Basic answers: 1. Nearly all of it. 2. Everyone is related to "Adam" because Y DNA Adam is *defined* as the last common paternal ancestor of all men. More interesting is the path between this person and you. Regards Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Shankland(Train) [mailto:Shankland@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 1:56 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA I wonder if someone in this group could answer a generic question for me. What part of my DNA is the same as the Bushman? What I am confused about is the Geo project required a 12 marker test and somehow from these 12 markers they can see that I am related to "ADAM"? Thanks John ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Googd answer. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew and Inge [mailto:andrew.en.inge@skynet.be] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:27 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA Basic answers: 1. Nearly all of it. 2. Everyone is related to "Adam" because Y DNA Adam is *defined* as the last common paternal ancestor of all men. More interesting is the path between this person and you. Regards Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Shankland(Train) [mailto:Shankland@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 1:56 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA I wonder if someone in this group could answer a generic question for me. What part of my DNA is the same as the Bushman? What I am confused about is the Geo project required a 12 marker test and somehow from these 12 markers they can see that I am related to "ADAM"? Thanks John ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== Have questions about the lab? About privacy? About the process? Visit the FAQ page: http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html Want to join the project? Visit: http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I guess I am missing something. I understand the genetic concept of a DNA Adam but I don't understand how it relates to the test we are taking. I have a tester in my group with the same last name that is 11 markers of in 25. It is hard to imagine that a Bushman would be closer than that. Are we talking apples and oranges here? Can I get an example somewhere of what a Bushman's 25 marker test might look like? >FYI: >Our DNA is 99.9% identical to all other human beings on Earth. Therefore, >we only have a 0.1% difference in DNA between any of us, which accounts for Given the example above it seems that in this case it is 50% different. John

Dear John, The sad truth is that these tests are only looking at one gene out of your entire DNA structure. So, your Y-chromosome may only have 50% of the same markers as this other person, but when you include the rest of your DNA, you are more than 99.9% the same. Of topic, but I would love it if they could find a way to show if two people had any common ancestors and how far back they lived, instead of the only 2 we can look at right now, our maternal line of women, or our paternal line of men. Katie Rennie >From: "Shankland(Train)" <Shankland@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:46:05 -0400 > >I guess I am missing something. > >I understand the genetic concept of a DNA Adam but I don't understand how >it >relates to the test we are taking. > >I have a tester in my group with the same last name that is 11 markers of >in >25. It is hard to imagine that a Bushman would be closer than that. > >Are we talking apples and oranges here? > >Can I get an example somewhere of what a Bushman's 25 marker test might >look >like? > > >FYI: > >Our DNA is 99.9% identical to all other human beings on Earth. >Therefore, > >we only have a 0.1% difference in DNA between any of us, which accounts >for > > >Given the example above it seems that in this case it is 50% different. > >John > > > > > > >==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ >Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting >anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

John, We are only testing those stretches of DNA that show variation or differences. We have LONG sequences of DNA that are identical, but its the small variations that allow us to work out relationshships and ancestry, so those are the only pieces of DNA that we test. Within our DNA code of three billion "letters", only one in a million "letters" differ from the next person. Even compared to a person of Bushman ancestry, we still share 999,999 DNA "letters" out of 1,000,000. It's a difficult concept to grasp sometimes. Elena McComas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shankland(Train)" <Shankland@bellsouth.net> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA >I guess I am missing something. > > I understand the genetic concept of a DNA Adam but I don't understand how > it > relates to the test we are taking. > > I have a tester in my group with the same last name that is 11 markers of > in > 25. It is hard to imagine that a Bushman would be closer than that. > > Are we talking apples and oranges here? > > Can I get an example somewhere of what a Bushman's 25 marker test might > look > like? > >>FYI: >>Our DNA is 99.9% identical to all other human beings on Earth. Therefore, >>we only have a 0.1% difference in DNA between any of us, which accounts >>for > > > Given the example above it seems that in this case it is 50% different. > > John > > > > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting > anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hmmm, I can just imagine the uproar if and when they discover that there was someone else besides Adam... Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew and Inge" <andrew.en.inge@skynet.be> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA > Basic answers: > > 1. Nearly all of it. > > 2. Everyone is related to "Adam" because Y DNA Adam is *defined* as the > last > common paternal ancestor of all men. More interesting is the path between > this person and you. > > Regards > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shankland(Train) [mailto:Shankland@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 1:56 PM > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA > > > > > I wonder if someone in this group could answer a generic question for me. > > What part of my DNA is the same as the Bushman? > > What I am confused about is the Geo project required a 12 marker test and > somehow from these 12 markers they can see that I am related to "ADAM"? > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting > anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Have questions about the lab? About privacy? About the process? > Visit the FAQ page: > http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html > Want to join the project? Visit: > http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

But doesn't Chimpanzees have DNA that's 99% similar to that of humans? So does that make Adam a Chimpanzee, and do all primates descended from him? Couldn't it be that you need to go further back again to find Adam! This would suggest that it may have been rather unfair to cast him out of the garden of Eden, when he may not have had the cognitive thought process to handle the situation. I know it's a bit off subject, but it does seem that our DNA is quite similar between haplotypes, so much so that I am having problems confirming the home of my paternal Ancestor. The majority of surname matches strongly suggest Scotland , and I have close matches with Robertsons and Reids, but at the time of writing the divergence suggests about 700 years ago, and my family were in Gloucestershire in the 1530's! What confuses me is the growing number of continental surnames (although a number are American) whom I could not possibly share a common ancestor within the last 1000 years, unless through adoption and the like, and I think that's unlikely. This would seem to undermine the validity of my matches to variant surnames. My DNA markers between a Robertson and a Reid at 37 markers can be found here:- http://www.ystradmynach.org.uk/dna Does anybody else find themselves in the same situation? Best wishes, Wayne CJMax wrote: > Hmmm, I can just imagine the uproar if and when they discover that > there was someone else besides Adam... > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew and Inge" > <andrew.en.inge@skynet.be> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:26 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA > > >> Basic answers: >> >> 1. Nearly all of it. >> >> 2. Everyone is related to "Adam" because Y DNA Adam is *defined* as >> the last >> common paternal ancestor of all men. More interesting is the path >> between >> this person and you. >> >> Regards >> Andrew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shankland(Train) [mailto:Shankland@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 1:56 PM >> To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Deep DNA >> >> >> >> >> I wonder if someone in this group could answer a generic question for >> me. >> >> What part of my DNA is the same as the Bushman? >> >> What I am confused about is the Geo project required a 12 marker test >> and >> somehow from these 12 markers they can see that I am related to "ADAM"? >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >> All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ >> Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting >> anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >> Have questions about the lab? About privacy? About the process? >> Visit the FAQ page: >> http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html >> Want to join the project? Visit: >> http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Subscription and posting to the Scot-DNA list does not necessarily > indicate the poster is a participant in any DNA project. This list > is also for those interested in the subject, not just participating > in a project. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >