I forgot to add that I am R1b1c........ but still waiting 4 months for full 'DeepSNP-R1b(DSNP-R1b)' test results to see if I am R1b1c(1? to 9?):- this is what they say :- Your Haplogroup Your SNP Tests R1b1c M173+ M207+ M269+ M343+ P25+ M126- M153- M18- M222- M65- M73- SRY2627- Your haplogroup assignment represents a partial result from your Deep Clade test. One or more SNP tests failed to produce a clear result. These SNPs are being rerun. However all the SNPs that provided a result through the testing are displayed so that you can see what you are (+) and which SNPs you can rule out (-) at this time Ian Macdonnell