Hello to All, FamilyTreeDNA has surprised me a week early with some of my Dad's Y-DNA results. Knowing that my paternal line goes back to Dublin, Ireland in the 1600's, and before that in Scotland, and before that I believe from Ireland, I had expected to learn that his haplogroup would be R and possibly R1b1, but it's turned out to be "I". I have my Dad's FINLEY lineage traced back into medieval records, connecting we believe to: Findlaech McRuaidhri (FINLEY ) of Moray (Scotland) 980 to 1020, father of son - Macbeth Fionnladh b.c. 1005 Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland; son - MacBeatha McFinlay b. 1045 Cromarty, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland; d. 1093 Cromarty, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland; md. 1079 Bethoca McBrad daughter of Andrew McBrad son - Ruari (Rory) McFinlay b. 1080 Cromarty, Ross Cromarty, Scotland son - Fergus McFinlay b. 1145 Aberdeenshire, Scotland son - Eugenius McFinlay b./ 1184 Perthshire, Scotland son - Fearchar McFinlay b. 1210 son - Archibald Finlay b. 1248 Roushknot, Perthshire, Scotland son - William Finlay b. 1300 Perthshire, Scotland son - Andrew Finlay b. 1344 Perthshire, Scotland son - John Finlay b. 1390 Perthshire, Scotland son - John Finley b. 1418 Perthshire, Scotland son - John Findley b. 1450 Coupar Angus, Perthshire, Scotland son - Andrew Finley (Fyndlay) b.c. 1480/1483 of Perthshire, Scotland son - James Finley b. Sept. 15, 1530 Cuper Angus, Balchristie, Fife, Scotland; md. Elizabeth Warrender son - John Finley b. June 8, 1579 St. Andrews, Newburn Parish, Balchristie, Fife, Scotland; md. Sarah Craigie son - James Finley b. Sept. 9, 1631 Inchervie, St. Andrew’s, Fife, Scotland; md. Margaret Mackie son - Alexander Finley b. 1667 Inchervie, Fife, Scotland; md. Catherine Margaret Jennings son - James Finley b. Dec. 4, 1687 Dublin, Ireland; md. Elizabeth Patterson son - James Finley (1687/8-1753) who emigrated to America from Ireland on the good ship Eagle Wing and landed in New Castle, Del. on 22 May 1720. About half of James G G Grandchildren emigrated to America. James (1687/8-1753) first settled in Chester Co. PA son - John Finley Sr. b. Dec. 18, 1706 Dublin, Ireland; md. Chester Co., Pa. to Thankful Doak son - Thomas Finley b. Nov. 18, 1734 Chester, Del., Pa.; d. 1816 Montgomery Co, N.C.; md Mary Heavon ..... Family Tree DNA found no matches for the 25 marker test, and I'm waiting on the balance of the 37 markers. I have downloaded the Y-DNA results to Ysearch and my ID is JYWUE. Could some of you in the know please take a look? I would really appreciate any information these numbers might reveal. Am I correct in assuming that being in haplogroup "I" that is the same as saying my Dad is positive for M170 and/or P19 and/or M258? I ask that because that's what I find on the 2005 Y-Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree (although the print is tiny and hard to read). I had visited one or more web sites in the past that gave some possible descriptions for various markers, meaning M168, M89, M9 etc., but I can't seem to find my way back to these sites. Can anyone help me with that? When we talk haplogroup "I" what time period are we dealing with? When the results of the rest of the 37 markers come in, might it change the haplogroup? Thank you in advance for any and all help, in understanding what these numbers mean. Sincerely, Linda Fefferman Ysearch ID is JYWUE

Linda, Welcome to the crowd of surprised "I" haplogroup Scots-Irish. Without looking at your father's Y-DNA, if he's I1c he's of Danish Viking descent in all likelihood. This I grouping can actually be a blessing if most others are R1b (Celtic) as it narrows your field of search considerably as it did with my Johnston(e)s. Good hunting, Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: <FLFeff@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [SCOT-DNA] I was surprised to learn my Dad is Haplogroup "I" > > > Hello to All, > FamilyTreeDNA has surprised me a week early with some of my Dad's > Y-DNA > results. Knowing that my paternal line goes back to Dublin, Ireland in > the > 1600's, and before that in Scotland, and before that I believe from > Ireland, I > had expected to learn that his haplogroup would be R and possibly R1b1, > but > it's turned out to be "I". I have my Dad's FINLEY lineage traced back > into > medieval records, connecting we believe to: > Findlaech McRuaidhri (FINLEY ) of Moray (Scotland) 980 to 1020, father of > son - Macbeth Fionnladh b.c. 1005 Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland; > son - MacBeatha McFinlay b. 1045 Cromarty, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland; > d. > 1093 Cromarty, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland; md. 1079 Bethoca McBrad > daughter > of Andrew McBrad > son - Ruari (Rory) McFinlay b. 1080 Cromarty, Ross Cromarty, Scotland > son - Fergus McFinlay b. 1145 Aberdeenshire, Scotland > son - Eugenius McFinlay b./ 1184 Perthshire, Scotland > son - Fearchar McFinlay b. 1210 > son - Archibald Finlay b. 1248 Roushknot, Perthshire, Scotland > son - William Finlay b. 1300 Perthshire, Scotland > son - Andrew Finlay b. 1344 Perthshire, Scotland > son - John Finlay b. 1390 Perthshire, Scotland > son - John Finley b. 1418 Perthshire, Scotland > son - John Findley b. 1450 Coupar Angus, Perthshire, Scotland > son - Andrew Finley (Fyndlay) b.c. 1480/1483 of Perthshire, Scotland > son - James Finley b. Sept. 15, 1530 Cuper Angus, Balchristie, Fife, > Scotland; md. Elizabeth Warrender > son - John Finley b. June 8, 1579 St. Andrews, Newburn Parish, > Balchristie, > Fife, Scotland; md. Sarah Craigie > son - James Finley b. Sept. 9, 1631 Inchervie, St. Andrew’s, Fife, > Scotland; > md. Margaret Mackie > son - Alexander Finley b. 1667 Inchervie, Fife, Scotland; md. Catherine > Margaret Jennings > son - James Finley b. Dec. 4, 1687 Dublin, Ireland; md. Elizabeth > Patterson > son - James Finley (1687/8-1753) who emigrated to America from Ireland on > the good ship Eagle Wing and landed in New Castle, Del. on 22 May 1720. > About half of James G G Grandchildren emigrated to America. > James (1687/8-1753) first settled in Chester Co. PA > son - John Finley Sr. b. Dec. 18, 1706 Dublin, Ireland; md. Chester Co., > Pa. > to Thankful Doak > son - Thomas Finley b. Nov. 18, 1734 Chester, Del., Pa.; d. 1816 > Montgomery > Co, N.C.; md Mary Heavon ..... > > Family Tree DNA found no matches for the 25 marker test, and I'm waiting > on > the balance of the 37 markers. > I have downloaded the Y-DNA results to Ysearch and my ID is JYWUE. > Could some of you in the know please take a look? I would really > appreciate any > information these numbers might reveal. Am I correct in assuming that > being > in haplogroup "I" that is the same as saying my Dad is positive for M170 > and/or P19 and/or M258? I ask that because that's what I find on the > 2005 > Y-Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree (although the print is tiny and hard to > read). I > had visited one or more web sites in the past that gave some possible > descriptions for various markers, meaning M168, M89, M9 etc., but I can't > seem to > find my way back to these sites. Can anyone help me with that? When we > talk > haplogroup "I" what time period are we dealing with? When the results of > the > rest of the 37 markers come in, might it change the haplogroup? > Thank you in advance for any and all help, in understanding what these > numbers mean. > Sincerely, > Linda Fefferman > Ysearch ID is JYWUE > > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting > anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx