Hi, I see you have a [1c whis is Danish Viking.how did you come to a Danish? My is [I1a do you know wih Viking nation they were from. Thanks Jerry Whitten ----- Original Message ----- From: "CJMax" <moments-in-time@charter.net> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > Ray, > > I've heard other comments about going beyond the 37-marker test - not that > worthwhile. > > At this point you're pretty much where I am. We've found a rather select > sub-group of the clan. Now we have to concentrate on finding a paper > trail and convincing others with the same surname to get their Y-DNA > tested. There's only so much that Y-DNA tests can do. > > In my case it put me in a rather small group of Johnston/es - I1c or > Danish Viking. There are approximately a half dozen of us who match up. > We're communicating via email - each helping the others as we try to > refine our research methods and directions. I put them on my Johnston > Family Newsletter (rather small, but family). In addition I've got a > PBase gallery for family photos: > http://www.pbase.com/cjmax/photo_restoration&page=all As we find > something, we all communicate PDQ. I'd suggest that you try the same. It > all adds up. It works. > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M" <fisemicr@yahoo.com> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:26 AM > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > > >> 25 markers showed I was probably in the Keppoch branch >> of the MacDonalds, 37 pretty much narrowed it to the >> Bohuntins. I have upgraded beyond that but that >> information so far has not yielded any insights. >> >> Ray MacDonald >> ------------- >> >> >> You're only getting there part way. The 37-marker test will give you a >> better idea of how recently you and the other McDonald have a common >> ancestor. It's a great start though. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> >> >> ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >> All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ >> Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting >> anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Per agreement with Rootsweb, there can be no marketing messsages > for any laboratory. No specific costs can be stated on list. > These questions can be responded to off list. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Jerry, I had Dr. Ken Nordtvedt take a look at my 37-marker Y-DNA results last year. At that time FTDNA was having some issues assigning people in the "I" haplogroup. I don't know if they've resolved their issues yet either. Ken said that my results were a classic I1c which he felt came from Danish Viking origins. I understand that he's the foremost researcher of this haplogroup. I found the following on I1a: I1a The I1a lineage likely has its roots in northern France. Today it is found most frequently within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found at low frequencies. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitten" <whitten@amaonline.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > Hi, > I see you have a [1c whis is Danish Viking.how did you come to a Danish? > My is [I1a do you know wih Viking nation they were from. > Thanks > Jerry Whitten > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Cliff I1c is of very different origin than most I1a, and certain types seem to have been in Britain longer than anywhere else. For more notes by Ken see his webpage: http://www.northwestanalysis.net/ Note that Ken now calls I1c "I1b2a". Best Regards Andrew -----Original Message----- From: CJMax [mailto:moments-in-time@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 1:25 AM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries Jerry, I had Dr. Ken Nordtvedt take a look at my 37-marker Y-DNA results last year. At that time FTDNA was having some issues assigning people in the "I" haplogroup. I don't know if they've resolved their issues yet either. Ken said that my results were a classic I1c which he felt came from Danish Viking origins. I understand that he's the foremost researcher of this haplogroup. I found the following on I1a: I1a The I1a lineage likely has its roots in northern France. Today it is found most frequently within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found at low frequencies. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitten" <whitten@amaonline.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > Hi, > I see you have a [1c whis is Danish Viking.how did you come to a Danish? > My is [I1a do you know wih Viking nation they were from. > Thanks > Jerry Whitten > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Those who are interested in how Danish Viking DNA became so widespread in Britain would probably be interested in the article in the 1911 Britannica article on the Danelagh (Danelaw) the name given to those districts in the north and north-east of England which were settled by Danes and other Scandinavian invaders during the period of the Viking invasions. A small portion of the article is quoted below. David Rorer DANELAGH." LoveToKnow 1911 Online Encyclopedia. C 2003, 2004 LoveToKnow. http://58.1911encyclopedia.org/D/DA/DANELAGH.htm The whole of the place nomenclature of Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire and Northern Northamptonshire is Scandinavian rather than native English, and in the remaining districts of the Danelagh a goodly proportion of Danish place-names may be found. Their influence is also evident in the dialects spoken in these districts to the present day. It is probable that until the end of the 10th century Scandinavian dialects were almost the sole language spoken in the district of the Danelagh, and when English triumphed, after an intermediate bilingual state, large numbers of words were adopted from the earlier Scandinavian speech > -----Original Message----- > From: CJMax [mailto:moments-in-time@charter.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:25 PM > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Fundamental queries > > Jerry, > > I had Dr. Ken Nordtvedt take a look at my 37-marker Y-DNA results last year. > At that time FTDNA was having some issues assigning people in the "I" > haplogroup. I don't know if they've resolved their issues yet either. > > Ken said that my results were a classic I1c which he felt came from Danish > Viking origins. I understand that he's the foremost researcher of this > haplogroup. > > I found the following on I1a: > > I1a > The I1a lineage likely has its roots in northern France. Today it is found > most frequently within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe > and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found > at low frequencies. > > > Cliff. Johnston