I wouln't get too excited about who arose where and traveled to some place else, especially right now. This Y-DNA thing is really in its infancy. We can expect a lot of changes and revisions in the future (and probably not that far in the future either). We've got one really good thing going for us - Ken Nortdveldt - he's an excellent mathemetician/statistician. If anyone can figure out the I haplogroup, it's Ken. He is sharp! Right now my main interest in my haplogroup is as an identifing tool for contemporary and currently unknown "cousins". It's already done a great job of bringing several of us together. That doesn't mean that I'm not interested in migration movements. I am. It's just too soon to get too worked up about it, at least for me. Good hunting, Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitten" <whitten@amaonline.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > Hi, > When i wrote you that i was [1a i was tested M253 which is Viking-M > 307-P 30 than [1 -P 38 than I -M170-M258-P 19 Test - for the other > branches of I. I know that some went to France during the ice age. I was > supposed to be along the border of Sweden and Denmark and Iceland. Also > the other I went to Balkins and Sardinia . And some into Ukraian Valley. > I had never heard of each country having the on Vikings. > May be this help some. > Thanks > Jerry Whitten > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Burns" <rburns001@hotmail.com> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:20 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > > >> Hi all, >> >> I1a lineage in northern France! Would that be from Rolo the Viking who >> settled northern France after taking the area from those Franks and Gauls >> who lived there then? And this would be the Normandy area that the >> French Normans came from who took over England with the Norman invasion >> of England, who eventually put William of Normandy (a decendent of >> Charlimagne) on the English throne, starting the Plantaginate ruler line >> of England? >> >> Rich Burns >> >> >>>From: "Andrew and Inge" <andrew.en.inge@skynet.be> >>>Reply-To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >>>To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries >>>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 06:48:08 +0200 >>> >>>Hi Cliff >>> >>>I1c is of very different origin than most I1a, and certain types seem to >>>have been in Britain longer than anywhere else. >>> >>>For more notes by Ken see his webpage: >>>http://www.northwestanalysis.net/ >>> >>>Note that Ken now calls I1c "I1b2a". >>> >>>Best Regards >>>Andrew >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: CJMax [mailto:moments-in-time@charter.net] >>>Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 1:25 AM >>>To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries >>> >>> >>>Jerry, >>> >>>I had Dr. Ken Nordtvedt take a look at my 37-marker Y-DNA results last >>>year. >>>At that time FTDNA was having some issues assigning people in the "I" >>>haplogroup. I don't know if they've resolved their issues yet either. >>> >>>Ken said that my results were a classic I1c which he felt came from >>>Danish >>>Viking origins. I understand that he's the foremost researcher of this >>>haplogroup. >>> >>>I found the following on I1a: >>> >>>I1a >>>The I1a lineage likely has its roots in northern France. Today it is >>>found >>>most frequently within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest >>>Europe >>>and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is >>>found >>>at low frequencies. >>> >>> >>>Cliff. 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