12 marker tests are little more than a tease, but they are a starting point. That's how I got my first "shock" too. A SWAG guess could have your E3b ancestor coming to the Islands as a merchant, sailor or member of the Roman legions, as these are the most common hypotheses that I've read about. As for acquiring the name SMITH, the desire to blend into the local society is the strongest reason. Look at current media personalities, ie: Mike Wallace, James Garner, etc.. . Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Haplogroup E3b - SMITH > Andrew - the surname was SMITH, Robert born 25 Dec 1778 Co. Londonderry, > Northern Ireland [the 25th of Dec. was reported from his son, Robert Black > SMITH's descendant, supposedly the same birthday as the son] married > Martha EAKIN, dau. of John EAKIN & Margaret POSTEN/POSTEM, about 1815 same > area as Robert's birth. I don't seem to know exactly when Robert and his > family came to America. I have before me a transcription of the 1850 > census - Pennsylvania, Butler Co., Venango Twp. [dwelling 589 & family > 595] Robert SMITH age 59 b. Ireland, Martha age 57 b. Ireland, William age > 24 b. Ireland, Mary J. age 17 b. PA. and David age 14 b. PA. Martha died > about 1863 (tombstone difficult to read). On the 1880 census Robert is > with married dau. Mary Jane [EAKIN, by marriage]in Venango Co., PA. > Robert's age is 96 and occupation is weaver. Robert SMITH died 16 Mar > 1881 Scrubgrass Twp., Venango Co., PA. > If his birth year really was 1778, Robert was over 100 years old, which > was repeated by descendants of several of his children. Robert's sons > were named - John Eakin SMITH, Robert Black SMITH, William M. SMITH & > David G. SMITH. At least one descendant reported that Robert SMITH's > mother was - Ann MITCHELL. > A descendant of David G. SMITH has yDNA in the N.E. SMITH Project of > U.S.A., and so far matches with no one. A "y-search" showing genetic > distance of 1 [with only 12 markers]is a GOLDSMITH with an origin of > Warsaw, Poland. Our participant did 37 markers. > Any suggestions? > > Kay C. - contact person for the SMITH cousin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew and Inge > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:53 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Meaning of "Haplotype" and Haplogroup" > > > Hi Kay > > E3b is not the most common haplotype in Scotland, but it is also > certainly > not "foreign" in the sense that it appears to have been in Britain for a > very long time. I suspect it is more common in lowland areas than > highland > areas though. This would make sense because it seems to have entered > Europe > with the first farmers and potters from the Middle East. What is the > surname? > > Best Regards > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: N & K Chestnut [mailto:nkopportunity@gorge.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 2:03 AM > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Meaning of "Haplotype" and Haplogroup" > > > Sorry folks, my Scotch-Irishman's descendant came up with Haplogroup E3b. > Not what I expected either! > > Kay C. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew and Inge > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:57 AM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Meaning of "Haplotype" and Haplogroup" > > > Dear Richard > > The most common SNP-defined haplogroup in Scotland is R1b1c, which is a > branch of R1b1, which is a branch of R1b, etc. > > The second most common is I1a, which is of course a branch of I. > > So the only ununusual news is the K, which seems to be more common in > the > Mediterranean than in Britain. Nevertheless it is present there. I > believe > Thomas Jefferson was one. > > Best Regards > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: R. D. Reddick [mailto:rdreddick@charter.net] > Sent: Monday, 27 March 2006 9:30 PM > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Meaning of "Haplotype" and Haplogroup" > > > SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com: > > In studying our growing R320 DNA project results, notice two > "Haplotype" > categories seem dominant > for those of known Scot or Scot-Irish ancestry: "I" and "R1b1" > > There is also "R1b" and "R1b1c" represented and one new report > indicating > "K2." > > A couple of the project members have ordered the "SNP" analysis which > confirmed "I" and R1b1." > > Questions: > Are these the more common Haplos for Scotland? > What does the SNP analysis report really tell us about our origins? > What is the significance of matches to other surnames (most numerous > seem > to be several 37 markers exact matches to Bingham/Bigham/Bigum)? > > > The genealogy DNA firms represented are FTDNA and EA (EthnoAncestry). > > Our project page also includes those with Germanic origins: > > <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Reddick-r320/index.aspx>http://www.fa > mi > lytreedna.com/public/Reddick-r320/index.aspx > > Thanks, > Richard D. 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