you forgot. He would only have the Y chromosome of his McCleary ancestors if he descends on his MALE LINE from them. That means his surname is McCleary, his father's surname was McCleary, his grandfather's was, etc. This is the male line. Or try a google. Knowing how to google is a basic skill for doing genealogy these days. Teaching about Y chromosomes is not the purpose of this list but you can find plenty of instructions out thar on the Internet -- and far better than what we'd attempt here to do. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellie Dowling" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:54:22 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from NH toPA in 1719 Hi Linda, I guess what I was asking is, my son Seth has the McCleary genes through his grandmother's, father Jordan McCleary... Does it get too muddled that far away from the McCleary surname??? I looked at the site and am more confused than before...LOL, I am artistic, not scientific, so my brains goes...Duh..... sorry, Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:10 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from NH toPA in 1719 > Hi Ellie, it has to be a male relative with the right surname because he > would have a Y chromosome inherited from the male ancestor with the > surname. See www.familytreedna.com for more information. > > Good luck with the husband. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellie Dowling" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:55:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from > NH toPA in 1719 > > Hi Linda, Oh I would love to go the DNA route!!!! And maybe someday I will > be able to ... It is on my wish list ... Why does it have to be a male > relative with the surname??? Why can't it just be a male with the McCleary > genes in him??? Keeping in mind that my husband is Scotch-Irish, maybe it > doesn't always fit, but talking my husband into the desire to pay for DNA > testing will be a real adventure..... LOL, Thanks Ellie > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:14 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from > NH toPA in 1719 > >> Hi Ellen, >> >> The burnt courthouse scenario is an all too familiar one. It is the >> subject of endless lectures, articles, and even books. You need to stop >> using it as an excuse (like the rest of us <grin>) and get past it using >> good genealogical methodologies. Such an event can be overcome. You just >> need to know how. >> >> The first thing to do is google. In this case for things like burnt >> courthouse genealogy. I did that and came up with several things >> including >> http://inman.surnameweb.org/documents/looking.htm . >> >> The bottom line with burnt courthouses is that sooner or later some >> government comes along and wants to collect taxes. Unless they can figure >> out who is responsible for paying the taxes, many are likely to avoid it. >> So reconstruction of land records occurs rather fast. Assisting are >> families who want to inherit or continue with their high place in the >> social order as well as those whose enemies see the chaos as a chance to >> dispossess those families of their property. >> >> There was NOT a law in place (that I am aware of) requiring that property >> sales (deeds) be registered at the courthouse. I am not a North Carolina >> expert; I may be wrong, but I doubt it seriously. You COULD register the >> deed but you didn't have to. Eventually due to the difficulties of >> collecting taxes, etc, the states applied much pressure to get the court >> house used. But that's later on. The way you proved you owned property is >> you produced the deed. The real deed. The deed was copied into the >> courthouse records -- maybe. The real deed is the one your ancestor had. >> To prove he owned it after the fire, he showed up at the courthouse and >> had it recorded again. >> >> If he didn't have the deed (house burnt too, goat ate it, Uncle Bob used >> it for TP (toilet paper)), then you got some witnesses who swore an oath >> and testified. There are a zillion of these kinda cases all over the USA >> in court records. If the courthouse burnt up, it started again. >> >> There are also grants -- made by the colony. NC grants are a huge huge >> topic. I once encountered them in a project in Tennessee....They're not >> kept at the courthouse. Maybe it had some copies but those are state >> records and I do know they survive. Ditto for Virginia, PA, Maryland and >> all the places to the north where you should be looking. There are all >> kinds of records that are not kept at the county courthouse you can use >> and lots of articles and books that explain what they are and how to find >> them. >> >> However this is a heck of a lot of work. If you want fast results, then >> it's simple. Catch a male relative with the surname and test his Y >> chromosome. He has to have the Y chromosome of the early family, so make >> sure he descends on the male line. Don't have one, you say? Hogwash. Do >> some genealogy and FIND one! That's what we do <grin>. Genealogy! It >> costs >> $300 unless you hit on a sale. Test at www.familytreedna.com (largest >> database). You can join free as many projects as you want. Maybe the >> Ireland one. When the results arrive, the admins can usually figure out >> what quad of Ireland they're from. If Ulster, you are shuffled off to the >> Ulster Heritage project. Then you look for matches in that project, in NC >> projects, in family projects, etc. >> >> When you find matches, you can then look for the paper trail from A to B. >> Eliminates a lot of vacuuming up of records in places your ancestors >> never >> were. >> >> You can spend 20 years vacuuming records and copying them at 25 cents or >> more per page and not get anywhere, so you hire someone for the minimum >> amount -- which now is about $300 and they may or may not find something >> (toss the dice). Or you can do DNA testing NOW. You spend $300. You save >> money photocopying every piece of paper in the original colonies, and >> eventually, maybe in six weeks, maybe in a year, you will have a match >> and >> can start figuring out how they got from A to B. Even if you never get a >> match in the USA, you know your ancestor didn't match those guys. He's >> not >> a McCleary. But you'll know what he was and can work with those people to >> figure out who the Indian in the wood pile was. THAT you'll never learn >> any other way. >> >> Because the truth is even if all the courthouses hadn't burnt down, there >> could have never been a record made of where your ancestors came from, so >> sifting through records, will not solve this problem. Most colonial >> immigrations are NOT documented. They were not documented in 1719 when >> they hopped off the boat nor any other time unless by chance in oral or >> county histories, obits of pioneers, etc. >> >> So forget the courthouse and go track down a cousin. In six weeks, when >> your DNA results come in, you could know which family groups you match >> and >> which you don't, assuming others with the surname have tested. Check for >> a >> family project at www.familytreedna.com and find out. >> >> DNA is the only way to get results for certain, and it's fast and cheap >> too. If you have colonial migrants, then you need to do this. You can >> read >> through several courses on migration genealogy at >> www.genealogical.com/university.html and eventually you'll figure out >> there is no sure way to find their origins doing genealogy. There is >> using >> DNA -- so bag a cousin and then read the courses while the DNA is being >> tested. It'll give you something to do <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have no complaints, you are doing a great job kiss kiss smile evilgrin Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [S-I] Please complain to the Admin Hi folks, Please send complaints to the admin, not the list. It reduces the junk posts and brawls. Also, when complaining about people not deleting stuff from digests, please change the subject line to something appropriate instead of leaving the digest name. More people will actually read your post. You can generally reach the admin of rootsweb lists by sending an email to [email protected] . If anyone thinks I do a particularly poor job, I agree with you, so how about taking over??!! I would like to free up some time. Anyone who continues to complain on the list will be immediately deputized to run the list. Linda Merle (Stuck forever as List Admin) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You mention the surname TRIPP and the Revolutionary War. My gr gr grandmother's name was TRIPP and her father fought in the Rev War and came to Canada. I would suspect they were related. I must admit I haven't done much research on this name but I do know they are United Empire Loyalists who settled in Prince Edward Co, Ontario, Canada. Where can I view your information on Tripp family please? Susan > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:38:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [S-I] McClary/McCleary of NIR > > I have some McClary information in my database, I do NOT descend for a > McClary but one was the first wife of my ancestor. I gathered this > information during my research. > > Cherryl Ball > Frisco, TX > > The McCutcheon Cutcheon Family Records > Author: Florence McCutcheon McKee > Call Number: R929.2 M133 > Genealogy of the McCutcheon family records, including allied families of > McClary, Tripp, Brown and Critchett. > Bibliographic Information: McKee, Florence M. The McCutcheon (Cutcheon) > Family Records. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Commonwealth Printing Company, 1931. > > Page 51 Page 131 > > THE MCCLARY AND TRIPP FAMILY > > The first McClary, as far as we have records, to come to America was Andrew > McClary, who came on the ship leaving Port Rush, Ulster County, Ireland, > Aug. 7, 1726. With him were the families of James Harvey and William > Maxwell. They reached Boston Oct. 8, 1726. > > According to Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, who published a small booklet > of this McClary family in 1896, they spent some time at Haverhill, NH On > Oct. 16, 1735, Andrew McClary of Nottingham purchased land in Nottingham > from William Partridge of Boston, grandson of William Partridge of Newberry. > (Reference Deeds of Nottingham, Vol. 17, Pg. 309 and Vol. 22, Pg. 208.) > > Joseph A. McClary of Bound Brook, N.J., who has been collecting data about > the McClary family, states that there were three distinct lines of McClarys > who came from Ulster County, Ireland, all co-related as brothers or cousins. > Charles and Thomas McClary came to this country in 1720, Andrew came in > 1726, landing in Boston and settling in MA and NH, and their progeny have > settled all over the United States. All the McClarys were Scotch > Presbyterians, all Covenanters, but the name has been garbled to McClerry, > MAcCleeray, McCleary and Mecleery--and some have dropped the Mc. > > Nottingham was but a short distance from Londonderry where the Londonderry > Colony had settled, coming also from Ireland and originally from Scotland. > > The family at this time, as far as we can learn, consisted of Andrew > McClary, his wife Agnas (surname unknown to us) and his son John, born in > 1719 or 1720, who was seven years old. Here the family remained for eleven > years; at least the deed at Epsom and other historical records show that the > McClarys moved to Epsom, NH, in 1738. > > Page 132 > > First Christian Church, Allenstown, NH, erected 1815, restored?? Buntin > Chapter, D. A. R. Church organized July, 1807. Used?? hall. 1815-1876. Mr. > Richard Tripp's name heads list of mem?? bought land in Allenstown, 1757. > Homecoming services held?? on the second Sunday in August. Richard Tripp's > Revolutionary Marker. > > Page 133 > > Epsom, a post town in Merrimack County, with a latitude of 43??, 13 north, > lies twelve miles east of Concord. It is bounded on the north by Pittsfield, > south by Allenstown, east by Deerfield and Northwood, and on the west by > Chichester and Pembroke, and is named for a market town of Surrey, England. > Epsom was granted to Theodore Atkinson and others. (See History of Epsom.) > The first meeting was called May 18, 1727, by Theodore Atkinson, Joshua > Frost and Captain Samuel Weeks. No meeting was held to elect officers until > 1743. Previously and until 1750, the business of the town was conducted at > New Castle and Portsmouth. Among the first settlers were Charles McCoy, > William Blazo, a Frenchman; Andrew McCoy and Samuel Blake. Then there were > but four yokes of oxen in the town, one belonging to Andrew McClary. > > The story of the capture by the Indians of Mrs. Isabelle McCoy is very > interesting. They burned her house, took her to Canada and sold her to a > French family. They treated her well and she was comfortable with the French > family, but after the Revolution she returned to her family in Epsom. > > According to the grant "from King George, by Grace of God, Defender of the > Faith," they had to agree to build twenty dwelling houses and settle a > family in each within four years, and then break up three acres and plant or > sow the same in that length of time. A house was to be built for the worship > of God within six years. One hundred acres were to be set aside for a > parsonage, one hundred for the first minister, and the same amount for the > use of a school. Should trouble arise from the Indians they were to be > allowed another four years. They were to pay for this grant the annual rent > of one pound of good merchantable Page 51 > Page 52 > > hemp on the first day of December yearly forever, if demanded, "reserving > unto us, our heirs and successors all mast trees growing on said land > according to an act of Parliament." Yearly, the first Wednesday in May, they > were to meet in NH Page 135 until the settlement of the town, "to choose and > elect constable, selectmen and other town officers, etc. Witness seal of our > Province, John Wentworth, Lieut. Governor in Chief, 1727." > > For corroboration of these statements see "Granite Monthly," a NH magazine > devoted to history, biography and state progress, formerly published at > Concord (48 ME Street), now at Newport, NH; article written by Gilbert H. > Knowles; "Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," compiled for the two hundredth > celebration of the settling of Epsom, by Loella Marden Bunker, 1927; > "Topographical and Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," by Jonathan Curtis, A. > M., Pittsfield, 1885; a sketch covering four generations of the McClary > family by Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, deceased. (His daughter, Lucy S. > McClary, is living at Windsor, VT [1930]); and "NH Genealogies," by Stearns, > Vol. 2, Pg. 524--and other histories all give about the same data. > > In 1738 Andrew McClary moved to Epsom from Nottingham and built a frame > house there on a rising knoll of land, upon which now stands the old McClary > homestead, added to and built in main by his son John, afterwards "Colonel" > John. No house is more richly endowed with historical associations than this > McClary house. There have been few changes and the immense fireplaces and > brick ovens are still in usable condition. The old rope-woven beds with high > posts with canopy tops are still in use, and one room is pointed out to > visitors as "the room which Daniel Webster and Franklin Pierce used to > occupy when they came here." There is a secret stairway leading from a back > room, originally used for a means of escape from the Indians. Catherine > Berry now owns the home. > > It was in this house that the first town meetings were held, and here was > held the meeting to organize the Society of the Cincinnati after the > Revolutionary War. It is located on the road to Deerfield. This land was the > parade ground, or muster field (later > Page 136 > called "Lawrence's Muster Field") where Major Andrew McClary was plowing > when the Revolutionary War called him. When the word came, April 20, 1775, > of the Battle of Lexington, he left his plow in the furrow and in > twenty-four hours was at Medford, seventy miles away, having armed himself > and dashed off by way of Deerfield, accompanied by a few as daring spirits. > > By one o'clock the men from Nottingham, Deerfield, Chichester, Epsom and > Northwood made up a company of eighty men who chose Andrew McClary, Jr. > (Major) as their leader, and by traveling all night reached Medford early > the next morning. At Medford the troops were divided into two regiments, the > larger of which Stark was chosen captain and McClary major. It was in this > regiment that two of the ancestors served along with Major McClary: Richard > Tripp, who married Major McClary's sister, Ann, and Frederick McCutcheon. > General Dearborn, who was in this battle as captain of a company, writes > this account of the death of Major Andrew McClary. > > "It was after the retreat before the batteries on Copps Hill and the heavy > cannonade was being kept up. He and I were together and he was elated at the > bravery and spirit the men have shown. He saw the British troops were in > motion and said he would go and reconnoiter them to see whether they were > coming out over the neck, and ordered me to march my company down the road > towards Charlestown. > > "We were then at Tuft's house near Ploughed Hill. After satisfying himself > that the British did not intend leaving the strong position on the Heights, > he returned towards me and when within twelve rods of me, a stray bullet > from the Frigate laying near where the center of Craigie Bridge now is, > passed through his body. He leaped two or three feet into the air and fell > dead on his face. I had him carried to Medford where he was interred with > due respect, and today his name is on the bronze tablets at the small park > near Bunker Hill monument." > Page 137 > At the dedication of Bunker Hill, Daniel Webster paid tribute Page 52 Page > 53 to Major Andrew McClary in these words, "Thus fell Major McClary, the > highest officer killed at the battle, the handsomest man in the army, and > the favorite of the NH troops." > > Andrew McClary, Sr., held official position as selectman in Northwood in > 1733, the first time any but original proprietors were allowed a voice in > public matters; and he held the same office in Epsom from the year 1742 to > the year 1756. This family was not large. At no time were more than four > eligible to office. Yet, from 1743 to 1804, a period of sixty-one years, > they filled the office of selectmen of Epsom for thirty-one years, and from > 1796 to 1819 they served terms (10) in the NH Senate. > > >From all sources that I have been able to consult the following is the > genealogy of this McClary family: 1 > Ref.: NH Hist. Society, Concord, NH > I Gen. > Andrew McCLARY, the immigrant, was born in 1680, Ireland, of Scotch parents. > His family was originally from Dumfries, Scotland. With his wife, Agnas, as > proven by deed, vol. 22, pg. 208, he came to America in 1726 from Port Rush, > Ulster County, Ireland. He moved to Epsom in 1738 and died there between > September, 1764, and October 15, 1765. The following deeds prove the > residence and heirs of Andrew McClary of Nottingham and Epsom: > 1741. From Jedediah Weeks, Greenland, land in Epsom. Vol. 25, pg. 314. > 1741. Oct. 9, to Wm. Brown of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. 26, > pg. 366. > 1742. May 19, to Andrew Simpson of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. > 31, pg. 269. > 1742. July 1, from Joseph Simpson of New Castle, land in Epsom. Vol. 27, > pg. 334. > Page 138 > 1743. Aug. 24, to Jeremiah Bennet of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. > 27, pg. 7. > 1747. Feb. 27, A. McClary of Nottingham from Samuel Wallace of Greenland, > land in Epsom. Vol. 35, pg. 313. > 1751. July 4, A. McClary of Epsom to Richard Jenness of Nottingham. Vol. > 39, pg. 120. > 1752. Dec. 1, from Shem Brown of Boston, MA., land in Nottingham. Vol. > 41, pg. 61. > 1757. John McGaffey of Brentwood in 1754 of Buck St., Pembroke, 1757, was > of Epsom 1759, bought land of his father-in-law, A. McClary. > 1760. April 2, to John McClary (son), land and share of saw mill and > grist mill at Epsom. Vol. 59. > 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary of Epsom, grandfather to Michael McClary and > Andrew, land in Jenness town. Vol. 59, pg. 545. > 1760. April 15, to Andrew McClary (son), same amount as John's. Vol. 59, > pg. 545. > 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary (grandson) to Michael and Andrew McClary, > land in Jenness Town Warner. Vol. 59. > 1763. July 26, from Richard Tripp, land in Epsom. Vol. 82, pg. 30. > 1765. Oct. 5, McClary right in estate of Andrew McClary, late of Epsom. > Vol. 82, pg. 120. Son of deceased. > > Children of Andrew McClary, Sr., and Agnas, his wife: > > 2. John McClary, born 1719, in Great Britain (probably in Scotland or > Ireland). Died Sept., 1800, Epsom, NH > 3. Andrew McClary, Jr. > 4. Margaret McClary. Married Dr. Samuel Wallace. > Page 139 > 5. Jane McClary. Married John McGaffey. > 6. Ann McClary (also called Nanny and Agnas in deeds). Married Richard > Tripp. (See Tripp Family.) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Linda, I guess what I was asking is, my son Seth has the McCleary genes through his grandmother's, father Jordan McCleary... Does it get too muddled that far away from the McCleary surname??? I looked at the site and am more confused than before...LOL, I am artistic, not scientific, so my brains goes...Duh..... sorry, Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:10 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from NH toPA in 1719 > Hi Ellie, it has to be a male relative with the right surname because he > would have a Y chromosome inherited from the male ancestor with the > surname. See www.familytreedna.com for more information. > > Good luck with the husband. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellie Dowling" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:55:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from > NH toPA in 1719 > > Hi Linda, Oh I would love to go the DNA route!!!! And maybe someday I will > be able to ... It is on my wish list ... Why does it have to be a male > relative with the surname??? Why can't it just be a male with the McCleary > genes in him??? Keeping in mind that my husband is Scotch-Irish, maybe it > doesn't always fit, but talking my husband into the desire to pay for DNA > testing will be a real adventure..... LOL, Thanks Ellie > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:14 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from > NH toPA in 1719 > >> Hi Ellen, >> >> The burnt courthouse scenario is an all too familiar one. It is the >> subject of endless lectures, articles, and even books. You need to stop >> using it as an excuse (like the rest of us <grin>) and get past it using >> good genealogical methodologies. Such an event can be overcome. You just >> need to know how. >> >> The first thing to do is google. In this case for things like burnt >> courthouse genealogy. I did that and came up with several things >> including >> http://inman.surnameweb.org/documents/looking.htm . >> >> The bottom line with burnt courthouses is that sooner or later some >> government comes along and wants to collect taxes. Unless they can figure >> out who is responsible for paying the taxes, many are likely to avoid it. >> So reconstruction of land records occurs rather fast. Assisting are >> families who want to inherit or continue with their high place in the >> social order as well as those whose enemies see the chaos as a chance to >> dispossess those families of their property. >> >> There was NOT a law in place (that I am aware of) requiring that property >> sales (deeds) be registered at the courthouse. I am not a North Carolina >> expert; I may be wrong, but I doubt it seriously. You COULD register the >> deed but you didn't have to. Eventually due to the difficulties of >> collecting taxes, etc, the states applied much pressure to get the court >> house used. But that's later on. The way you proved you owned property is >> you produced the deed. The real deed. The deed was copied into the >> courthouse records -- maybe. The real deed is the one your ancestor had. >> To prove he owned it after the fire, he showed up at the courthouse and >> had it recorded again. >> >> If he didn't have the deed (house burnt too, goat ate it, Uncle Bob used >> it for TP (toilet paper)), then you got some witnesses who swore an oath >> and testified. There are a zillion of these kinda cases all over the USA >> in court records. If the courthouse burnt up, it started again. >> >> There are also grants -- made by the colony. NC grants are a huge huge >> topic. I once encountered them in a project in Tennessee....They're not >> kept at the courthouse. Maybe it had some copies but those are state >> records and I do know they survive. Ditto for Virginia, PA, Maryland and >> all the places to the north where you should be looking. There are all >> kinds of records that are not kept at the county courthouse you can use >> and lots of articles and books that explain what they are and how to find >> them. >> >> However this is a heck of a lot of work. If you want fast results, then >> it's simple. Catch a male relative with the surname and test his Y >> chromosome. He has to have the Y chromosome of the early family, so make >> sure he descends on the male line. Don't have one, you say? Hogwash. Do >> some genealogy and FIND one! That's what we do <grin>. Genealogy! It >> costs >> $300 unless you hit on a sale. Test at www.familytreedna.com (largest >> database). You can join free as many projects as you want. Maybe the >> Ireland one. When the results arrive, the admins can usually figure out >> what quad of Ireland they're from. If Ulster, you are shuffled off to the >> Ulster Heritage project. Then you look for matches in that project, in NC >> projects, in family projects, etc. >> >> When you find matches, you can then look for the paper trail from A to B. >> Eliminates a lot of vacuuming up of records in places your ancestors >> never >> were. >> >> You can spend 20 years vacuuming records and copying them at 25 cents or >> more per page and not get anywhere, so you hire someone for the minimum >> amount -- which now is about $300 and they may or may not find something >> (toss the dice). Or you can do DNA testing NOW. You spend $300. You save >> money photocopying every piece of paper in the original colonies, and >> eventually, maybe in six weeks, maybe in a year, you will have a match >> and >> can start figuring out how they got from A to B. Even if you never get a >> match in the USA, you know your ancestor didn't match those guys. He's >> not >> a McCleary. But you'll know what he was and can work with those people to >> figure out who the Indian in the wood pile was. THAT you'll never learn >> any other way. >> >> Because the truth is even if all the courthouses hadn't burnt down, there >> could have never been a record made of where your ancestors came from, so >> sifting through records, will not solve this problem. Most colonial >> immigrations are NOT documented. They were not documented in 1719 when >> they hopped off the boat nor any other time unless by chance in oral or >> county histories, obits of pioneers, etc. >> >> So forget the courthouse and go track down a cousin. In six weeks, when >> your DNA results come in, you could know which family groups you match >> and >> which you don't, assuming others with the surname have tested. Check for >> a >> family project at www.familytreedna.com and find out. >> >> DNA is the only way to get results for certain, and it's fast and cheap >> too. If you have colonial migrants, then you need to do this. You can >> read >> through several courses on migration genealogy at >> www.genealogical.com/university.html and eventually you'll figure out >> there is no sure way to find their origins doing genealogy. There is >> using >> DNA -- so bag a cousin and then read the courses while the DNA is being >> tested. It'll give you something to do <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee K. Ramsey" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:56 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [S-I] 1718-1719 S-I Emigration > For those pursuing the 1718-1719 Scotch-Irish emigration to Boston or > Philadelphia from Ireland, I have one ship which has two documented > voyages > from Londonderry, Ireland. > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Boston from Londonderry with 100 passengers 2 > Sept > 1718, (Capt. James Law). > > > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Philadelphia from Londonderry with passengers and > servants 15 Oct 1719, (Capt. Linn). > > > > The large contingency aboard the Maccallum to Boston was led by James > Woodside, Presbyterian minister. These settlers went directly to Casco > Bay > (Maine). > > > > Sources thus far are not able to address the problematic migration problem > from New England to Pennsylvania. Hopefully, someone on this list will be > able to make a breakthrough with a positive I.D. showing their ancestor's > move to the Penn Colony. > > > > I am not familiar with any overland migrations during the period in > question, but there was "The Boston Post Road" which ran from New York to > Boston starting in 1673. This was a two week trip by horseback and had 3 > routes and was constantly used for mail. > > > > There is a lot of local history publications for Pennshylvania counties > and > townships on Google Books. > > > > Lee Ramsey > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much, I have been looking around in sites that have listings for Ulster Ireland and found some MCCleary's in the 1630 Muster rolls of county Donnagall. I am just going to follow all the MCcleary, trails and see if any lead me to Jefferson. Thanks for the assistance... It's amazing, everyone on this list is so nice and helpful.. I am so grateful.... Ellie -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:38 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-I] McClary/McCleary of NIR > I have some McClary information in my database, I do NOT descend for a > McClary but one was the first wife of my ancestor. I gathered this > information during my research. > > Cherryl Ball > Frisco, TX > > The McCutcheon Cutcheon Family Records > Author: Florence McCutcheon McKee > Call Number: R929.2 M133 > Genealogy of the McCutcheon family records, including allied families of > McClary, Tripp, Brown and Critchett. > Bibliographic Information: McKee, Florence M. The McCutcheon (Cutcheon) > Family Records. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Commonwealth Printing Company, > 1931. > > Page 51 Page 131 > > THE MCCLARY AND TRIPP FAMILY > > The first McClary, as far as we have records, to come to America was > Andrew > McClary, who came on the ship leaving Port Rush, Ulster County, Ireland, > Aug. 7, 1726. With him were the families of James Harvey and William > Maxwell. They reached Boston Oct. 8, 1726. > > According to Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, who published a small > booklet > of this McClary family in 1896, they spent some time at Haverhill, NH On > Oct. 16, 1735, Andrew McClary of Nottingham purchased land in Nottingham > from William Partridge of Boston, grandson of William Partridge of > Newberry. > (Reference Deeds of Nottingham, Vol. 17, Pg. 309 and Vol. 22, Pg. 208.) > > Joseph A. McClary of Bound Brook, N.J., who has been collecting data about > the McClary family, states that there were three distinct lines of > McClarys > who came from Ulster County, Ireland, all co-related as brothers or > cousins. > Charles and Thomas McClary came to this country in 1720, Andrew came in > 1726, landing in Boston and settling in MA and NH, and their progeny have > settled all over the United States. All the McClarys were Scotch > Presbyterians, all Covenanters, but the name has been garbled to McClerry, > MAcCleeray, McCleary and Mecleery--and some have dropped the Mc. > > Nottingham was but a short distance from Londonderry where the Londonderry > Colony had settled, coming also from Ireland and originally from Scotland. > > The family at this time, as far as we can learn, consisted of Andrew > McClary, his wife Agnas (surname unknown to us) and his son John, born in > 1719 or 1720, who was seven years old. Here the family remained for eleven > years; at least the deed at Epsom and other historical records show that > the > McClarys moved to Epsom, NH, in 1738. > > Page 132 > > First Christian Church, Allenstown, NH, erected 1815, restored?? Buntin > Chapter, D. A. R. Church organized July, 1807. Used?? hall. 1815-1876. Mr. > Richard Tripp's name heads list of mem?? bought land in Allenstown, 1757. > Homecoming services held?? on the second Sunday in August. Richard Tripp's > Revolutionary Marker. > > Page 133 > > Epsom, a post town in Merrimack County, with a latitude of 43??, 13 north, > lies twelve miles east of Concord. It is bounded on the north by > Pittsfield, > south by Allenstown, east by Deerfield and Northwood, and on the west by > Chichester and Pembroke, and is named for a market town of Surrey, > England. > Epsom was granted to Theodore Atkinson and others. (See History of Epsom.) > The first meeting was called May 18, 1727, by Theodore Atkinson, Joshua > Frost and Captain Samuel Weeks. No meeting was held to elect officers > until > 1743. Previously and until 1750, the business of the town was conducted at > New Castle and Portsmouth. Among the first settlers were Charles McCoy, > William Blazo, a Frenchman; Andrew McCoy and Samuel Blake. Then there were > but four yokes of oxen in the town, one belonging to Andrew McClary. > > The story of the capture by the Indians of Mrs. Isabelle McCoy is very > interesting. They burned her house, took her to Canada and sold her to a > French family. They treated her well and she was comfortable with the > French > family, but after the Revolution she returned to her family in Epsom. > > According to the grant "from King George, by Grace of God, Defender of the > Faith," they had to agree to build twenty dwelling houses and settle a > family in each within four years, and then break up three acres and plant > or > sow the same in that length of time. A house was to be built for the > worship > of God within six years. One hundred acres were to be set aside for a > parsonage, one hundred for the first minister, and the same amount for the > use of a school. Should trouble arise from the Indians they were to be > allowed another four years. They were to pay for this grant the annual > rent > of one pound of good merchantable Page 51 > Page 52 > > hemp on the first day of December yearly forever, if demanded, "reserving > unto us, our heirs and successors all mast trees growing on said land > according to an act of Parliament." Yearly, the first Wednesday in May, > they > were to meet in NH Page 135 until the settlement of the town, "to choose > and > elect constable, selectmen and other town officers, etc. Witness seal of > our > Province, John Wentworth, Lieut. Governor in Chief, 1727." > > For corroboration of these statements see "Granite Monthly," a NH magazine > devoted to history, biography and state progress, formerly published at > Concord (48 ME Street), now at Newport, NH; article written by Gilbert H. > Knowles; "Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," compiled for the two hundredth > celebration of the settling of Epsom, by Loella Marden Bunker, 1927; > "Topographical and Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," by Jonathan Curtis, A. > M., Pittsfield, 1885; a sketch covering four generations of the McClary > family by Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, deceased. (His daughter, Lucy > S. > McClary, is living at Windsor, VT [1930]); and "NH Genealogies," by > Stearns, > Vol. 2, Pg. 524--and other histories all give about the same data. > > In 1738 Andrew McClary moved to Epsom from Nottingham and built a frame > house there on a rising knoll of land, upon which now stands the old > McClary > homestead, added to and built in main by his son John, afterwards > "Colonel" > John. No house is more richly endowed with historical associations than > this > McClary house. There have been few changes and the immense fireplaces and > brick ovens are still in usable condition. The old rope-woven beds with > high > posts with canopy tops are still in use, and one room is pointed out to > visitors as "the room which Daniel Webster and Franklin Pierce used to > occupy when they came here." There is a secret stairway leading from a > back > room, originally used for a means of escape from the Indians. Catherine > Berry now owns the home. > > It was in this house that the first town meetings were held, and here was > held the meeting to organize the Society of the Cincinnati after the > Revolutionary War. It is located on the road to Deerfield. This land was > the > parade ground, or muster field (later > Page 136 > called "Lawrence's Muster Field") where Major Andrew McClary was plowing > when the Revolutionary War called him. When the word came, April 20, 1775, > of the Battle of Lexington, he left his plow in the furrow and in > twenty-four hours was at Medford, seventy miles away, having armed himself > and dashed off by way of Deerfield, accompanied by a few as daring > spirits. > > By one o'clock the men from Nottingham, Deerfield, Chichester, Epsom and > Northwood made up a company of eighty men who chose Andrew McClary, Jr. > (Major) as their leader, and by traveling all night reached Medford early > the next morning. At Medford the troops were divided into two regiments, > the > larger of which Stark was chosen captain and McClary major. It was in this > regiment that two of the ancestors served along with Major McClary: > Richard > Tripp, who married Major McClary's sister, Ann, and Frederick McCutcheon. > General Dearborn, who was in this battle as captain of a company, writes > this account of the death of Major Andrew McClary. > > "It was after the retreat before the batteries on Copps Hill and the heavy > cannonade was being kept up. He and I were together and he was elated at > the > bravery and spirit the men have shown. He saw the British troops were in > motion and said he would go and reconnoiter them to see whether they were > coming out over the neck, and ordered me to march my company down the road > towards Charlestown. > > "We were then at Tuft's house near Ploughed Hill. After satisfying himself > that the British did not intend leaving the strong position on the > Heights, > he returned towards me and when within twelve rods of me, a stray bullet > from the Frigate laying near where the center of Craigie Bridge now is, > passed through his body. He leaped two or three feet into the air and fell > dead on his face. I had him carried to Medford where he was interred with > due respect, and today his name is on the bronze tablets at the small park > near Bunker Hill monument." > Page 137 > At the dedication of Bunker Hill, Daniel Webster paid tribute Page 52 Page > 53 to Major Andrew McClary in these words, "Thus fell Major McClary, the > highest officer killed at the battle, the handsomest man in the army, and > the favorite of the NH troops." > > Andrew McClary, Sr., held official position as selectman in Northwood in > 1733, the first time any but original proprietors were allowed a voice in > public matters; and he held the same office in Epsom from the year 1742 to > the year 1756. This family was not large. At no time were more than four > eligible to office. Yet, from 1743 to 1804, a period of sixty-one years, > they filled the office of selectmen of Epsom for thirty-one years, and > from > 1796 to 1819 they served terms (10) in the NH Senate. > >>From all sources that I have been able to consult the following is the > genealogy of this McClary family: 1 > Ref.: NH Hist. Society, Concord, NH > I Gen. > Andrew McCLARY, the immigrant, was born in 1680, Ireland, of Scotch > parents. > His family was originally from Dumfries, Scotland. With his wife, Agnas, > as > proven by deed, vol. 22, pg. 208, he came to America in 1726 from Port > Rush, > Ulster County, Ireland. He moved to Epsom in 1738 and died there between > September, 1764, and October 15, 1765. The following deeds prove the > residence and heirs of Andrew McClary of Nottingham and Epsom: > 1741. From Jedediah Weeks, Greenland, land in Epsom. Vol. 25, pg. 314. > 1741. Oct. 9, to Wm. Brown of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. 26, > pg. 366. > 1742. May 19, to Andrew Simpson of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. > 31, pg. 269. > 1742. July 1, from Joseph Simpson of New Castle, land in Epsom. Vol. 27, > pg. 334. > Page 138 > 1743. Aug. 24, to Jeremiah Bennet of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. > Vol. > 27, pg. 7. > 1747. Feb. 27, A. McClary of Nottingham from Samuel Wallace of > Greenland, > land in Epsom. Vol. 35, pg. 313. > 1751. July 4, A. McClary of Epsom to Richard Jenness of Nottingham. Vol. > 39, pg. 120. > 1752. Dec. 1, from Shem Brown of Boston, MA., land in Nottingham. Vol. > 41, pg. 61. > 1757. John McGaffey of Brentwood in 1754 of Buck St., Pembroke, 1757, > was > of Epsom 1759, bought land of his father-in-law, A. McClary. > 1760. April 2, to John McClary (son), land and share of saw mill and > grist mill at Epsom. Vol. 59. > 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary of Epsom, grandfather to Michael McClary and > Andrew, land in Jenness town. Vol. 59, pg. 545. > 1760. April 15, to Andrew McClary (son), same amount as John's. Vol. 59, > pg. 545. > 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary (grandson) to Michael and Andrew McClary, > land in Jenness Town Warner. Vol. 59. > 1763. July 26, from Richard Tripp, land in Epsom. Vol. 82, pg. 30. > 1765. Oct. 5, McClary right in estate of Andrew McClary, late of Epsom. > Vol. 82, pg. 120. Son of deceased. > > Children of Andrew McClary, Sr., and Agnas, his wife: > > 2. John McClary, born 1719, in Great Britain (probably in Scotland or > Ireland). Died Sept., 1800, Epsom, NH > 3. Andrew McClary, Jr. > 4. Margaret McClary. Married Dr. Samuel Wallace. > Page 139 > 5. Jane McClary. Married John McGaffey. > 6. Ann McClary (also called Nanny and Agnas in deeds). Married Richard > Tripp. (See Tripp Family.) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In mentioning the MACCALLUM, Lee, you have in fact named one of *the* five famous ships who arrived in the Boston harbor with nearly 700 Ulster Presbyterians, along with their ministers; this began a further emigration of 2,600 more in the following two years and up to another 250,000 in the next half century. These were those who would become known as the Scotch-Irish. The MACCALLUM was well used! You will see the names of all five ships (which, given their passengers' impact on a nation, should in my estimation share at least some fame with the Mayflower) at <http://www.1718migration.org.uk/s_theirArrival.asp>. For those researching their Scotch-Irish families who arrived in 1718, or in the following years, will find this whole website great reading. It's a site hard to leave alone once begun. Thanks for your info about that Boston Post Road. One does wonder about details like what roads there would have been by the early 18th c—so you've provide one answer. What about to the Philly area? Did people travel inland or was it more by sea? Records often refer to the Casco Bay people (at least the men) walking out of Maine in the spring. Supposedly there were well-established Indian trails that would make that possible to get them to Haverhill and from there to the site of Nutfield. This is the point at which it was said, in that quotation that began this thread, that many of the Casco group decided not to stay any longer in the north and headed to PA. As Linda puts it, she doesn't understand why they didn't all didn't head to PA! :-) Ruth On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Lee K. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote: > > For those pursuing the 1718-1719 Scotch-Irish emigration to Boston or > Philadelphia from Ireland, I have one ship which has two documented voyages > from Londonderry, Ireland. > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Boston from Londonderry with 100 passengers 2 Sept > 1718, (Capt. James Law). > > The MACCALLUM arrived at Philadelphia from Londonderry with passengers and > servants 15 Oct 1719, (Capt. Linn). > > The large contingency aboard the Maccallum to Boston was led by James > Woodside, Presbyterian minister. These settlers went directly to Casco Bay > (Maine). > > Sources thus far are not able to address the problematic migration problem > from New England to Pennsylvania.  Hopefully, someone on this list will be > able to make a breakthrough with a positive I.D. showing their ancestor's > move to the Penn Colony. > > I am not familiar with any overland migrations during the period in > question, but there was "The Boston Post Road" which ran from New York to > Boston starting in 1673.  This was a two week trip by horseback and had 3 > routes and was constantly used for mail. > > There is a lot of local history publications for Pennshylvania counties and > townships on Google Books. > > Lee Ramsey

This may be the parish of Drummully in the barony of Darty, county of Monaghan with the majority of this parish situated in County Fermanagh. Lee Ramsey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Oddie Brown Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [S-I] Thomas BRADFORD of Monaghan and Philadelphia 1847 I have a mention in an 1847 will of a "Thomas BRADFORD of Drumrule in the Co Monaghan & now of Philadelphia". I suspect that since there is no townland called "Drumrule" that it may be Drumroosk, Parish of Tullycorbet, Co. Monaghan - although other townlands may be near enough in pronounciation to qualify. The will is posted on my web site at: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/1847_will_AC_Bradford.htm Does this ring bells for anyone? Suggestions? Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some McClary information in my database, I do NOT descend for a McClary but one was the first wife of my ancestor. I gathered this information during my research. Cherryl Ball Frisco, TX The McCutcheon Cutcheon Family Records Author: Florence McCutcheon McKee Call Number: R929.2 M133 Genealogy of the McCutcheon family records, including allied families of McClary, Tripp, Brown and Critchett. Bibliographic Information: McKee, Florence M. The McCutcheon (Cutcheon) Family Records. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Commonwealth Printing Company, 1931. Page 51 Page 131 THE MCCLARY AND TRIPP FAMILY The first McClary, as far as we have records, to come to America was Andrew McClary, who came on the ship leaving Port Rush, Ulster County, Ireland, Aug. 7, 1726. With him were the families of James Harvey and William Maxwell. They reached Boston Oct. 8, 1726. According to Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, who published a small booklet of this McClary family in 1896, they spent some time at Haverhill, NH On Oct. 16, 1735, Andrew McClary of Nottingham purchased land in Nottingham from William Partridge of Boston, grandson of William Partridge of Newberry. (Reference Deeds of Nottingham, Vol. 17, Pg. 309 and Vol. 22, Pg. 208.) Joseph A. McClary of Bound Brook, N.J., who has been collecting data about the McClary family, states that there were three distinct lines of McClarys who came from Ulster County, Ireland, all co-related as brothers or cousins. Charles and Thomas McClary came to this country in 1720, Andrew came in 1726, landing in Boston and settling in MA and NH, and their progeny have settled all over the United States. All the McClarys were Scotch Presbyterians, all Covenanters, but the name has been garbled to McClerry, MAcCleeray, McCleary and Mecleery--and some have dropped the Mc. Nottingham was but a short distance from Londonderry where the Londonderry Colony had settled, coming also from Ireland and originally from Scotland. The family at this time, as far as we can learn, consisted of Andrew McClary, his wife Agnas (surname unknown to us) and his son John, born in 1719 or 1720, who was seven years old. Here the family remained for eleven years; at least the deed at Epsom and other historical records show that the McClarys moved to Epsom, NH, in 1738. Page 132 First Christian Church, Allenstown, NH, erected 1815, restored?? Buntin Chapter, D. A. R. Church organized July, 1807. Used?? hall. 1815-1876. Mr. Richard Tripp's name heads list of mem?? bought land in Allenstown, 1757. Homecoming services held?? on the second Sunday in August. Richard Tripp's Revolutionary Marker. Page 133 Epsom, a post town in Merrimack County, with a latitude of 43??, 13 north, lies twelve miles east of Concord. It is bounded on the north by Pittsfield, south by Allenstown, east by Deerfield and Northwood, and on the west by Chichester and Pembroke, and is named for a market town of Surrey, England. Epsom was granted to Theodore Atkinson and others. (See History of Epsom.) The first meeting was called May 18, 1727, by Theodore Atkinson, Joshua Frost and Captain Samuel Weeks. No meeting was held to elect officers until 1743. Previously and until 1750, the business of the town was conducted at New Castle and Portsmouth. Among the first settlers were Charles McCoy, William Blazo, a Frenchman; Andrew McCoy and Samuel Blake. Then there were but four yokes of oxen in the town, one belonging to Andrew McClary. The story of the capture by the Indians of Mrs. Isabelle McCoy is very interesting. They burned her house, took her to Canada and sold her to a French family. They treated her well and she was comfortable with the French family, but after the Revolution she returned to her family in Epsom. According to the grant "from King George, by Grace of God, Defender of the Faith," they had to agree to build twenty dwelling houses and settle a family in each within four years, and then break up three acres and plant or sow the same in that length of time. A house was to be built for the worship of God within six years. One hundred acres were to be set aside for a parsonage, one hundred for the first minister, and the same amount for the use of a school. Should trouble arise from the Indians they were to be allowed another four years. They were to pay for this grant the annual rent of one pound of good merchantable Page 51 Page 52 hemp on the first day of December yearly forever, if demanded, "reserving unto us, our heirs and successors all mast trees growing on said land according to an act of Parliament." Yearly, the first Wednesday in May, they were to meet in NH Page 135 until the settlement of the town, "to choose and elect constable, selectmen and other town officers, etc. Witness seal of our Province, John Wentworth, Lieut. Governor in Chief, 1727." For corroboration of these statements see "Granite Monthly," a NH magazine devoted to history, biography and state progress, formerly published at Concord (48 ME Street), now at Newport, NH; article written by Gilbert H. Knowles; "Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," compiled for the two hundredth celebration of the settling of Epsom, by Loella Marden Bunker, 1927; "Topographical and Historical Sketch of Epsom, NH," by Jonathan Curtis, A. M., Pittsfield, 1885; a sketch covering four generations of the McClary family by Horace P. McClary of Windsor, VT, deceased. (His daughter, Lucy S. McClary, is living at Windsor, VT [1930]); and "NH Genealogies," by Stearns, Vol. 2, Pg. 524--and other histories all give about the same data. In 1738 Andrew McClary moved to Epsom from Nottingham and built a frame house there on a rising knoll of land, upon which now stands the old McClary homestead, added to and built in main by his son John, afterwards "Colonel" John. No house is more richly endowed with historical associations than this McClary house. There have been few changes and the immense fireplaces and brick ovens are still in usable condition. The old rope-woven beds with high posts with canopy tops are still in use, and one room is pointed out to visitors as "the room which Daniel Webster and Franklin Pierce used to occupy when they came here." There is a secret stairway leading from a back room, originally used for a means of escape from the Indians. Catherine Berry now owns the home. It was in this house that the first town meetings were held, and here was held the meeting to organize the Society of the Cincinnati after the Revolutionary War. It is located on the road to Deerfield. This land was the parade ground, or muster field (later Page 136 called "Lawrence's Muster Field") where Major Andrew McClary was plowing when the Revolutionary War called him. When the word came, April 20, 1775, of the Battle of Lexington, he left his plow in the furrow and in twenty-four hours was at Medford, seventy miles away, having armed himself and dashed off by way of Deerfield, accompanied by a few as daring spirits. By one o'clock the men from Nottingham, Deerfield, Chichester, Epsom and Northwood made up a company of eighty men who chose Andrew McClary, Jr. (Major) as their leader, and by traveling all night reached Medford early the next morning. At Medford the troops were divided into two regiments, the larger of which Stark was chosen captain and McClary major. It was in this regiment that two of the ancestors served along with Major McClary: Richard Tripp, who married Major McClary's sister, Ann, and Frederick McCutcheon. General Dearborn, who was in this battle as captain of a company, writes this account of the death of Major Andrew McClary. "It was after the retreat before the batteries on Copps Hill and the heavy cannonade was being kept up. He and I were together and he was elated at the bravery and spirit the men have shown. He saw the British troops were in motion and said he would go and reconnoiter them to see whether they were coming out over the neck, and ordered me to march my company down the road towards Charlestown. "We were then at Tuft's house near Ploughed Hill. After satisfying himself that the British did not intend leaving the strong position on the Heights, he returned towards me and when within twelve rods of me, a stray bullet from the Frigate laying near where the center of Craigie Bridge now is, passed through his body. He leaped two or three feet into the air and fell dead on his face. I had him carried to Medford where he was interred with due respect, and today his name is on the bronze tablets at the small park near Bunker Hill monument." Page 137 At the dedication of Bunker Hill, Daniel Webster paid tribute Page 52 Page 53 to Major Andrew McClary in these words, "Thus fell Major McClary, the highest officer killed at the battle, the handsomest man in the army, and the favorite of the NH troops." Andrew McClary, Sr., held official position as selectman in Northwood in 1733, the first time any but original proprietors were allowed a voice in public matters; and he held the same office in Epsom from the year 1742 to the year 1756. This family was not large. At no time were more than four eligible to office. Yet, from 1743 to 1804, a period of sixty-one years, they filled the office of selectmen of Epsom for thirty-one years, and from 1796 to 1819 they served terms (10) in the NH Senate. >From all sources that I have been able to consult the following is the genealogy of this McClary family: 1 Ref.: NH Hist. Society, Concord, NH I Gen. Andrew McCLARY, the immigrant, was born in 1680, Ireland, of Scotch parents. His family was originally from Dumfries, Scotland. With his wife, Agnas, as proven by deed, vol. 22, pg. 208, he came to America in 1726 from Port Rush, Ulster County, Ireland. He moved to Epsom in 1738 and died there between September, 1764, and October 15, 1765. The following deeds prove the residence and heirs of Andrew McClary of Nottingham and Epsom: 1741. From Jedediah Weeks, Greenland, land in Epsom. Vol. 25, pg. 314. 1741. Oct. 9, to Wm. Brown of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. 26, pg. 366. 1742. May 19, to Andrew Simpson of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. 31, pg. 269. 1742. July 1, from Joseph Simpson of New Castle, land in Epsom. Vol. 27, pg. 334. Page 138 1743. Aug. 24, to Jeremiah Bennet of Nottingham, land in Nottingham. Vol. 27, pg. 7. 1747. Feb. 27, A. McClary of Nottingham from Samuel Wallace of Greenland, land in Epsom. Vol. 35, pg. 313. 1751. July 4, A. McClary of Epsom to Richard Jenness of Nottingham. Vol. 39, pg. 120. 1752. Dec. 1, from Shem Brown of Boston, MA., land in Nottingham. Vol. 41, pg. 61. 1757. John McGaffey of Brentwood in 1754 of Buck St., Pembroke, 1757, was of Epsom 1759, bought land of his father-in-law, A. McClary. 1760. April 2, to John McClary (son), land and share of saw mill and grist mill at Epsom. Vol. 59. 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary of Epsom, grandfather to Michael McClary and Andrew, land in Jenness town. Vol. 59, pg. 545. 1760. April 15, to Andrew McClary (son), same amount as John's. Vol. 59, pg. 545. 1760. May 9, Andrew McClary (grandson) to Michael and Andrew McClary, land in Jenness Town Warner. Vol. 59. 1763. July 26, from Richard Tripp, land in Epsom. Vol. 82, pg. 30. 1765. Oct. 5, McClary right in estate of Andrew McClary, late of Epsom. Vol. 82, pg. 120. Son of deceased. Children of Andrew McClary, Sr., and Agnas, his wife: 2. John McClary, born 1719, in Great Britain (probably in Scotland or Ireland). Died Sept., 1800, Epsom, NH 3. Andrew McClary, Jr. 4. Margaret McClary. Married Dr. Samuel Wallace. Page 139 5. Jane McClary. Married John McGaffey. 6. Ann McClary (also called Nanny and Agnas in deeds). Married Richard Tripp. (See Tripp Family.)

[email protected] wrote: > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from > NH toPA in 1719 ([email protected]) > 2. 1718 Bucks Co to Northampton Co., PA 1728 (Diane Graham) > 3. Re: SCOTCH-IRISH Digest, Vol 5, Issue 93 (Ann Heinz) > 4. Re: Bethlehem vs Allen Township ([email protected]) > 5. Re: Bethlehem vs Allen Township ([email protected]) > 6. Re: Bethlehem vs Allen Township ([email protected]) > 7. Please complain to the Admin ([email protected]) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration > from NH toPA in 1719 >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: > <[email protected]pa.mail.comcast.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Hi Ellie, it has to be a male relative with the right surname because he would have a Y chromosome inherited from the male ancestor with the surname. See www.familytreedna.com for more information. > >Good luck with the husband. > >Linda Merle > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ellie Dowling" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:55:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from NH toPA in 1719 > >Hi Linda, Oh I would love to go the DNA route!!!! And maybe someday I will >be able to ... It is on my wish list ... Why does it have to be a male >relative with the surname??? Why can't it just be a male with the McCleary >genes in him??? Keeping in mind that my husband is Scotch-Irish, maybe it >doesn't always fit, but talking my husband into the desire to pay for DNA >testing will be a real adventure..... LOL, Thanks Ellie > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:14 AM >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from >NH toPA in 1719 > >> Hi Ellen, >> >> The burnt courthouse scenario is an all too familiar one. It is the >> subject of endless lectures, articles, and even books. You need to stop >> using it as an excuse (like the rest of us <grin>) and get past it using >> good genealogical methodologies. Such an event can be overcome. You just >> need to know how. >> >> The first thing to do is google. In this case for things like burnt >> courthouse genealogy. I did that and came up with several things including >> http://inman.surnameweb.org/documents/looking.htm . >> >> The bottom line with burnt courthouses is that sooner or later some >> government comes along and wants to collect taxes. Unless they can figure >> out who is responsible for paying the taxes, many are likely to avoid it. >> So reconstruction of land records occurs rather fast. Assisting are >> families who want to inherit or continue with their high place in the >> social order as well as those whose enemies see the chaos as a chance to >> dispossess those families of their property. >> >> There was NOT a law in place (that I am aware of) requiring that property >> sales (deeds) be registered at the courthouse. I am not a North Carolina >> expert; I may be wrong, but I doubt it seriously. You COULD register the >> deed but you didn't have to. Eventually due to the difficulties of >> collecting taxes, etc, the states applied much pressure to get the court >> house used. But that's later on. The way you proved you owned property is >> you produced the deed. The real deed. The deed was copied into the >> courthouse records -- maybe. The real deed is the one your ancestor had. >> To prove he owned it after the fire, he showed up at the courthouse and >> had it recorded again. >> >> If he didn't have the deed (house burnt too, goat ate it, Uncle Bob used >> it for TP (toilet paper)), then you got some witnesses who swore an oath >> and testified. There are a zillion of these kinda cases all over the USA >> in court records. If the courthouse burnt up, it started again. >> >> There are also grants -- made by the colony. NC grants are a huge huge >> topic. I once encountered them in a project in Tennessee....They're not >> kept at the courthouse. Maybe it had some copies but those are state >> records and I do know they survive. Ditto for Virginia, PA, Maryland and >> all the places to the north where you should be looking. There are all >> kinds of records that are not kept at the county courthouse you can use >> and lots of articles and books that explain what they are and how to find >> them. >> >> However this is a heck of a lot of work. If you want fast results, then >> it's simple. Catch a male relative with the surname and test his Y >> chromosome. He has to have the Y chromosome of the early family, so make >> sure he descends on the male line. Don't have one, you say? Hogwash. Do >> some genealogy and FIND one! That's what we do <grin>. Genealogy! It costs >> $300 unless you hit on a sale. Test at www.familytreedna.com (largest >> database). You can join free as many projects as you want. Maybe the >> Ireland one. When the results arrive, the admins can usually figure out >> what quad of Ireland they're from. If Ulster, you are shuffled off to the >> Ulster Heritage project. Then you look for matches in that project, in NC >> projects, in family projects, etc. >> >> When you find matches, you can then look for the paper trail from A to B. >> Eliminates a lot of vacuuming up of records in places your ancestors never >> were. >> >> You can spend 20 years vacuuming records and copying them at 25 cents or >> more per page and not get anywhere, so you hire someone for the minimum >> amount -- which now is about $300 and they may or may not find something >> (toss the dice). Or you can do DNA testing NOW. You spend $300. You save >> money photocopying every piece of paper in the original colonies, and >> eventually, maybe in six weeks, maybe in a year, you will have a match and >> can start figuring out how they got from A to B. Even if you never get a >> match in the USA, you know your ancestor didn't match those guys. He's not >> a McCleary. But you'll know what he was and can work with those people to >> figure out who the Indian in the wood pile was. THAT you'll never learn >> any other way. >> >> Because the truth is even if all the courthouses hadn't burnt down, there >> could have never been a record made of where your ancestors came from, so >> sifting through records, will not solve this problem. Most colonial >> immigrations are NOT documented. They were not documented in 1719 when >> they hopped off the boat nor any other time unless by chance in oral or >> county histories, obits of pioneers, etc. >> >> So forget the courthouse and go track down a cousin. In six weeks, when >> your DNA results come in, you could know which family groups you match and >> which you don't, assuming others with the surname have tested. Check for a >> family project at www.familytreedna.com and find out. >> >> DNA is the only way to get results for certain, and it's fast and cheap >> too. If you have colonial migrants, then you need to do this. You can read >> through several courses on migration genealogy at >> www.genealogical.com/university.html and eventually you'll figure out >> there is no sure way to find their origins doing genealogy. There is using >> DNA -- so bag a cousin and then read the courses while the DNA is being >> tested. It'll give you something to do <grin>. >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:56:32 -0500 >From: Diane Graham <[email protected]> >Subject: [S-I] 1718 Bucks Co to Northampton Co., PA 1728 >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >Colin and others. (we have communicated with you before Colin) > >There have been a cluster of us working on our Boyd family, who "may" >have come out of Armagh in 1732/34" to this country. >(Thomas Boyd and his brother William plus a couple of sisters) Thomas >said in his will that he was of "Alin " township. > >It has always bothered me that Thomas's son James (my ancestor) was >said in many old DAR applications to have been born at Bethlehem Pa. >The reason that it has never felt right is because my understanding >of Bethlehem is that it was a German settlement. > >The Boyd family were supposedly Scots/Irish. > >Do you have any opinions about this? > >Diane > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:28:22 -0500 >From: "Ann Heinz" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [S-I] SCOTCH-IRISH Digest, Vol 5, Issue 93 >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Please erase previous e-mails when making replies. my digest form gets so crowded that it is almost impossible to find original responses. >Ann > > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4988 (20100331) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:05:03 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [S-I] Bethlehem vs Allen Township >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >yes. Bethlehem is a town and a township. In 1730 it was a little spit of >land and the Irish settlement was HUGE in comparison. The original Irish >settlement includes almost all of Bethlehem city and Bethlehem Township in >today's maps. The Moravians who created what we now know as Bethlehem city did >this after the S-I had sold them their lands and moved in 17755 from the >Indian uprisings. They had built a "fort" and church but little else before >1750. The S-I "built" the farm land the Moravians needed to enable their >survival. > There are two Boyd families in the Irish settlement. John the original >lived in the curve of the Lehigh River where it turns north. That is now >Allentown City but was part of Northampton county and Bethlehem. > The second is William who lived north of Bethlehem city near to East >Allen Township in the Catasauqua are of today. if you want to take Thomas at >face value it would point to him being part of Williams family in Catasauqua. > HOWEVER, you can never be specific with these "general locations". >They changed numerous times. BY his death in 1790's. "Alin Township" didn't >even exist AND wasn't part of Northampton County :) So "Bethlehem" is right >and wrong and ditto to "Alin" Township. If it was easy it wouldn't be so >much fun :) > >BTW- YOUR BOYD family is and always has been Scotch-Irish! Get rid of that >"supposedly" tag line- you know better! > >Colin Brooks >The 1718 Project > > >In a message dated 3/31/2010 10:56:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Colin and others. (we have communicated with you before Colin) > >There have been a cluster of us working on our Boyd family, who "may" >have come out of Armagh in 1732/34" to this country. >(Thomas Boyd and his brother William plus a couple of sisters) Thomas >said in his will that he was of "Alin " township. > >It has always bothered me that Thomas's son James (my ancestor) was >said in many old DAR applications to have been born at Bethlehem Pa. >The reason that it has never felt right is because my understanding >of Bethlehem is that it was a German settlement. > >The Boyd family were supposedly Scots/Irish. > >Do you have any opinions about this? > >Diane > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:17:13 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [S-I] Bethlehem vs Allen Township >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >On April 2, 1741, William Allen deeded 500 acres at the junction of the >Monocacy Creek and Lehigh River to the Moravian Church. The setting was ideal. > It had fertile soil, ample lumber, and a plentiful water supply. Continued > Moravian immigration and careful planning of the community is evidenced in >the rapid growth of the settlement. By 1761 the settlements inhabitants >erected over 50 buildings, maintained nearly 50 industries, and cleared over >2000 acres of Bethlehem-Nazareth land. Much credit for this early success >can be attributed to the communal system in which these early settlers >lived. >The disciplined, communal life of the settlers served a dual purpose. They >were able to survive and thrive in a back woods location, as well as >maintain a high standard of moral behavior by associating closely with those of >the same spiritual convictions. A regimen of worship and work sustained >early development in their new and sometimes hostile environment. The first >years, 1741-1762, were based on a communal economy where all individual labors >were directed toward the betterment of the community and support of its >growing itinerancy and missionary efforts. >You will note, as Colin said, that the Moravian community expanded by >purchase of 1,500 additional acres, presumably from earlier Scotch-Irish >settlers, by 1761. The Moravian settlement functioned as a refugee center for >settlers driven back from the frontier in 1755-57 and 1763. > > >In a message dated 3/31/2010 12:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >yes. Bethlehem is a town and a township. In 1730 it was a little spit of >land and the Irish settlement was HUGE in comparison. The original Irish >settlement includes almost all of Bethlehem city and Bethlehem Township in > >today's maps. The Moravians who created what we now know as Bethlehem city >did >this after the S-I had sold them their lands and moved in 17755 from the >Indian uprisings. They had built a "fort" and church but little else >before >1750. The S-I "built" the farm land the Moravians needed to enable their >survival. >There are two Boyd families in the Irish settlement. John the original >lived in the curve of the Lehigh River where it turns north. That is now >Allentown City but was part of Northampton county and Bethlehem. >The second is William who lived north of Bethlehem city near to East >Allen Township in the Catasauqua are of today. if you want to take Thomas >at >face value it would point to him being part of Williams family in >Catasauqua. >HOWEVER, you can never be specific with these "general locations". >They changed numerous times. BY his death in 1790's. "Alin Township" >didn't >even exist AND wasn't part of Northampton County :) So "Bethlehem" is >right >and wrong and ditto to "Alin" Township. If it was easy it wouldn't be so >much fun :) > >BTW- YOUR BOYD family is and always has been Scotch-Irish! Get rid of that > >"supposedly" tag line- you know better! > >Colin Brooks >The 1718 Project > > >In a message dated 3/31/2010 10:56:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Colin and others. (we have communicated with you before Colin) > >There have been a cluster of us working on our Boyd family, who "may" >have come out of Armagh in 1732/34" to this country. >(Thomas Boyd and his brother William plus a couple of sisters) Thomas >said in his will that he was of "Alin " township. > >It has always bothered me that Thomas's son James (my ancestor) was >said in many old DAR applications to have been born at Bethlehem Pa. >The reason that it has never felt right is because my understanding >of Bethlehem is that it was a German settlement. > >The Boyd family were supposedly Scots/Irish. > >Do you have any opinions about this? > >Diane > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:00:11 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [S-I] Bethlehem vs Allen Township >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Thanks Richard for the info (and back-up). Note the 1741 date. This is 13 >years after the first S-I are noted in Lehigh Valley circa 1728. William >Allen was the Penn proprietor who sold most of the valley. It's a weird story >because he sells the land that is already settled to the settlers :) Nice >arraignment for both parties in a way. >Colin Brooks > > >In a message dated 3/31/2010 12:17:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >On April 2, 1741, William Allen deeded 500 acres at the junction of the >Monocacy Creek and Lehigh River to the Moravian Church > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC) >From: [email protected] >Subject: [S-I] Please complain to the Admin >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: > <[email protected]a.mail.comcast.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Hi folks, > >Please send complaints to the admin, not the list. It reduces the junk posts and brawls. > >Also, when complaining about people not deleting stuff from digests, please change the subject line to something appropriate instead of leaving the digest name. More people will actually read your post. > >You can generally reach the admin of rootsweb lists by sending an email to [email protected] . > >If anyone thinks I do a particularly poor job, I agree with you, so how about taking over??!! I would like to free up some time. > >Anyone who continues to complain on the list will be immediately deputized to run the list. > >Linda Merle (Stuck forever as List Admin) > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the SCOTCH-IRISH list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >To post a message to the SCOTCH-IRISH mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of SCOTCH-IRISH Digest, Vol 5, Issue 96 >*******************************************

Yes, I have looked at that one too. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee K. Ramsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Thomas BRADFORD of Monaghan and Philadelphia 1847 > This may be the parish of Drummully in the barony of Darty, county of > Monaghan with the majority of this parish situated in County Fermanagh. > > Lee Ramsey > Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Hey Dan. Might have been me.What I meant was that Allen Township of today is not the Allen Township of 1750 or 1782. It is the closest thing to Catasauqua. Defining a specific spot in these counties is hard do to the changing geography of each political region. Thanks, Colin Brooks In a message dated 3/31/2010 7:46:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I thought I saw in our recent discussion that someone had said that Allen Township no longer existed as of 1800. Not true. Allen Township is alive and well in Northampton Co., PA. A blurb on Wikipedia claims the population of Allen Township was 2,630 at the 2000 census. For more, go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Township,_Northampton_County,_Pennsylvani a Dan Wilson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message