Thanks, James. My ancestors came from West Norway to Orkney (possibly via Caithness) and then to Shetland. I would like to know whether other R1a groups came via Norway or are there several sections of R1as? Jim Halcrow Jeo@aol.com wrote: > Of the 20 Orrs who have posted Y-chromosome STR data on ysearch.org and > ybase.org, 18 are R1a, and rather closely related to oneanother. It would be > interesting to see how they fit in the background of other Scots R1a. > > James Orr, Chicago > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

This is something Ken Nordtvedt and Doug McDonald have been looking at. Certainly the most famous branch of Norse R1a in Scotland is that of the descendents of Somerled, fore-father of Clan Donald. Regards Andrew -----Original Message----- From: jimhalcrow [mailto:jimhalcrow@waitrose.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:17 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Re: R1a study Thanks, James. My ancestors came from West Norway to Orkney (possibly via Caithness) and then to Shetland. I would like to know whether other R1a groups came via Norway or are there several sections of R1as? Jim Halcrow Jeo@aol.com wrote: > Of the 20 Orrs who have posted Y-chromosome STR data on ysearch.org and > ybase.org, 18 are R1a, and rather closely related to oneanother. It would be > interesting to see how they fit in the background of other Scots R1a. > > James Orr, Chicago > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

The I Haplogroup indicates a Norwegian, Danish or Scandinavian heritage, there are several subdivisions of the I group. I1a is the most common. I am an I1a of either the Norse or Ultra Norse group. My Haplogroup is not the same as the other members in my surname project, which indicates either an adoption or out of wedlock birth. If you will google Ken Norveldt's website, there is a very good explanation of the I group and it's subdivisions. Jim Lovelace -----Original Message----- From: jimhalcrow [mailto:jimhalcrow@waitrose.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:17 AM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Re: R1a study Thanks, James. My ancestors came from West Norway to Orkney (possibly via Caithness) and then to Shetland. I would like to know whether other R1a groups came via Norway or are there several sections of R1as? Jim Halcrow Jeo@aol.com wrote: > Of the 20 Orrs who have posted Y-chromosome STR data on ysearch.org and > ybase.org, 18 are R1a, and rather closely related to oneanother. It would be > interesting to see how they fit in the background of other Scots R1a. > > James Orr, Chicago > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/295 - Release Date: 3/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/295 - Release Date: 3/28/2006

You'll have a little trouble googling the name as spelled... The correct spelling is Nordtveldt Haplogroup I Subclade Analysis <http://www.northwestanalysis.net/> by Ken Nordtvedt try it here... http://home.comcast.net/~libpjr1/haplogroupI.htm Regards John Armstrong I1a a Little SoWest of North corvettenutz@bellsouth.net wrote: >The I Haplogroup indicates a Norwegian, Danish or Scandinavian heritage, >there are several subdivisions of the I group. I1a is the most common. I >am an I1a of either the Norse or Ultra Norse group. > >My Haplogroup is not the same as the other members in my surname project, >which indicates either an adoption or out of wedlock birth. > >If you will google Ken Norveldt's website, there is a very good explanation >of the I group and it's subdivisions. > >Jim Lovelace > >-----Original Message----- >From: jimhalcrow [mailto:jimhalcrow@waitrose.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:17 AM >To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Re: R1a study > >Thanks, James. My ancestors came from West Norway to Orkney (possibly >via Caithness) and then to Shetland. I would like to know whether other >R1a groups came via Norway or are there several sections of R1as? > >Jim Halcrow > >Jeo@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Of the 20 Orrs who have posted Y-chromosome STR data on ysearch.org and >>ybase.org, 18 are R1a, and rather closely related to oneanother. It >> >> >would be > > >>interesting to see how they fit in the background of other Scots R1a. >> >>James Orr, Chicago >> >> >>==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >>AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: >> >> >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely >of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE >in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration >for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work >necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been >submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Interesting my WILLIAMS line in the U.S. is R1a; but most of the WILLIAMSes in that surname project are NOT R1a. So far I have no idea when my WILLIAMS immigrated, and we are assuming from Wales. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: jimhalcrow To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Re: R1a study Thanks, James. My ancestors came from West Norway to Orkney (possibly via Caithness) and then to Shetland. I would like to know whether other R1a groups came via Norway or are there several sections of R1as? Jim Halcrow Jeo@aol.com wrote: > Of the 20 Orrs who have posted Y-chromosome STR data on ysearch.org and > ybase.org, 18 are R1a, and rather closely related to oneanother. It would be > interesting to see how they fit in the background of other Scots R1a. > > James Orr, Chicago > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx