Hi John I contacted the SMGF and received a reply to this statement made recently-- QUOTE from recent postings Re Derek and Bruce You don't actually need to test commercially to learn your results first, you can find your results by searching on surname, then find your pedigree and then methodically going through the range of possible alleles to locate your results. It is painstaking, but possible. If you get your results from a commercial company, there is little reason to do SMGF except to get the 8 additional markers that FTDNA does not provide. SMGF does not provide anything that their commercial branches, Gene Tree and Relative Genetics or Heritage DNA provide, at least in their public database. ~~~~~~~~~~~ REPLY from SMGF Dear Frank, The comment is correct. However, you have to also consider that it might take up to 6-8 months before your genetic and genealogical data is finally added to our database (commercial laboratories will return your profile within 4-6 weeks). If you are not in a hurry and want to save few bucks, perhaps it is worth considering participating in our study. My suggestion is that you would participate in our study regardless of what other genetic testing choices you are going to make. It is free and you are giving others the opportunity to learn about their connections with your ancestors, while maintaining your privacy. Additionally, everyone participating in our study will receive a coupon for a discounted Ycs or mtDNA test through Relative Genetics ($95 for either a 26 Ycs markers or mtDNA HVR1). Sincerely, Ugo A. Perego, MS Operations and Sample Collections ~~~~~~~~~ Dear Derek & Bruce: I think there could be a small misunderstanding taking place here. Sorenson is building a huge database for future analysis ( and ties back to the genealogy information submitted) and is not providing any information to contributors. SMGF does not return any results to the contributors. See the posting by Frank of yesterday and see: http://smgf.org/participation.html Best Regards John A Hansen -----Original Message----- From: Derek Ham [mailto:djham@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:15 AM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit Bruce I did the same with SMGF (who required minimum of 5 generations paper trail backup), 3 months ago, and was wondering what was happening on the results. Thanks for giving me a ballpark estimate on timing. Even though I had undertaken the FTDNA 37-marker test I was interested in checking the results against an independent FREE analysis as well as adding one or two new markers. When you mention 'rest of the results', what do they include? Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. . Bruce Baird