I grew up in NJ with its roundabouts, and have driven in England quite a few times with theirs as well. They seem to be almost nonexistent in many parts of the U.S. The traffic engineers' answer to every problem seems to be more annoying stop signs or stop lights. My observation is that roundabouts work very well in areas which do not experience a lot of heavy traffic. Those on heavily trafficked roads, in England or Jersey, are scary. If we used them more, we would be much less inconvenienced by unnecessary stop signs, and probably get better gas mileage. Safety is the first concern, of course, but keeping traffic moving should be an important consideration, too. Every stoplight just compounds the congestion. Hugh S. Fullerton Magnolia, TX On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > In a message dated 5/7/2010 3:25:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > The advice about roundabouts was very good. I had forgotten about these. > > We have them in New England, but not in Pennsylvania, where I was raised. > > Neither I nor my husband knew what they were till one day we were > barrelling > > up Route 2, exploring New England, when we saw the sign. "What's that?" > he > > asked. "I don't know," said I. Round and round we went and ended up > > heading back up the way we came. > > > > They are more confusing in Ireland since you are on the wrong side and > > going the wrong way. > > > > Why are we trying to make cellphoning while driving illegal and not > > roundabouts??? > > > > Linda Merle > > > > > > Come on folks--Roundabouts are better than intersections. > I have been traveling on business to UK for over 30 years and it is a great > place to drive--London excluded. If we are going to drive in a foreign > country don't we read up on laws and expectations just like planning for a > research trip? Sure did when I was in Spain and found out about the > emergencey > kits you are required to have in your car, three types of police etc. > > Just because we speak the same language, sort of, doesn't mean we do things > the same way. I also suggest you get a good mapbook, yes I have a > navigator and it is great but..., because it explains many of the "drive on > left > rules". Just remember like at home keep the driver in the center of the > road. > The rest follows naturally. > > Douglas Burnett > Who can't give blood in the US because he spent to much time in UK. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Forgot to mention the weather. Tonight the temp is 48 degrees. I would advise you to check the weather before you go, but bring warm clothes cause it can still be quite cold in May - we have had snow in June in Manchester so beware. A good weather site to check is www.metcheck.com Also a good site is www.bbc.co.uk Also Northern Ireland is now on British Summer Time which is +1 GMT. As far as money goes, NI uses pounds (sterling) and Ireland uses Euros. Petrol prices are outrageous compared to USA prices - a couple of weeks ago we set a record at £1.20 per liter!! This article is from 2 years ago but you will understand http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2007-04-19-world-gas_N.htm

Dear John Two small tips that may save you money or inconvenience ...... -- Ireland (Donegal and the Republic to the south) uses euros; Northern Ireland (Londonderry) uses £ sterling. Gas prices need to be compared, so you fill up where best for you. -- Cellphone calls follow the country where you are calling from, or to. A call from the Inishowen peninsula to Derry is an international call, even though only a few miles in distance! And then again, the cellphone networks will pick up your phone (and the folks you're calling) with different "cyber boundaries" that you won't find on any map or partition settlement proposal. Enjoy your travels! Dave Mitchell Cape Town ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Weber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland tobeclosed for a while > Hi John, > > My daughter, son-in-law and myself did this in 2005. Did use a cell phone > when we knew we might be for the night and called places we had checked > evening before and some we waited until we arrived in area. Never had a > problem but did make use of the cell phone so I would advise taking one > that > can be used overseas or buy one after you are there. I took my car charger > with me and that is how we kept phone charged. No problems with renting > cars, but age maybe a factor. I was 75 at the time and was renting the > first car from here so it would be at airport and knew I was told I could > not drive but placed my son-in-law as driver. So check this out. > > Shirley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to > beclosed for a while > > >>I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, >>but >> then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but >> will >> not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. >> General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, >> Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this >> before >> getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. >> >> We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations >> yet. >> I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing >> everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. >> Last >> time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth >> hostels. >> >> John Polk >> Maryland USA >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 >> Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be >> closed >> for a while >> >> >>> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by >>> preparations >>> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >>> Northern Ireland. >>> >>> What to do? >>> >>> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is >>> they >>> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >>> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >>> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >>> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >>> awkward searching them from afar. >>> >>> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >>> to >>> see and do. >>> >>> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >>> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >>> your >>> time! >>> >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected], [email protected], >>> [email protected], [email protected], >>> [email protected], [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >>> while >>> >>> >>>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >>> >>> Is mise le meas, >>> Gobnait >>> >>> Cast a cold eye >>> On life, on death. >>> Horseman, pass by! >>> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >>> >>> www.johnaalogan.com >>> www.theorangepiguk.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding money, I just kept two 'piles', one in each currency. You don't need a lot of cash. Plastic works and unless you are in a rural area, there are ATMs. The advice about roundabouts was very good. I had forgotten about these. We have them in New England, but not in Pennsylvania, where I was raised. Neither I nor my husband knew what they were till one day we were barrelling up Route 2, exploring New England, when we saw the sign. "What's that?" he asked. "I don't know," said I. Round and round we went and ended up heading back up the way we came. They are more confusing in Ireland since you are on the wrong side and going the wrong way. Why are we trying to make cellphoning while driving illegal and not roundabouts??? Linda Merle

Hi John, I live in Manchester, England and we spent a week in Dublin this past October. We also went to Northern Ireland as my ancestors are from County Tyrone and our neighbours are from County Monahan. We had a great time and the countryside is gorgeous. The only caviat is to beware the new ring road around Dublin!! The Irish have come up with an ingenious plan to have a toll road around Dublin but to not install any toll booths!! (my British husband says only the Irish could come up with this idea!! LOL) If you plan to do a lot driving around Dublin then I recommend you get a pass (you can get these at certain shops) The killer is that only part of the ring road is toll. If you are going to the north of Dublin from the south of Dublin and then back to the south - you have to pay for 2 trips (coming & going). You must pay for your journey before 8pm the next day if you do not have your license plate (aka tag) registered for an account. Here is the website for the ring road tolls...... http://www.eflow.ie/tolls/index.htm Have a great time!! We did and we even had snow when were went to the Giant's Causeway!!! I can highly recommend driving to the Giant's Causeway by the road that runs along the Irish Sea - the A2....it quite a spectactular drive!! Nancy Peel By the way keep an eye on the Iceland volanco because the ash cloud closed the airports in Northern Ireland yesterday. webcam for the volcano is http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/

Hi John, your plan is very do-able. I ventured out a few years ago with a friend who lived in Louth. In one day we drove to Fermanagh, over to the west coast of Donegal, drove north, bought some cheese, toured the bottom of Inishowen watching some fishermen fish, crossed into Northern Ireland, hugging the north coast. At dinner in Bushmills. Turned south. Cruised rapidly through Belfast and returned home in the mid evening. It's not a huge place. Of course the roads were two lane must of the way so we were not traveling like we would on the Autobahn. On another trip I started in Belfast, drove to Fermanagh and across to the coast of Donegal, turned north, headed east up through the pass to Lisburn, drove back to Belfast. It really depends on how many stops you want to make. The north coastal road from northern Antrim to Belfast is very scenic, btw. The fast route is up on top! I recommend the scenic route one way at least. The B&Bs in Britain are regulated and are generally very nice. You can get a room locally. There's offices (and signs to the office) to book rooms. I can give you the email of the one we stay in in Belfast. It is 'en suite'. This is Irish for "private bath, American style". Otherwise you run the risk of having to share. Might or might not bother you. Avenue Guest House is here: http://www.avenueguesthouse.com/ . There's a hotel across the road and a less expensive one that was not en suite. There's good restaurants at either end of the street. The street is beautiful (see photie). Catch bus a block away on Lisburn Road. Walk to Queens. Check out second hand bookshop. Actually I found some locally published books in Queens bookstore you can't get outside of Northern Ireland, like one that is a road tour of the antiquities of County Antrim. I like having a place to go to the first night as I am exhausted. Belfast driving is not for me. Too many one way streets -- the wrong way! I once got lost in Falls Road. I was late for a luncheon engagement up Lisburn Road near Eglantine (so locals know how lost I was!). I wanted to ask someone but was having a problem figuring out how to stop the car so that I was on the correct side to converse (as it is backwards from the USA). The busses get you around great, but then you are male and probably will drive <grin>. Parking is a pain as it is in all big cities. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 12:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this before getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations yet. I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. Last time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth hostels. John Polk Maryland USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while > Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations > for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from > Northern Ireland. > > What to do? > > Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they > do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a > lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history > books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of > course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is > awkward searching them from afar. > > Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots to > see and do. > > If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, > advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's your > time! > > > Linda Merle > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a > while > > >>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I > > Is mise le meas, > Gobnait > > Cast a cold eye > On life, on death. > Horseman, pass by! > W.B.Yeats' tombstone > > www.johnaalogan.com > www.theorangepiguk.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John: How I envy your trip. Here is a B&B in County Tyrone you might take a look at. I have never been there so can only pass along what I have been told by a lady from Australia who says she has stayed there several times. It is one of my ancestral homes in Co Tyrone originally owned by the COCHRAN family. Their daughter, Mary Ann, was born there in Oct 1713. She married my immigrant ancestor, James PETTIGREW III. I have no financial interest in the place, but have had emails from the proprietors about the history of The Grange. Have a nice trip. http://www.grangelodgecountryhouse.com/ Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, North Carolina

The big signs along the streets or on corners with a BIG I are Information and money changers........also have booklets with all the B&Bs in NI or the areas you are going to visit We used these all the time. Other information in them too...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to beclosed for a while >I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but > then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will > not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. > General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, > Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this > before > getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. > > We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations > yet. > I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing > everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. > Last > time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth > hostels. > > John Polk > Maryland USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed > for a while > > >> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations >> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >> Northern Ireland. >> >> What to do? >> >> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they >> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >> awkward searching them from afar. >> >> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >> to >> see and do. >> >> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >> your >> time! >> >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >> while >> >> >>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >> >> Is mise le meas, >> Gobnait >> >> Cast a cold eye >> On life, on death. >> Horseman, pass by! >> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >> >> www.johnaalogan.com >> www.theorangepiguk.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey John, I agree with Linda. We had almost the same trip......We started in Belfast and went up on the coastal Road.........It was beautiful and around the Causeway , ate at Bushmills and down thru the middle of the country back to Belfast..Isnt far but loved scenery...In Dublin we went from Belfast on train spent the night and a day of sightseeing, Dublin Castle, Book of Kells, etc. then back to Belfast on the commuter train..........saved driving in Dublin. In 2008 we drove but didnt run into the new toll road we just heard about......the round-abouts are fun. only 5-6 lanes to watch out for......and I thought Houston and Austin traffic was dangerous. Have fun Sarah ----- > Hi John, your plan is very do-able. I ventured out a few years ago with a > friend who lived in Louth. In one day we drove to Fermanagh, over to the > west coast of Donegal, drove north, bought some cheese, toured the bottom > of Inishowen watching some fishermen fish, crossed into Northern Ireland, > hugging the north coast. At dinner in Bushmills. Turned south. Cruised > rapidly through Belfast and returned home in the mid evening. It's not a > huge place. Of course the roads were two lane must of the way so we were > not traveling like we would on the Autobahn. On another trip I started in > Belfast, drove to Fermanagh and across to the coast of Donegal, turned > north, headed east up through the pass to Lisburn, drove back to Belfast. > > It really depends on how many stops you want to make. The north coastal > road from northern Antrim to Belfast is very scenic, btw. The fast route > is up on top! I recommend the scenic route one way at least. > > The B&Bs in Britain are regulated and are generally very nice. You can get > a room locally. There's offices (and signs to the office) to book rooms. I > can give you the email of the one we stay in in Belfast. It is 'en suite'. > This is Irish for "private bath, American style". Otherwise you run the > risk of having to share. Might or might not bother you. Avenue Guest House > is here: http://www.avenueguesthouse.com/ . There's a hotel across the > road and a less expensive one that was not en suite. There's good > restaurants at either end of the street. The street is beautiful (see > photie). Catch bus a block away on Lisburn Road. Walk to Queens. Check out > second hand bookshop. Actually I found some locally published books in > Queens bookstore you can't get outside of Northern Ireland, like one that > is a road tour of the antiquities of County Antrim. > > I like having a place to go to the first night as I am exhausted. > > Belfast driving is not for me. Too many one way streets -- the wrong way! > I once got lost in Falls Road. I was late for a luncheon engagement up > Lisburn Road near Eglantine (so locals know how lost I was!). I wanted to > ask someone but was having a problem figuring out how to stop the car so > that I was on the correct side to converse (as it is backwards from the > USA). The busses get you around great, but then you are male and probably > will drive <grin>. Parking is a pain as it is in all big cities. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 12:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed for a while > > I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, > but > then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will > not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. > General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, > Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this > before > getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. > > We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations > yet. > I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing > everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. > Last > time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth > hostels. > > John Polk > Maryland USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed > for a while > > >> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations >> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >> Northern Ireland. >> >> What to do? >> >> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they >> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >> awkward searching them from afar. >> >> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >> to >> see and do. >> >> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >> your >> time! >> >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >> while >> >> >>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >> >> Is mise le meas, >> Gobnait >> >> Cast a cold eye >> On life, on death. >> Horseman, pass by! >> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >> >> www.johnaalogan.com >> www.theorangepiguk.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi folks, me again. Also the Family History Library has some records on microfilm. One way to find these is consult Ryan "Irish Records". If he knew (when he wrote the book) that film number of the records, he includes it. You can fidn this book in your local library or ask specifics on this list. There are also websites that include the FHL film numbers of various congregations. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=374561.0 has a lot of leads. Googling will turn up more. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/county/antrim.html While they may not have copies of baptisms, marriages, etc (though they might -- some have collections of immigration records), seminary libraries have large collections of Irish Presbyterian records. Locally there are at least two (Pittsburgh): the Reformed Presbyterian library and the UP Library. I have been to both. The Rps collect church histories and have many from Northern Ireland (the librarian was minister in a congregation over there). They also have published copies of very early Presbytery and Synod records. The UP is more diverse. I seem to recall also collections of Scottish Presbytery records and well as records on the Cameronians. The UP has a lot on dissenting Presbyterians such as the Cambellites as well. Also both have of course copies of theses written by doctorial students. Some of these are a wealth of information. Catalogs are on line. The RPs do NOT archive at the Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia, though of course there is some stuff there. They regarded the place with horror when I spoke to them. The Pittsburgh group is the 'faithful remnant', left after 2/3rds left in I think it was 1835 or so. So they may have nothing on your ancestor after that date if he was a New Light, as my ancestors were. The 'continuing' church's headquarters are now in Missouri: http://www.pcahistory.org So that may be a better place to search for New Lighters like my relative, the Rev. John Black: http://www.pcahistory.org/biography/black.html . The RPs published a magazine in the 1800s that gave news (marriages, deaths, baptisms, migrations) of members, largely in the USA but also back in the homeland. http://www.rpts.edu/academics/library.php So you can also visit Philadelphia (though not recommended: full of Quakers.... Pennsylvania Scotch Irish joke: we hate Quakers: they fed us to the Indians in the mid 1700s......), Pittsburgh (full of us), Missouri (there's something west of the Pittsburgh Triangle???). I am neglecting southern repositories because I don't know much about them but please, someone, fill us in! Linda merle

Hey John, Aren't you blessed one now aren't you? on our trip in 05 we did about the same plan as you mentioned.......beauty everywhere....would go again in a heartbeat......Up North around the Causeway and Bushmills is a special area and neat town. If you can go before June it is less crowded. Plenty of B&Bs pick one close to the sea.....From the Causeway Rd. you can sometimes see Scotland. We called each night for around the places the next day but also just picked one after we got there. Never had any trouble finding a nice place to stay......staying with the local folks is my favorite. You get some of the best ideas and most enjoyable visits with them. Several big castles in that upper area of NI......along the coast. You are envied.........Have a great Holiday as the Irish call vacations. Gods speed fellow searcher. My Flemings were from NI. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland tobeclosed for a while > Enjoy! I'm jealous. If you find any Hart folks in the Northern Ireland > area, please let me know. > Karen Hart Anthony > (formerly of Maryland, but now in Maine) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to > beclosed for a while > > >>I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, >>but >> then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but >> will >> not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. >> General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, >> Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this >> before >> getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. >> >> We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations >> yet. >> I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing >> everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. >> Last >> time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth >> hostels. >> >> John Polk >> Maryland USA >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 >> Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be >> closed >> for a while >> >> >>> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by >>> preparations >>> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >>> Northern Ireland. >>> >>> What to do? >>> >>> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is >>> they >>> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >>> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >>> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >>> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >>> awkward searching them from afar. >>> >>> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >>> to >>> see and do. >>> >>> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >>> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >>> your >>> time! >>> >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected], [email protected], >>> [email protected], [email protected], >>> [email protected], [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >>> while >>> >>> >>>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >>> >>> Is mise le meas, >>> Gobnait >>> >>> Cast a cold eye >>> On life, on death. >>> Horseman, pass by! >>> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >>> >>> www.johnaalogan.com >>> www.theorangepiguk.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Linda, {Still studing the DNA stuff!!} The Presbyterian Historical Society has reopened on a part time basis with Valerie Adams {former head of reader services at PRONI} as the new Librarian. Hours of opening are Monday closed Tuesday 9.30 am-4.30 pm Wednesday 9.30 am -4.30 pm Thrusday 9.30 am to 1.00 pm Friday closed regards Robert > Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:56:44 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while > > Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from Northern Ireland. > > What to do? > > Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is awkward searching them from afar. > > Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots to see and do. > > If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's your time! > > > Linda Merle > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while > > > >From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- [email protected] -- or letter care of Church House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I > > Is mise le meas, > Gobnait > > Cast a cold eye > On life, on death. > Horseman, pass by! > W.B.Yeats' tombstone > > www.johnaalogan.com > www.theorangepiguk.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

Enjoy! I'm jealous. If you find any Hart folks in the Northern Ireland area, please let me know. Karen Hart Anthony (formerly of Maryland, but now in Maine) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to beclosed for a while >I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but > then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will > not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. > General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, > Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this > before > getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. > > We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations > yet. > I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing > everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. > Last > time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth > hostels. > > John Polk > Maryland USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed > for a while > > >> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations >> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >> Northern Ireland. >> >> What to do? >> >> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they >> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >> awkward searching them from afar. >> >> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >> to >> see and do. >> >> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >> your >> time! >> >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >> while >> >> >>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >> >> Is mise le meas, >> Gobnait >> >> Cast a cold eye >> On life, on death. >> Horseman, pass by! >> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >> >> www.johnaalogan.com >> www.theorangepiguk.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from Northern Ireland. What to do? Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is awkward searching them from afar. Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots to see and do. If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's your time! Linda Merle ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while >From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- [email protected] -- or letter care of Church House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I Is mise le meas, Gobnait Cast a cold eye On life, on death. Horseman, pass by! W.B.Yeats' tombstone www.johnaalogan.com www.theorangepiguk.com

LOL Round abouts, ah yes quite an experience. Just be sure to rent an automatic !!!   The roads are very narrow unless you are on a main freeway like the M-1. be prepared to be startled at times . Fortunately they all most all drive small cars. However in small towns they park with one set of wheels on the side walks. Linda ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 4:09:29 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] John's Irish Trip Regarding money, I just kept two 'piles', one in each currency. You don't need a lot of cash. Plastic works and unless you are in a rural area, there are ATMs. The advice about roundabouts was very good. I had forgotten about these. We have them in New England, but not in Pennsylvania, where I was raised. Neither I nor my husband knew what they were till one day we were barrelling up Route 2, exploring New England, when we saw the sign. "What's that?" he asked. "I don't know," said I. Round and round we went and ended up heading back up the way we came. They are more confusing in Ireland since you are on the wrong side and going the wrong way. Why are we trying to make cellphoning while driving illegal and not roundabouts??? Linda Merle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I went to Ireland 2 1/2 yrs ago. My friend and I drove also and really enjoyed it.  We did not take cell phones as the cost didn't seem to fit our need. Internet cafe's there too so we emailed home. B&B's are great there and cheaper than hotel rooms. You don't need reservations unless you are planning on staying in a really popular tourist B&B that is near everything. We had no problems finding one as they are virtually on every corner now. You can go down a street and see whole blocks of B&B's built recently.  I do strongly recommend that you make lunch time your biggest meal as it is much much cheaper to eat lunch than it is dinner. Even the Irish can't afford to eat out since they decided to go Euro. Many regret it alot. Also some roadside sites that used to be free are now being charged admission.  We avoided the really big tourist sites like Blarney Castle because they charged the equiv of 16- 18 dollars American just to get in and i'm sure it's likely higher now.  Enjoy, I loved it and would go every year if I could afford too. As for the B&B's check to see if on their sign they have the shamrock and tourist board seal of approval, they are registered. In the fall of 07 we paid about 42-45 dollars Amer each a night, ensuite, 2 beds and full  breakfast.  You will love it. ________________________________ From: Shirley Weber <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 1:42:14 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to beclosed for a while Hi John, My daughter, son-in-law and myself did this in 2005.  Did use a cell phone when we knew we might be for the night and called places we had checked evening before and some we waited until we arrived in area.  Never had a problem but did make use of the cell phone so I would advise taking one that can be used overseas or buy one after you are there. I took my car charger with me and that is how we kept phone charged.  No problems with renting cars, but age maybe a factor.  I was 75 at the time and was renting the first car from here so it would be at airport and knew I was told I could not drive but placed my son-in-law as driver.  So check this out. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to beclosed for a while >I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but > then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will > not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. > General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, > Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this > before > getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. > > We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations > yet. > I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing > everything down in advance. Is this a mistake?  All advice appreciated. > Last > time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth > hostels. > > John Polk > Maryland USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed > for a while > > >> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations >> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >> Northern Ireland. >> >> What to do? >> >> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they >> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >> awkward searching them from afar. >> >> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >> to >> see and do. >> >> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >> your >> time! >> >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >> while >> >> >>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >> >> Is mise le meas, >> Gobnait >> >> Cast a cold eye >> On life, on death. >> Horseman, pass by! >> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >> >> www.johnaalogan.com >> www.theorangepiguk.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this before getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations yet. I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. Last time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth hostels. John Polk Maryland USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a while > Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations > for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from > Northern Ireland. > > What to do? > > Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they > do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a > lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history > books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of > course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is > awkward searching them from afar. > > Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots to > see and do. > > If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, > advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's your > time! > > > Linda Merle > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a > while > > >>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I > > Is mise le meas, > Gobnait > > Cast a cold eye > On life, on death. > Horseman, pass by! > W.B.Yeats' tombstone > > www.johnaalogan.com > www.theorangepiguk.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, My daughter, son-in-law and myself did this in 2005. Did use a cell phone when we knew we might be for the night and called places we had checked evening before and some we waited until we arrived in area. Never had a problem but did make use of the cell phone so I would advise taking one that can be used overseas or buy one after you are there. I took my car charger with me and that is how we kept phone charged. No problems with renting cars, but age maybe a factor. I was 75 at the time and was renting the first car from here so it would be at airport and knew I was told I could not drive but placed my son-in-law as driver. So check this out. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Polk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to beclosed for a while >I am heading for Ireland in two weeks, all in May, initially in Dublin, but > then a swing through the North. Plans are pretty loose at present but will > not include researching in archives, etc. Strictly a sightseeing venture. > General plan is Tara, Armagh, Giants Causeway, Bushmills, Roe Vally, > Londonderry, Omaha, Lifford, Donegal. Only have six days for all this > before > getting back to Dublin for reunion with some friends. > > We will be looking to stay at B&B's but have not made any reservations > yet. > I prefer to decide things day by day on the go rather than nailing > everything down in advance. Is this a mistake? All advice appreciated. > Last > time I did this was in 1959 when I was on a bike and stayed at youth > hostels. > > John Polk > Maryland USA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:56 > Subject: [S-I] Fwd: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be > closed > for a while > > >> Hi folks, our list member forgot to copy us....distracted by preparations >> for her upcoming Scottish trip, perhaps. Anyway, more good news from >> Northern Ireland. >> >> What to do? >> >> Go to Salt Lake. Send the family off on a ski trip or whatever it is they >> do up there when the snow finally melts, and hit the stacks. They have a >> lot of stuff there including a long long collection of local history >> books, indexed parliamentary papers, all the microfilm collection, of >> course, but the actual library books are what to hit first since it is >> awkward searching them from afar. >> >> Or hit the Linen Hall Library in Belfast. Armagh Museum, etc, etc. Lots >> to >> see and do. >> >> If anyone is planning a trip over and would like to ask for suggestions, >> advice, hints on the best places to eat, and what to do or see, now's >> your >> time! >> >> >> Linda Merle >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected], [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:06:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland to be closed for a >> while >> >> >>>From the most recent copy of The Bulletin of the Presbyterian Historical >>>Society of Ireland: "Owing to the building work in Church House, the >>>library of the Presbyterian Historical Society will be closed for the >>>foreseeable future. Urgent inquiries are best made by email-- >>>[email protected] -- or letter care of Church >>>House, Fisherwick Place, Belfast, BT1 6DW, N. Ireland. I >> >> Is mise le meas, >> Gobnait >> >> Cast a cold eye >> On life, on death. >> Horseman, pass by! >> W.B.Yeats' tombstone >> >> www.johnaalogan.com >> www.theorangepiguk.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Charlie, Were did your Witherspoon emigrate to in America? There is a 1740s family in South Carolina right below Myrtle Beach? Colin Brooks The 1718 project In a message dated 5/3/2010 7:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Am searching for collaborative information on two of my SCT ancestors who migrated to Co Tyrone and/or Derry. The names are WITHERSPOON/WOTHERSPOON and PETTIGREW. Both families would have migrated before 1700. The PETTIGREWs settled at Crilly House near Aughnacloy, Co Tyrone, where my immigrant ancestor, James III was born in 1713. He married Mary Ann COCHRAN in Co Tyrone 7 Oct 1731. His parents are supposedly James II and Martha MOORE PETTIGREW. Looking for any information on Martha. They came to America in Nov 1741, where their daughter, Martha, married John WITHERSPOON. The WITHERSPOON family, strong Presbyterians, may, just MAY, have migrated to the Derry area of NIR in the late 1690s My immigrant, John, was supposedly born in Londonderry c1725-26. He came to America c1740. Would appreciate any info, particularly on the WITHERSPOONs in Derry. Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA <[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am searching for collaborative information on two of my SCT ancestors who migrated to Co Tyrone and/or Derry. The names are WITHERSPOON/WOTHERSPOON and PETTIGREW. Both families would have migrated before 1700. The PETTIGREWs settled at Crilly House near Aughnacloy, Co Tyrone, where my immigrant ancestor, James III was born in 1713. He married Mary Ann COCHRAN in Co Tyrone 7 Oct 1731. His parents are supposedly James II and Martha MOORE PETTIGREW. Looking for any information on Martha. They came to America in Nov 1741, where their daughter, Martha, married John WITHERSPOON. The WITHERSPOON family, strong Presbyterians, may, just MAY, have migrated to the Derry area of NIR in the late 1690s My immigrant, John, was supposedly born in Londonderry c1725-26. He came to America c1740. Would appreciate any info, particularly on the WITHERSPOONs in Derry. Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA <[email protected]>