Where did you find the Shetland/orkney dna markers? my dad has many of the ones that you specified (i think all but one). .. unfortunately he hasnt matched ANY of the other Wallaces test. ugh. Actually he's matched closes to other names. even a 25/25 match. phooey. anyway just curious as to where the markers were listed ... --- Eric Olson <ericbear@pcweb.net> wrote: > List, > > I should have added that my CARREL / CARROLL are > Y-DNA haplogroup R1a. The spelling changed from > Carrel to Carroll about 1850 (in the U.S.A.). > > The first 12 marker panel results from FTDNA are: > 13, 25, 16, 11, 11, 15, 12, 12, 10, 14, 11, 31. > (DY8VJ) > > The bold italics are identical to the original 6 > marker values that Capelli et al found in Shetland > and Orkney, but nearly absent in the rest of the > British Isles, and apparently formed the basis of > his Norse Viking theory. On the other hand Dr. Faux > assures me there is no evidence of surname Carrel or > variant in Shetland or Orkney, but perhaps in > Scotland itself but that it is an Irish name. > > Eric Olson > CARROLL-DNA List Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project > Manager, > John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net > and he will > provide a private answer. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Crystal, http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/capelli-CB-03.pdf Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal" <mywebtree@yahoo.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Is CARREL Scots? > Where did you find the Shetland/orkney dna markers? > my dad has many of the ones that you specified (i > think all but one). .. unfortunately he hasnt matched > ANY of the other Wallaces test. ugh. Actually he's > matched closes to other names. even a 25/25 match. > phooey. anyway just curious as to where the markers > were listed ... > > > --- Eric Olson <ericbear@pcweb.net> wrote: > >> List, >> >> I should have added that my CARREL / CARROLL are >> Y-DNA haplogroup R1a. The spelling changed from >> Carrel to Carroll about 1850 (in the U.S.A.). >> >> The first 12 marker panel results from FTDNA are: >> 13, 25, 16, 11, 11, 15, 12, 12, 10, 14, 11, 31. >> (DY8VJ) >> >> The bold italics are identical to the original 6 >> marker values that Capelli et al found in Shetland >> and Orkney, but nearly absent in the rest of the >> British Isles, and apparently formed the basis of >> his Norse Viking theory. On the other hand Dr. Faux >> assures me there is no evidence of surname Carrel or >> variant in Shetland or Orkney, but perhaps in >> Scotland itself but that it is an Irish name. >> >> Eric Olson >> CARROLL-DNA List Admin. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >> Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project >> Manager, >> John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net >> and he will >> provide a private answer. >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search >> not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Crystal, See http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/capelli-CB-03.pdf Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal" <mywebtree@yahoo.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Is CARREL Scots? > Where did you find the Shetland/orkney dna markers? > my dad has many of the ones that you specified (i > think all but one). .. unfortunately he hasnt matched > ANY of the other Wallaces test. ugh. Actually he's > matched closes to other names. even a 25/25 match. > phooey. anyway just curious as to where the markers > were listed ... > > > --- Eric Olson <ericbear@pcweb.net> wrote: > >> List, >> >> I should have added that my CARREL / CARROLL are >> Y-DNA haplogroup R1a. The spelling changed from >> Carrel to Carroll about 1850 (in the U.S.A.). >> >> The first 12 marker panel results from FTDNA are: >> 13, 25, 16, 11, 11, 15, 12, 12, 10, 14, 11, 31. >> (DY8VJ) >> >> The bold italics are identical to the original 6 >> marker values that Capelli et al found in Shetland >> and Orkney, but nearly absent in the rest of the >> British Isles, and apparently formed the basis of >> his Norse Viking theory. On the other hand Dr. Faux >> assures me there is no evidence of surname Carrel or >> variant in Shetland or Orkney, but perhaps in >> Scotland itself but that it is an Irish name. >> >> Eric Olson >> CARROLL-DNA List Admin. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >> Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project >> Manager, >> John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net >> and he will >> provide a private answer. >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search >> not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > AOL users are advised to join the AOLers-Rootsweb list: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >