Russ -- Nice to hear from you. I believe we have a 11/12 match, or something like that, but I have to admit I haven't been looking at Coopers lately, instead concentrating on the Clark(e) surname which matches me 25/25 in a couple of cases. Kinda frustrating for a guy named Stewart, but any clue is better than nothing . . . anyway, have a great trip and keep me informed on Cooper and Scot-DNA developments. Mike Stewart > > From: Russ Cooper <rcoop7255@adelphia.net> > Date: 2005/12/19 Mon PM 09:41:23 PST > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Cooper DNA Project at FTDNA > > We have watched the increasing discourse of trying to find > Scottish locations with DNA and hopefully with genealogy paper trails. > Coopers we are not a Clan but an occupation beginning. However in FTDNA, > Coopers have 130 donors in a well run Cooper Project where results are > grouped by matches and include excellent paper trails in the USA also > reported. Getting across the Pond has been difficult. Our Coopers are > very probably Anglo-Scot-Irish, because of the Border Wars Dollarhide > speaks of in his books. Many Border people moved back and forth over the > border to avoid the many king's wars. Thus surname beginning locations > are more difficult to nail down. > Currently we have three Cooper lineages with good matches which > start with Haplogroup J [J is England and J1 is Scotland], followed by > Alleles of 12, 23, 14, 10, 15, etc. matches. We are a distinct group > with these marker matches appearing to originate in England. However two > of our lines begin in the USA in Salem, Washington Co., NY in a > Scotch/Scotch-Irish Presbyterian Covenanter ssettlement beginning in > 1764. Our family marriages are with Hamilton, Crawford, McFadden, > McFarland, McEachron, Creighton, Hunter, Hanna, Harsha, McGilvra, > Harrison, Wilson and we are connected with the Duguids and Coopers of > Aberdeenshire. Supposedly we came from Cootehill, Co. Cavan, N. IRE, but > this was a stopping off place probably only for about 10 to 20 years on > a Plantation, but from originally both Scotland and England. For my John > [1748-1803] and apparently his brother George [abt 1753-Abt 1825], they > could come from Aberdeenshire or maybe Northumberland, as can be noted > in the IGI. Then closely associated [living next to each other and > signing family documents for land, wills, etc.] is a Joseph Cooper > [1733-1819], who came from England to Ireland and then to Salem. For the > John and George lines we have definite DNA matches, but also with a > James from probably England to NJ. We are requesting a Joseph Cooper > descendant to donate a DNA sample to FTDNA soon, to help us find our > roots. These are focused DNA efforts. > But we are very interested in those of you, who we could > communicate with for info such as the Crawfords. My 4th GG Archi > [Harrison wife}Crawford came from Bruteshire and his father John [Wilson > wife] from Renfrewshire. It is this type of info we would like to > furnish to various surnames listed above to see if we can find some > paper trails that connect. In fact the Crawfords and the Duguids came to > Steuben Co., IN with the Coopers and have lived there together. > Can we have some correspondence, because this kind of > cooperation can usually payoff.? We placed our marker data in the SMGF > and only got 7 out of 19 marker matches, the highest and the related > paper trails were from the Ancestral File, which are very poor, > something known from long ago. > Unfortunately we leave tomorrow for Rochester and Boston for > Christmas Holidays, but will be back December 29th where in we will be > fully involved corresponding. > > Russ Cooper [216-397-1195 or cell phone 216-224-3572] > 2755 Derbyshire Road > Cleveland Heights, OH 44106 > Founder of NorthEast-Ohio - Computer-Aided-Genealogy ten years ago. Go > to our Website <NEOCAG.NET> > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project Manager, > John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net and he will > provide a private answer. > Want to join the Project? Visit: http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >