Linda Thank you so much for this generosity of spirit. Please look up Callaghan and Bloomfield Thank you. Deborah

-----07, 2011 11:46 AM Subject: [S-I] look-up for me > Hi linda, > What would this site do without you??? > All your wisdom and know-how is great. Thanks a million. > Can you look for our Key,& Armstrong names. I have O"Hara around there too > but may be down in Sligo area. I had my Fleming family and extended other > names of Mackie, Cayce, Renick, Ash, Davison, and Adrian. These were married into the Fleming line.. They were in Co. Tyrone and came over to US in early 1720s-30s. 1st names were Robert, Eliijah, Alexander, . What a jewel you are to help us. Thanks a million, Sarah > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4602 - Release Date: 11/07/11 >

Linda, Thanks for the offer to check your book for us. Please look for Gillon (also spelled Gillan, Gillion). Jill

Well Linda, I guess I will jump in here too, before you become so overloaded that you want to refuse to do any more. :) I have an interest in the suname BOYD in early Ulster. If you haven't all ready faded to gray.....I would appreciate a look up on them. Diane

nanunanu@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: nanunanu@earthlink.net To: Linda Merle Sent: 11/9/2011 12:07:38 AM Subject: Linda did I mess up? I unsubscribed from list and then subscribed to digest and now I'm receiving nothing---help Carolyn nanunanu@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Linda, What a generous offer!! Please look up the Graham, Graeme, Grimes crowd for me! MANY thanks! Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: lmerle@comcast.net<mailto:lmerle@comcast.net> To: List<mailto:scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: [S-I] "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster 1641-1691" Hi folks, I have sprung for this book, compiled by Brian Mitchell. It contains two lists of names (with some details) from two sources. These are the muster roll of Garrison in the City of Londonderry from 1642-43. This resides in PRONI as T808/15176, from the National Archives in London, State Papers, Domestic, Commonwealth Exchequer Papers, bundles 120 and 121). The second is from "The Fighters of Derry Their Deeds and Descendants..." by William Young, published in 1932. It covers the period 1688-1691. It also names those of the Enniskillen campaign as well as the harrying of Jacobite forces in Connaught and Ulster by locally raised regiments out of Enniskillen, Battle of the Boyne, Battle of Aughrim, and the final Irish surrender 23 Sept. 1691. It includes the list of 921 people declared traitors by James' II's parliament in Dublin in 1689. I am willing to do very quick lookups over the next few weeks but only a few a day. I am also only willing to look up a name ONCE. So if your name has been done and I remember, you'll need to check the archives. Thus you'll learn how to do this and I'll feel less like I'm in some kind of endless lookup hell <grin>. When this happens I get grouchy and quit. Anyone else with a decent resource who feels inclined to make a look up offer -- we love this. The archives are full of the results. If you haven't checked the archives for lookups of your surname, wow, are you messing up <grin>. By 'decent' I mean please don't share your coffee table books or the stuff that sometimes get published for what reason I donno...I think to recruit cannon fodder for the armies (chest swelling, sources stuff about brave Scotch Irish soldiers, settlers, etc.). Primarily we want stuff that'll help us find our ancestors. Not books that are dead ends. I'll also post some info in the front of the book on the time period. Many of those mentioned left for America within a generation. You can generally tell if your ancestor was a defender of Derry because he was excluded from paying taxes for his life. You will find farms in New England that are excluded from paying taxes. I believe this ended with the Revolution. Anyone know? PS: if you are reading this later than December 2011, I have probably refiled the book on my self, where it is lost. So check the archives. Linda Merle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Carla, I don't think we have the same tribe....mine didn't come over until mid-1800s, and they came to Massachusetts. But they are common names...and that makes all this more difficult, right? Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla DeVille" <carla_deville@yahoo.com> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > McCoy and McKay surname are found in Louisiana along with my Chapmans who > were Scot-Irish. I need more information on them and I love to share what > I have. > > > Carla DeVille > Diggin up bones in my sleep! > > > ________________________________ > From: Marilyn Otterson <rosiedoggie@myfairpoint.net> > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:47 PM > Subject: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field > > Hi, > I just dropped into the list today as I have been involved in a couple of > other projects and have let genealogy slide. > > Now I see McKoy and McKay and now I am interested. I never pass up a > chance > to ask this group questions and now I am wondering a bit what is going on. > Anyway....Armstrong, McCoy (or sometimes McKay), Milligan and Field from > Co. > Tyrone. If anybody sees those names, I'd love to know about it. > > Thanks, > Marilyn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Linda, Lovely thing you're doing. I hope you're not overwhelmed. Could you please look up the surnames Atwell and Doak?Thanks,Joan > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:15:56 +0000 > From: lmerle@comcast.net > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [S-I] "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster 1641-1691" > > Hi folks, > > I have sprung for this book, compiled by Brian Mitchell. It contains two lists of names (with some details) from two sources. These are the muster roll of Garrison in the City of Londonderry from 1642-43. This resides in PRONI as T808/15176, from the National Archives in London, State Papers, Domestic, Commonwealth Exchequer Papers, bundles 120 and 121). The second is from "The Fighters of Derry Their Deeds and Descendants..." by William Young, published in 1932. It covers the period 1688-1691. It also names those of the Enniskillen campaign as well as the harrying of Jacobite forces in Connaught and Ulster by locally raised regiments out of Enniskillen, Battle of the Boyne, Battle of Aughrim, and the final Irish surrender 23 Sept. 1691. It includes the list of 921 people declared traitors by James' II's parliament in Dublin in 1689. ends. > Linda Merle >

Are Sir John McCall and his sons of Belfast listed? I have Lamock McColl and Allyn McCall listed in Muster Roll of Donegal in 1630 AD serving under Sir John Kingsmell (undertaker of 2270 acres) -----Original Message----- From: lmerle <lmerle@comcast.net> To: scotch-irish <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 9:28 am Subject: Re: [S-I] "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster 1641-1691" - McCaw, Harness Hi Jan, They're not there so apparently they were some where else or not of the right ges. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Jan Fennell" <jsfennell@shaw.ca> o: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com ent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:05:47 PM ubject: [S-I] "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster 1641-1691" - McCaw, illon, McCurdy, Anderson, Cargill Linda, You are so generous. Please know that we are so thankful for all that you do. Please lookup Harkness, which may well have been Harkneys at that period in ime. anice née Harkness Sent from my iPad On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:18 AM, SUSAN BR <susanbrown7777@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Linda could I please have McCaw, Dillon, McCurdy, Anderson, Cargill lookups lease? Thank you so much, Susan > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:15:56 +0000 > From: lmerle@comcast.net > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: [S-I] "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster 1641-1691" > > Hi folks, > > I have sprung for this book, compiled by Brian Mitchell. It contains two ists of names (with some details) from two sources. These are the muster roll f Garrison in the City of Londonderry from 1642-43. This resides in PRONI as 808/15176, from the National Archives in London, State Papers, Domestic, ommonwealth Exchequer Papers, bundles 120 and 121). The second is from "The ighters of Derry Their Deeds and Descendants..." by William Young, published in 932. It covers the period 1688-1691. It also names those of the Enniskillen ampaign as well as the harrying of Jacobite forces in Connaught and Ulster by ocally raised regiments out of Enniskillen, Battle of the Boyne, Battle of ughrim, and the final Irish surrender 23 Sept. 1691. It includes the list of 21 people declared traitors by James' II's parliament in Dublin in 1689. > > I am willing to do very quick lookups over the next few weeks but only a few day. I am also only willing to look up a name ONCE. So if your name has been one and I remember, you'll need to check the archives. Thus you'll learn how to o this and I'll feel less like I'm in some kind of endless lookup hell <grin>. hen this happens I get grouchy and quit. > > Anyone else with a decent resource who feels inclined to make a look up offer - we love this. The archives are full of the results. If you haven't checked he archives for lookups of your surname, wow, are you messing up <grin>. By decent' I mean please don't share your coffee table books or the stuff that ometimes get published for what reason I donno...I think to recruit cannon odder for the armies (chest swelling, sources stuff about brave Scotch Irish oldiers, settlers, etc.). Primarily we want stuff that'll help us find our ncestors. Not books that are dead ends. > > I'll also post some info in the front of the book on the time period. > > Many of those mentioned left for America within a generation. You can enerally tell if your ancestor was a defender of Derry because he was excluded rom paying taxes for his life. You will find farms in New England that are xcluded from paying taxes. I believe this ended with the Revolution. Anyone now? > > PS: if you are reading this later than December 2011, I have probably refiled he book on my self, where it is lost. So check the archives. > > Linda Merle > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

McCoy and McKay surname are found in Louisiana along with my Chapmans who were Scot-Irish.  I need more information on them and I love to share what I have. Carla DeVille Diggin up bones in my sleep! ________________________________ From: Marilyn Otterson <rosiedoggie@myfairpoint.net> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: [S-I] McCoy, McKay, Armstrong, Milligan, Field Hi, I just dropped into the list today as I have been involved in a couple of other projects and have let genealogy slide. Now I see McKoy and McKay and now I am interested.  I never pass up a chance to ask this group questions and now I am wondering a bit what is going on. Anyway....Armstrong, McCoy (or sometimes McKay), Milligan and Field from Co. Tyrone.  If anybody sees those names, I'd love to know about it. Thanks, Marilyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi LINDA, In an earlier email you mentioned BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM, Co. GALWAY. Could you please tell me what you know about these records. My fathers family were from this area - I have been able to track records back to BMD 1864 in the parish of ABBEYKNOCKMOY. Prior to that I am hoping his families BMD records were recorded in TUAM, which is where the official records were kept starting from 1864. Thanks & Regards, SEAN

Hi John, Thanks for the stories about Cromwell. There is not much about him in 'our' history in Ireland as he went out and did what our ancestors hoped: pacified the Irish without demanding too much from themselves. This was undoubtedly because he really didn't trust them. After all, they were Irish and the Irish defected every which way. And then they were Scots and he'd learned the hard way to not trust them. Since the Congregationalists ran the government for that approximate ten year period (I learned in Falley), and they were Baptists, they quit baptizing children so there are no records for that period. Just marriages. I guess we can hold that grudge against him for that. A number of American colonies harbored colleagues of his after he died, was buried, dug up, etc... The regicides! There are still streets, etc, named after them. As for your not knowing for sure where the ancestors came from, Scotland or Ireland....welcome to the Scotch Irish list! We're all in the same boat (though our ancestors apparently were not). My own great aunt, when asked to record in a letter where the family came from, wrote that they were from Glasgow. Actually they deported from there. Her very own birth certificate, which she had, clearly indicated she'd was born in Polmont, Scotland. These confusions just multiply with time. However if they said they came from Ireland, gather up some more details or clues and do a study of where they would then have lived in Ireland. Probably Fermanagh is a good place to start looking. When locals here ask me where I live I say in Arnold up on the hill. That's so they don't think I'm one of those drug dealers who live down at the bottom of the hill, literally on the other side of the rail road tracks (who all came from Pittsburgh ). However if I am in New York or even Philly and am asked, I say Pittsburgh, because no one knows Arnold there. In Massachusetts I rapidly learned to say Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, because if I just said "Pittsburgh" they thought I said "Fitchburg" and being from there is very boring and so the conversation ended. This is why maybe Pilgrims said "Boston" when they lived in Worcester, because who heard of Worcester? Maybe your DNA matches the other John Hume? Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "john.hume" <john.hume@ntlworld.com> To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 3:20:30 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island Sorry, I got your name wrong LINDA, must be my age, but thanks for the information and the lengthy personal message you took time to write. Just something that might make you smile. It was Cromwell indeed who laid siege to Hume Castle in Berwickshire around 1650. Still a ruin, although the walls have been repaired. A few years ago I was visiting Ely in Cambridge shire, where the historical home of Oliver Cromwell is situated. Today it is used as the Tourist Information Office. I went inside and asked the simple (like me, simple) question, was this indeed Oliver's house. Being given an affirmative reply, I then asked for compensation. A bewildered look from the receptioist, it was because he knocked my castle down was my reply. She didn't find it funny. Now as I am the Treasurer of the Hume Clan, I think I'll might have another go, in an official capacity. LOL. The reason I think my family came over from Ireland is that my 'ancestor in USA, claims that his ancestors records from the arrival there, states that he came from Ireland. Whether that was because the ship sailed last from there or that he was from there, we don't know. Did the Pilgrim fathers state that they were from Boston in England or from Ireland, if they had stopped there. Not sure if you are interested, but there is still a pub in Lincolnshire named 'The Pilgrims Last ' or something like that. It's been many years since I noticed it. Strange to think all this went off just a few miles from where my family lived. Anyway, many thanks for your very interesting replies, nice to know that you give out lots of free info, so much more than any other sites that I subscribe to. Thanks regards John Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <lmerle@comcast.net> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > Hi John, my paternal great grandparents emigrated from Hetton le Hole > there in Durham. Surname is Mason and then a lot of other common surnames > for the region. They left Weardale around 1830 or so. I've had my father's > DNA tested too. We don't even have a 37 marker match. I am told by the > geneticists that that is not surprising. Apparently he was very old DNA. > For some more money I could confirm he is one of a group of Frisians who > arrived long before the Romans. > > Your HUMEs might have come to Ireland as part of the general Border Clan > Cleanup conducted by King James in the early 1600s. If they're in > Fermanagh, it's highly likely. > > Another possibility. Have you gone downtown lately in Durham. See big > statue?? That's the Marquis of Londonderry. He married locally and so > acquired estates. It's very probably he relocated people between the two. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Londonderry > > I'd check the early planters for men with Durham connections of any sort. > Or where ever it was yours were in the early 1700s, maybe Scotland. > > The Ulster Scots didn't fight Cromwell. The politics in Ireland are very > different from Scotland. Cromwell knew little about Ireland, excepting > that he wished everyone there was dead, so he didn't realize that either > and drew up plans to transport all the Scots far away from their annoying > cousins. However what they did was support him against their ever present > enemies the Irish and their Anglo Irish leaders. They were no more > interested in seeing a new government composed of Jacobite Catholic > English than they were Irish chiefs. So to them Cromwell looked like a > great fellow, a fellow Calvinist. Especially since he was good at killing > their enemies. So Cromwell abandoned his plans to transport them. Whether > he employed many in his army I do not know. A trip to Kew Gardens might > tell the story. > > Plus in Ireland high church English tended to persecute dissenting > Protestants while low churchmen persecuted Catholics. Cromwell was low > church and so they figured if he won they would be left to worship in > peace. > > Sorry about your castle, but he also stabled his army in Durham Cathedral. > I'm angry at him for that. Though after reading a lot of history books, it > does look like he was the good guy -- a moderate. Not one of those > extremist nasty English Congregationalists (I got Culmers from Kent: so > Blue Dick Culmer is probably a relative) or those Jacobites and their wild > ways <grin>. However in the end he was convenient to blame everything on > and so he has become a universal scapegoat. If only he was still with > us....we could send him off to Greece <grin>. > > Nigel Tranter's histories are full of stories about the Humes. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Tranter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john.hume" <john.hume@ntlworld.com> > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:43:12 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > > Hi all, > After such an entertaining week with all these postings from the > Scotch-Irish site, I'm ALMOST to afraid to ask the question. So many > thanks > to Imerle for spending her time in supplying so much information to so > many > different researchers. Whilst all the previous postings haven't revealed > anything regarding my own families, it has made it much more interesting > to > understand how the Scots and Irish lived their lives in the period > 1600-1700. It is so easy (to a point of course) to discover facts from > 1720 > or so forwards. > > So my problem, which I have aired a few times on various sites, is with > the > name HUME. > I've traced my immediate family back to 1720 without any problems at all. > When you watch the various TV programmes there are not many family trees > that seem to trace back to the 18th C. IN my case, about two days of > research and a trip to York. All was revealed. It has been nice to visit > all > those headstones - graves of all those ancestors who make up that direct > line. Many researchers complain that their surname alters with every > census > or parish record, I'm pleased to say that has NEVER occurred during y > research, aren't I the lucky one. > > I noticed that quite a few researchers have been informed to have their > DNA > done. I fully agree with that. Okay, £100 up front, with nothing to show > except expectations. Four years later down the line, I'm still waiting for > another 67 marker to match with me. But the three that have matched are > remarkable that they are all in the USA, and, that their surname is HUMES. > > That came as a shock, bearing in mind what I've just written. So back to > Durham (UK) and that very first marriage in 1721 for my Andrew Hume, could > that little squiggle on the end of the 'E' just be an 'S', I think so. So > how did my Irish family of HUMES arrive in the USA from around 1760 and my > line came from Durham in 1690. Therefore the question is did my Andrew's > family come over from Ireland to Scotland, maybe to fight Cromwell, (after > all, he did knock my Hume Castle down). Leaving some of the family alone > in > Ireland, they eventually made their way to the colonies. And Andrew being > left in England, as a Butcher from Durham, starting my line of about 3000 > descendents (that is the figure in my family tree at the moment) > > So have you any HUME or HUMES mentioned anywhere, I would be grateful, > thank > you for taking time to reading this lengthy message, but hopefully it > might > get more people to have their DNA taken > regards > john Hume > Nottingham > Home of Robin Hood > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lmerle@comcast.net> > To: "List" <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:47 PM > Subject: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Here is an important event for Glenns Scots to recall: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathlin_Island_Massacre >> >> Much more history of the Island here: >> http://www.ballycastle.free-online.co.uk/places/rathlin/rathlin.htm >> >> How about another battle? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carrickfergus_%281597%29 >> >> So you see why a mere 75 years or less afterwards the McDonnells were >> still a bit leery of the English. There were people alive who still >> remembered. >> >> History of the McDonnells: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Donald >> >> Scots clans are geographical. If your ancestors were in the parts of >> Antrim they controlled, you are a McDonnell. >> >> Linda Merle - mother a McDonnell, father a Campbell (sept Ure), which is >> why I have problems <grin>. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I just dropped into the list today as I have been involved in a couple of other projects and have let genealogy slide. Now I see McKoy and McKay and now I am interested. I never pass up a chance to ask this group questions and now I am wondering a bit what is going on. Anyway....Armstrong, McCoy (or sometimes McKay), Milligan and Field from Co. Tyrone. If anybody sees those names, I'd love to know about it. Thanks, Marilyn

Sorry, I got your name wrong LINDA, must be my age, but thanks for the information and the lengthy personal message you took time to write. Just something that might make you smile. It was Cromwell indeed who laid siege to Hume Castle in Berwickshire around 1650. Still a ruin, although the walls have been repaired. A few years ago I was visiting Ely in Cambridge shire, where the historical home of Oliver Cromwell is situated. Today it is used as the Tourist Information Office. I went inside and asked the simple (like me, simple) question, was this indeed Oliver's house. Being given an affirmative reply, I then asked for compensation. A bewildered look from the receptioist, it was because he knocked my castle down was my reply. She didn't find it funny. Now as I am the Treasurer of the Hume Clan, I think I'll might have another go, in an official capacity. LOL. The reason I think my family came over from Ireland is that my 'ancestor in USA, claims that his ancestors records from the arrival there, states that he came from Ireland. Whether that was because the ship sailed last from there or that he was from there, we don't know. Did the Pilgrim fathers state that they were from Boston in England or from Ireland, if they had stopped there. Not sure if you are interested, but there is still a pub in Lincolnshire named 'The Pilgrims Last ' or something like that. It's been many years since I noticed it. Strange to think all this went off just a few miles from where my family lived. Anyway, many thanks for your very interesting replies, nice to know that you give out lots of free info, so much more than any other sites that I subscribe to. Thanks regards John Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <lmerle@comcast.net> To: <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > Hi John, my paternal great grandparents emigrated from Hetton le Hole > there in Durham. Surname is Mason and then a lot of other common surnames > for the region. They left Weardale around 1830 or so. I've had my father's > DNA tested too. We don't even have a 37 marker match. I am told by the > geneticists that that is not surprising. Apparently he was very old DNA. > For some more money I could confirm he is one of a group of Frisians who > arrived long before the Romans. > > Your HUMEs might have come to Ireland as part of the general Border Clan > Cleanup conducted by King James in the early 1600s. If they're in > Fermanagh, it's highly likely. > > Another possibility. Have you gone downtown lately in Durham. See big > statue?? That's the Marquis of Londonderry. He married locally and so > acquired estates. It's very probably he relocated people between the two. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Londonderry > > I'd check the early planters for men with Durham connections of any sort. > Or where ever it was yours were in the early 1700s, maybe Scotland. > > The Ulster Scots didn't fight Cromwell. The politics in Ireland are very > different from Scotland. Cromwell knew little about Ireland, excepting > that he wished everyone there was dead, so he didn't realize that either > and drew up plans to transport all the Scots far away from their annoying > cousins. However what they did was support him against their ever present > enemies the Irish and their Anglo Irish leaders. They were no more > interested in seeing a new government composed of Jacobite Catholic > English than they were Irish chiefs. So to them Cromwell looked like a > great fellow, a fellow Calvinist. Especially since he was good at killing > their enemies. So Cromwell abandoned his plans to transport them. Whether > he employed many in his army I do not know. A trip to Kew Gardens might > tell the story. > > Plus in Ireland high church English tended to persecute dissenting > Protestants while low churchmen persecuted Catholics. Cromwell was low > church and so they figured if he won they would be left to worship in > peace. > > Sorry about your castle, but he also stabled his army in Durham Cathedral. > I'm angry at him for that. Though after reading a lot of history books, it > does look like he was the good guy -- a moderate. Not one of those > extremist nasty English Congregationalists (I got Culmers from Kent: so > Blue Dick Culmer is probably a relative) or those Jacobites and their wild > ways <grin>. However in the end he was convenient to blame everything on > and so he has become a universal scapegoat. If only he was still with > us....we could send him off to Greece <grin>. > > Nigel Tranter's histories are full of stories about the Humes. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Tranter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john.hume" <john.hume@ntlworld.com> > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:43:12 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > > Hi all, > After such an entertaining week with all these postings from the > Scotch-Irish site, I'm ALMOST to afraid to ask the question. So many > thanks > to Imerle for spending her time in supplying so much information to so > many > different researchers. Whilst all the previous postings haven't revealed > anything regarding my own families, it has made it much more interesting > to > understand how the Scots and Irish lived their lives in the period > 1600-1700. It is so easy (to a point of course) to discover facts from > 1720 > or so forwards. > > So my problem, which I have aired a few times on various sites, is with > the > name HUME. > I've traced my immediate family back to 1720 without any problems at all. > When you watch the various TV programmes there are not many family trees > that seem to trace back to the 18th C. IN my case, about two days of > research and a trip to York. All was revealed. It has been nice to visit > all > those headstones - graves of all those ancestors who make up that direct > line. Many researchers complain that their surname alters with every > census > or parish record, I'm pleased to say that has NEVER occurred during y > research, aren't I the lucky one. > > I noticed that quite a few researchers have been informed to have their > DNA > done. I fully agree with that. Okay, £100 up front, with nothing to show > except expectations. Four years later down the line, I'm still waiting for > another 67 marker to match with me. But the three that have matched are > remarkable that they are all in the USA, and, that their surname is HUMES. > > That came as a shock, bearing in mind what I've just written. So back to > Durham (UK) and that very first marriage in 1721 for my Andrew Hume, could > that little squiggle on the end of the 'E' just be an 'S', I think so. So > how did my Irish family of HUMES arrive in the USA from around 1760 and my > line came from Durham in 1690. Therefore the question is did my Andrew's > family come over from Ireland to Scotland, maybe to fight Cromwell, (after > all, he did knock my Hume Castle down). Leaving some of the family alone > in > Ireland, they eventually made their way to the colonies. And Andrew being > left in England, as a Butcher from Durham, starting my line of about 3000 > descendents (that is the figure in my family tree at the moment) > > So have you any HUME or HUMES mentioned anywhere, I would be grateful, > thank > you for taking time to reading this lengthy message, but hopefully it > might > get more people to have their DNA taken > regards > john Hume > Nottingham > Home of Robin Hood > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lmerle@comcast.net> > To: "List" <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:47 PM > Subject: [S-I] Massacre on Rathlin Island > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Here is an important event for Glenns Scots to recall: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathlin_Island_Massacre >> >> Much more history of the Island here: >> http://www.ballycastle.free-online.co.uk/places/rathlin/rathlin.htm >> >> How about another battle? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carrickfergus_%281597%29 >> >> So you see why a mere 75 years or less afterwards the McDonnells were >> still a bit leery of the English. There were people alive who still >> remembered. >> >> History of the McDonnells: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Donald >> >> Scots clans are geographical. If your ancestors were in the parts of >> Antrim they controlled, you are a McDonnell. >> >> Linda Merle - mother a McDonnell, father a Campbell (sept Ure), which is >> why I have problems <grin>. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OOps. Prior message sent by mistake. Diane

On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:34 PM, sean roche wrote: > > hi LINDA, > > In an earlier email you mentioned BMD 1690 - 1800 records from TUAM, > Co. GALWAY. > > Could you please tell me what you know about these records. > > My fathers family were from this area - I have been able to track > records back to BMD 1864 in the parish of ABBEYKNOCKMOY. > > Prior to that I am hoping his families BMD records were recorded in > TUAM, which is where the official records were kept starting from > 1864. > > Thanks & Regards, > > SEAN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

hi LINDA, Thank you for that, I am most impressed by the amount of work you get through. It is much appreciated. REGARDS, SEAN > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:25:53 +0000 > From: lmerle@comcast.net > To: scotch-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [S-I] Lookup SHERRY & McKENNA > > Hi Sean, > > Neither is on these two lists. MacLysaght id's McKenna as a branch of the southern O'Neills in Monaghan, where they were lords of Truagh. > > Regarding, as he puts it, (Mac) Sherry -- an Ulster clan not to be confused with MacShera....right! It means son of Geoffry and was adopted as an Irish name by the Hodnett family of Cork. He refers us also to MacSharry. This is a Breffny sept mainly found in Leitrim and surroundings. In Roscommon it is also found as Foley, from the Irish searrach or foal. Sometimes a synonym for MacSherry. Then he says see O'Sharry. That was an Ulster sept distinct from MacSharry. That's all he has to say but the lads on the R1b1c7 list who have access to the old Irish annals and genealogies might know more. > > Some info found here googling: > http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/O%27Sharry > > Here you have a Hearth Money Roll with O'Sharrys and MacKennas and a host of other Irish names plus some Greers and Orrs, Hamilton, Farguson ... > http://www.failteromhat.com/hearth/errigal.htm > > So we can see that O'Sharry was used in Monaghan too by neighbors of McKennas. > > Go to his main page and search -- lots of Sherrys. > > Probably a few with these names show up as Cherry -- an English surname easily confused with Sherry. No Cherrys in the book either. > > I did a search here of church records: > http://www.rootsireland.ie/ > MacShera shows up right in Monaghan as well, so I don't know that it is geographically distinct from your MacSherries. Doesn't appear so. > > Linda Merle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sean roche" <seanroche1@hotmail.com> > To: "SCOTCH IRISH list" <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:34:07 AM > Subject: Re: [S-I] Lookup SHERRY & McKENNA > > > hi LINDA, > > If you are still doing lookups, my mothers grandmother was a McKENNA - which I guess is Irish. > > Her g-grandmother was a SHERRY - not sure about this one. > > THANKS & REGARDS, > > SEAN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Please lookup Chapman and McKoy or McKay. thanks Carla DeVille Diggin up bones in my sleep!

Hi Sean, Neither is on these two lists. MacLysaght id's McKenna as a branch of the southern O'Neills in Monaghan, where they were lords of Truagh. Regarding, as he puts it, (Mac) Sherry -- an Ulster clan not to be confused with MacShera....right! It means son of Geoffry and was adopted as an Irish name by the Hodnett family of Cork. He refers us also to MacSharry. This is a Breffny sept mainly found in Leitrim and surroundings. In Roscommon it is also found as Foley, from the Irish searrach or foal. Sometimes a synonym for MacSherry. Then he says see O'Sharry. That was an Ulster sept distinct from MacSharry. That's all he has to say but the lads on the R1b1c7 list who have access to the old Irish annals and genealogies might know more. Some info found here googling: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/O%27Sharry Here you have a Hearth Money Roll with O'Sharrys and MacKennas and a host of other Irish names plus some Greers and Orrs, Hamilton, Farguson ... http://www.failteromhat.com/hearth/errigal.htm So we can see that O'Sharry was used in Monaghan too by neighbors of McKennas. Go to his main page and search -- lots of Sherrys. Probably a few with these names show up as Cherry -- an English surname easily confused with Sherry. No Cherrys in the book either. I did a search here of church records: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ MacShera shows up right in Monaghan as well, so I don't know that it is geographically distinct from your MacSherries. Doesn't appear so. Linda Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean roche" <seanroche1@hotmail.com> To: "SCOTCH IRISH list" <scotch-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:34:07 AM Subject: Re: [S-I] Lookup SHERRY & McKENNA hi LINDA, If you are still doing lookups, my mothers grandmother was a McKENNA - which I guess is Irish. Her g-grandmother was a SHERRY - not sure about this one. THANKS & REGARDS, SEAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOTCH-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message