I hope no one minds my asking this question on the Scots forum, but since it was suggested that one poster join the E3b group study maybe it's o.k. My brother tested E3b on our non-Scot surname project, but we only did the 12-marker testing through FTDNA a few years ago. We thought we'd eventually add more markers if we matched anyone on our surname project. The project is now up to 72 participants and we are still the only E3b. My brother was finally going to go ahead and order more markers. Should he go ahead with adding markers or can they do the E3b SNP with just 12? By the way, our family lore says we were from Wales - undocumented but Grandpa said so...... Evelyn esleslie@bellsouth.net